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Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28933

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BD Rating – Difficulty ***Enjoyment ***

Good morning from South Staffs. The Christmas guests have departed, and we have settled down to finishing off the Christmas food.

The Telegraph Puzzles site didn’t publish this week’s Giovanni on time at midnight, and it still hadn’t appeared after I’d done the Quick crossword, so I gave up and went to bed, then got up earlier than usual to tackle this one. I’m not really a morning person, which may explain why I found it to be on the tricky side.

In the hints below, the definitions are underlined. The answers are hidden under the ANSWER buttons, so don’t click if you don’t want to see them.

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8a           One expressing sorrow afterwards with soldiers getting buried (8)
LAMENTER – Another word for ‘afterwards’ wrapped around some soldiers.

9a           Rushed party with madame initially unmethodical (6)
RANDOM – Put together another word for ‘rushed’, one of the usual crossword parties, and the first letter of Madame.

10a         Enjoy what archaeologists do (3)
DIG – Double definition: some rather elderly slang for ‘enjoy’ or ‘appreciate’; or literally what archaeologists do in an excavation.

11a         Princess good in Indian garment? Take a different view (8)
DISAGREE – The short form of the name of the late Princess of Wales, followed by an item of dress worn by Indian women with Good inserted.

12a         Chaps needing to take off remain troubled (6)
AIRMEN – Anagram (troubled) of REMAIN.

ARVE Error: need id and provider

13a         Local jerk’s a daft drunk — will he do any job? (4-2-3-6)

15a         New student and father somewhere in Surrey (7)
FRESHER – The abbreviated form of the title ‘father’ given to Catholic priests, followed by a town in Surrey, producing a term for a first-year student.

18a         Animal, look, chewing length of cloth (7)
GAZELLE – An old cloth measure equal to 1¼ yards, inserted into a steady stare.

Image result for gazelle

21a         Convey obvious message or depart in silence? (2,7,6)
GO WITHOUT SAYING – A figurative expression for a statement of the obvious, which could literally be a description of departing without making a statement.

24a         Walked endlessly in plain territory (6)
STEPPE – Remove the final letter (endlessly) from another word for ‘walked’ to get a Russian plain.

Image result for steppe

25a         Blessed and married after salutation (8)
HALLOWED – A word of greeting followed by ‘married’.

26a         Tool with chrome, odd bits flaking off (3)
HOE – Remove the odd-numbered letters from cHrOmE.

27a         Course taken by some in parliament re-elected (6)
ENTRÉE – This course of a meal is hidden in the clue.

28a         Warbled with a lurch, not finishing drink (8)
SANGAREE – To get this West Indian drink, put together another word for ‘warbled’, A (from the clue), and ‘lurch’ or ‘stagger’ with the final letter removed.

Image result for sangaree drink


1d           Any number hugged by show girl in seaside area (6)
MARINA – A girl found in West Side Story or The Sound of Music, wrapped around the algebraic symbol for ‘any number’. Or, of course, Howard’s would-be lover from Last of the summer Wine

Image result for howard marina last summer wine

2d           Make a new assessment of what someone says? (6)
REMARK – Double definition, the first being to reassess an examination paper.

3d           Bloomer is what wise men became aware of (4,2,9)
STAR OF BETHLEHEM – A flower otherwise known as Ornithogalum umbellatum is what the biblical wise men from the East followed to seek the infant Jesus.

Image result for star of bethlehem flower

4d           Soldier in a mess? No (7)
ORDERLY – A post or duty which may be held by a soldier, which is literally the opposite of ‘in a mess’.

5d           During this action one may have a change of heart (5,10)
ORGAN TRANSPLANT – … or liver, or kidney …

6d           Extra money in box about to be hidden (8)
INCREASE – IN (from the clue) followed by a box or container wrapped around the Latin expression for ‘about’ or ‘concerning’.

7d           Herald rushed, went down for funny-sounding Oxford don (8)
FORETELL – The funny-sounding don is Dr Spooner. Take synonyms for ‘rushed’ and ‘went down’, then treat them as Dr Spooner might have done.

14d         Line given audibly? (3)
CUE – A homophone (given audibly) for a line of people, or a line of dialogue in a play which prompts the entrance of an actor.

