Toughie No 3712 by Elgar
Hints and Tips by crypticsue
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BD Rating – Toughie Difficulty ***** – Enjoyment *****
Normally solving and blogging an Elgar Toughie is followed by a rest in a darkened room. This morning the usual East Kent sea breeze has let us down and so, as it was 29° at 8 o’clock, I actually solved the crossword in a darkened room, meaning that once I’d scheduled the blog, I was already in the right place for the required lie down
The solutions to 7d and 10d are taken from the final stanza of a 1925 poem by TS Eliot
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Across
1a Request prepared French fields in kind (6,6)
PRETTY PLEASE The French word for prepared or ready and some meadows, the latter inserted into a kind or example
8a/9a Ballad Goddess welcomed by public, touring the Cockney Quarter? (4,3,7)
OVER THE RAINBOW Open to view or public goes round a Greek goddess followed by a preposition meaning encloses ‘routing’ and the part of London where Cockneys come from
9a See 8 Across
11a Farmhand perhaps left during hostilities (7)
WAGONER Left or departed inserted into (during) a period of hostilities

12a Sandwich once perhaps for Spooner: mangetout or sugar snap? (7)
SEAPORT Sandwich was once one of the five specially designated towns with harbours on the French-facing coast – the solution is obtained by describing the two varieties of vegetable

13a Newspaper illegally acquired material (5)
THEFT A way of referring to the Pink newspaper (3,2)
14a Rolled legume parts in each mixed dish (9)
ENCHILADA A type of pulse (legume) is reversed (rolled) and inserted into an anagram (mixed) of IN EACH
16a Relief reportedly more manageable on Trump’s watch, with nothing being overlooked (9)
ANALGESIA A homophone (reportedly) of more manageable goes on or after the American spelling of a type of watch with the traditional face and hands, without the O (nothing being overlooked)
19a Severe mess engulfing Republican (5)
HARSH A mess ‘engulfing’ the abbreviation for Republican
21a Knight moving into Scottish town with objectivist (3,4)
AYN RAND The first Scottish town starting with an A that came to mind, into which is inserted the chess abbreviation for knight, followed by a conjunction meaning with gives us an objectivist – I hadn’t heard of either her or objectivism but I know all about it now!

23a Flow stopper repeatedly left in time for elevenses? (7)
MILLDAM Two lots (repeatedly) of the abbreviation for left inserted into a possible time for elevenses (3,2)

24a/25a Unable to make progress in receipt of presents? (7,7)
GETTING NOWHERE In receipt of and two synonym for present
25a See 24 Across
26a Who’ll get you to Europe first off, then run schedule for return trip? (4,8)
TOUR OPERATOR TO (from the clue) eUROPE without the first letter and then a reversal (for return) of the cricket abbreviation for Run and a schedule
Down
1d Flat projection to be put in gym, I’m assured (7)
PLEDGEE A shelf-like flat projection inserted into an abbreviation for school games (gym)
2d Put out by metal during “therapy” (7)
EXTINCT The letter used to indicate by in multiplication sums or measurements inserted into (during) an abbreviated type of therapy. The BRB defines this as ‘put out’ but I thought I’d add an illustration of something that was put out

3d “Bad Feeling” – what Iago, Obadiah and Uriah called their band? (3,6)
THE CREEPS Shakespeare’s Iago (Othello), Anthony Trollope’s Obadiah Slope (Barchester Towers) and Dickens’ Uriah Heep (David Copperfield) were all known for their sycophancy and so might have given their band this name; an expression meaning to make someone feel uneasy
4d City goes without one top bar (5)
PARIS Hint amended 30 June: A synonym for goes or leaves goes outside (without) the Roman numeral for one, an informal name for a type of top being removed (bar) which is, as our first-time commenter Barry points out, the letter T without the bar across the top

5d Arab Federation’s variable airtime (7)
EMIRATI An anagram (variable) of AIRTIME
6d Sibs in Oz set up in private practice (3,4)
SUB ROSA A Latin term for privately or confidentially is obtained by reversing (set up) some abbreviated male siblings into the IVR Code for Australia
7d Beyond the Fringe failing to deliver report, … (3,4,1,4)
NOT WITH A BANG A phrase meaning beyond and an originally American name for hair cut square across the brow (fringe)
10d … ladies in group soften the chap up by sobbing? (4,1,7)
WITH A WHIMPER An abbreviated group of ladies, a verb meaning to soften or melt, the male pronoun (chap) and a synonym for by
15d Nat King, Jr listened to Loretta Lynn’s pop? (9)
COALMINER What Loretta Lynn’s father did for a living, celebrated in her autobiographical hit 1970’s song, could be a homophone (listened to) of a way of describing Nat King Junior
17d Dyer periodically manning a station (7)
ANNATTO The even (periodically) letters of mAnNiNg A sTaTiOn