16d         Sitting like a bird, right over egg — smart! (8)
ROOSTING – Put together Right, Over, an egg-shaped letter, and a verb for ‘smart’ or ‘hurt’.

17d         Captains bring fish aboard ship (8)
SKIPPERS – Some smoked fish with the usual abbreviation for a steamship wrapped around it.

19d         Floral decoration that is left upside down (3)
LEI – Put together the Latin abbreviation for ‘that is’ and Left, then reverse the result to get a Hawaiian garland.

Image result for lei

20d         Lady succeeded ultimately, having superior game (7)
DUCHESS – Put together the final letter of succeedeD, the letter indicating ‘superior or ‘upper-class’, and a game played on a board with 64 squares.

22d         Small farmer in the old Arab territory (6)
YEOMAN – An old way of printing ‘the’ followed by one of the Gulf States.

23d         Relations terribly insecure, having abandoned biblical city (6)
NIECES – Remove the biblical Chaldean city from INSEC(ur)E, then anagram (terribly) the rest.

That’s me done for 2018. See you all next year.

The Quick Crossword pun BERTHED + HAZE = BIRTHDAYS

42 comments on “DT 28933

  1. No obscure words today ( though I had not heard of the West Indian drink). Reasonably straightforward and fairly enjoyable, Thank you to Deep T for your early shift and to Giovanni for the mental exercise.

  2. Another good puzzle from G. A reasonable challenge, fine clues and an enjoyable solve. Fav: 28a, I didn’t know this drink but it could be parsed from the clever wordplay. 3* / 4*

    PS. A big year-end thank you to BD, all the setters, reviewers and anybody else who helps behind the scenes to keep this excellent blog running smoothly.

    1. An indirect Spoonerism? I’d call it a Spooner clue with a cryptic indicator, which doesn’t sound so bad somehow. But you may have a point…

  3. A typical Giovanni puzzle. Fairly clued and therefore solveable. Thanks to Mr Manley for that. Thanks also to DT for the early review. I did like the smoked fish at 17d. always nice with a dab of butter. I bet the drink at 28across would go down well with it too.

  4. The DT site threw a wobbly and submitted my puzzle with the doctor spooner clue to go. I still don’t understand the answer and dislike spooner clues anyway.
    21a does not work for me either, the first word should be ‘goes’.
    Sorry not a fan of Friday’s crossword generally.
    Thanks all.

    1. If you submit the puzzle too many times to check for errors as I have been prone to do, it loses its temper after about the 6th submission and cuts off the fun.

      I’m really not a huge fan of the new site (or the old one for that matter). I used to have a very neat little app that had an excellent interface but I assume that they were threatened with legal action if they continued to allow access to the Telegraph and Indy.

      1. Yes, thanks. I think that’s what happened, caused by the internet in Zizzi’s in Banstead going down

    2. HIYD, 7d. Spoonerisms are merely about swapping letters and rhyming syllables. “Rushed” = TORE and “went down” = FELL, giving TORE+FELL. Swap the initial letters round and you get: FORE+TELL or FORETELL. That’s not so hard to understand, is it?

  5. It was at the trickier end of Giovanni’s Friday spectrum, but I enjoyed myself. I particularly liked the ‘reverse’ Spoonerism clue

    Thanks and Happy New Year to both DT and Giovanni.

    PS The annual Micawber end of year summary Toughie is, as usual, a thing of great joy

    1. I agree with CS that Micawber’s end-of-year toughie, where each clue is a topical reference to 2018, is loads of fun.

      AND it is no harder than a back-pager, so I hope lots of people will try it and enjoy it.

  6. Quite enjoyable with some head scratching in the NE, Spoonerisms of any description are my bête noire, which resulted in completion at a fast gallop – ***/***.

    Like neveracrossword, I had not heard of 28a, so I did have to ‘BRB’ it after assembling the Lego pieces.

    Candidates for favourites – 21a, 3d and 5d – too close to call.

    Thanks to DG and DT.

  7. Going great guns until utterly stumped by the indirect spoonerism at 7d. Not my favourite type of clue. Otherwise a very nuce test.