18d Less inclined to work with good tradesman (7)
GLAZIER The abbreviation for good and less inclined to work
19d Buffoon cycling in Alison Moyet’s company? (7)
HALFWIT Cycle the first three letters of a phrase meaning in Alison Moyet’s company to the end of the word. It helps here if you know her nickname given to her at school when a teacher misheard her name and used as the title of her first studio album
20d One possibly browsing The Listener’s scanned first word on the letters page? (3,4)
RED DEER Homophones (the listener’s) of a synonym for scanned and the word used at the start of a letter

22d Approved, fully exposed (3,2)
DUG UP Old slang meaning approved and in total (fully)
That was hard enough!
Sitting in the garden under a tree as I solved, trying to keep cool whilst having my brain cooked from within.
After a fairly slow start, 7d fell in place. 10d was linked so those two helped me crack this one open. Although I didn’t know the TS Eliot connection, it’s a common enough expression.
The Latin in 6d was new to me as was the dyer in 17d and I wasn’t keen on PE being a synonym of gym in 1d.
Judy Garland’s song at 8&9a was eventually solved with the help of the third goddess I tried to fit in after Athena and Anthea.
Living in Kent helped with the Sandwich misdirection in 12a.
Loretta Lynn’s old man at 15d and Alf on her bike at 29d were my top two.
My thanks to Elgar and CS.
Village bbq day tomorrow, real ale, good food and excellent live music, it’s my favourite day of the year.
An 8.30am start to put the marquees up and get the village green ready. Should be done by 1pm, then home for a shower and back to start the bar off with a three hour shift from 4.
Overbearing heat mixed with thunderstorms are predicted.
Still, we’ll ‘ave a larf!
Elgar makes no allowances for the frazzling effect of the weather and provides a puzzle as tricky as ever. I did enjoy battling through it – thanks to him and CS,
The objectivist (21a) and the dyer (17d) were new to me – was I the only one to try to fit Dan into the latter?
I particularly enjoyed the linked 7d and 10d as well as 24/25a and (my favourite) 15d.
Phew what a scorcher. 3d had to wait for all the checkers as I was unfamiliar with the Trollope option, only the biblical one. Alison Moyet had to be Googled to make sense of 19d. Otherwise all accounted for.
Top clues for me were 24/25 [the 2 presents -tho I think I’ve seen it before] 10d [soften the chap up] with the Gold Star going to Nat King Jr at 15d [didn’t even need to Google Loretta and “pop” was the crowning glory].
Thanks to Elgar and CSue.
But for crypticsue’s preamble I would have got nowhere other than Loretta Lynn’s pop and 16a relief. The pointer to T S Eliot gave me 7d & 10d, from which I got on a bit of a roll. I actually knew the dyer having done a bit of home cheese making; it gives the red colour to Leicester and Double Gloucester for example. Had to Google the objectivist and Alison Moyet, but in the end needed CS to hint 3d, 6d and 22d and the parsing for 3 others. Can’t say I have heard anyone use 1a as a request. Otherwise quite pleased with my best attempt at an Elgar.
MTT Elgar and CS.
5*/4*
Evening – u completed half of this earlier today before starting my first day of a three day dressmaking course. Then did what I could this evening before coming here to finish!
Typical Elgar puzzle too clever for me – one day I may solve unaided!!
21a, 22a, 6d,19dand 22d I struggled with and would never have got without help.
Although I am pleased to get further than usual on an Elgar I had too many correct guesses rather than teased out solutions to make it a satisfying solve.
I did like 8/9 across once I stopped trying to make Athena fit as the goddess
Thanks all
I don’t want the puzzle made easier I just want my brain too be smarter!
Still able to finish an Elgar in spite of advancing years and in time to comment for a change. Much enjoyed! Thanks to each.
Elgar at his very best, I thought. Properly very tough but not diabolical. The dyer was new to me, but fairly clued, once I got the confidence to trust the clear instruction – not always easy with Elgar. We’ve had the objectivist before a while back, not that I could bring her to mind. I would have found it easier if I hadn’t made a Rookie Error with the relative “gimme” 5d and forgot to double check the anagram. 3d, 7d and the very excellent 19d occupy my podium places.
Thanks to Elgar, and Cryptic Sue, as ever. I don’t know how you do it given the deadlines. Chapeau!
Did this in a couple of sittings, and requiring a letter reveal on the NHO 1d, but by far my quickest ever Elgar “solve”. That said, thanks to CS for the parising (sic) of 4d !
First time commenting on here, though have visited many times. Thanks Cryptic Sue and everyone else who contributes. I found that very hard so was pleased to see the 5/5 rating, the hints were very useful to confirm parsing on a couple of answers. 24a/25a and 19d were my favourites. On 4d, I parsed “without one top bar” as meaning to remove the bar across the letter T to get the letter I.
Welcome to the blog
Welcome, Barry to the merry throng!
Commenting very late indeed but wanted to say what an excellent and devilishly twisty challenge this was. Delighted to get to the end sans aids or tips.
Many thanks to Elgar and to CS