  8. I don’t usually do Friday’s but I gave this a go in order to get my confidence back after yesterday’s cranial battering! In that respect it worked as I completed it but found it a little uninspiring. I’ll give 17d COTD.
    Although I understand it I’m not a fan of 7d
    Thanks to setter and DT

  9. Fairly gentle for the most part but 7d was not my cup of tea either – strange how it polarises opinion (if one for & 5 against is “polarised”).
    Presumably Merusa with her West Indies connection is familiar with 28a.
    It 21a but thanks to Giovanni for the work out & DT for hints – needed to parse 7d.

  10. Like others, didn’t care for 7d and had never heard of 28a – otherwise found this very (too?) straightforward…..still, a pleasant romp after yesterday’s struggle!

  11. This was, for me, one of those crosswords where I had to take a leap of faith and bung a few in, then parse afterwards. 7d was a good example of this, and, despite loathing Spoonerisms with a passion, I thoroughly enjoyed this unusual take on the clue-type. Overall this was a good workout and fun to solve.

    Many thanks to The Don for the tussle and to DT.

  12. Didn’t do too well on that one.
    Failed on 18a and 7d. Had Camello for the former which made no sense at all.
    Nice to see the princess in 11a.
    Thanks to the Don and to DT for the help.

    1. I had Camello too, which is an animal
      Camel (cloth for coat) and Lo for Look
      Never heard of Ell … nor Sangaree
      Thumbs down for the Spooner clue for me too!

  13. Compliments of the Season to setters, solvers and bloggers. An enjoyable puzzle to round off the week. Thanks to G and DT. 🦇

  14. My last in was 2d which I did nor parse and thought that it was not a ‘back page’ clue-even took a while after reading DT,s hint !.
    Apart from this it was a **/** for me,
    Today,’s puzzle lacked a spark for some reason-could be me.

  15. Yes, I too chose a camel as the animal in 18a, and the Spoonerism escaped me,although I did happen to guess the answer correctly. Most enjoyable

    1. Welcome to the blog Brian

      We have a regular commenter who posts as Brian, so please use a different alias next time.

      [I have now changed your alias to Brian T.]

  16. An earlier post has disappeared so I’ll keep this brief. Very straightforward for a Giovanni I felt greatly aided by the four long answers three of which were straight in. After the write ins with the checkers from the long ones was left with half a dozen. Last ones in 6 1 and 7d in that order. Could not parse the Spoonerism. Thanks to Giovanni Deep T and Bug D. Favourite 22d despite being misdirected for some time by a country beginning with Y.

  17. Today’s puzzle didn’t sparkle for me. I completed it ok with 21a as favourte but I didn’t have the usual feeling of satisfaction. Mark you, that is probably just me with the post Christmas blues so maybe no attention should be paid!
    Thanks to Giovanni, and to DT for the review.

  18. Tricky, yes, but getting the long ones on first scan helped a lot.
    I never did get 6d, 7d or 18a, needed the hints for those. I’m in the dislike of spoonerisms camp.
    I rather liked 20d, but there were many more to like.
    Thanks Giovanni and Deep Threat for the entertainment, rounding out the week.

  19. I invariably forget that alternative spelling of the Indian garment, didn’t know the 28a drink and thought ‘funny-sounding Oxford don’ was a bit of a stretch.

    I did like the succinct 20d so that get my vote for today.

    Thanks to DG and to DT for burning the candle at both ends – a happy New Year to you and hope to see you again in January.

  20. Our favourite was certainly 7d. We got the answer, basically from definition and checkers, and moved on to other clues. Came back to it again at the end of the solve and a real penny drop moment when we twigged who the Oxford don was. Good fun and a pleasure to solve.
    Thanks Giovanni and DT.

  21. ***/***. Not an easy solve for me as the NW corner was last to yield which in hindsight makes me wonder why. Thanks to Giovanni and DT for the review.

  22. Nice crossword agree with ***/*** 😃 Favourites were 16 & 21 across 😉 must confess to putting “increate” for 6d but now see the error of my ways 😬 Big thanks to DT and to Giovanni

  23. First look at the grid made me think it was bigger than usual and/or had more than the normal number of white than black squares . However , finished at a steady rate this morning with 17A giving the biggest smile and 28A last in as trying to fit in a version of sangria into the answer .
    Will read the other responses now but do not expect any issues .
    Thanks to everyone.

  24. Not as gentle as last week’s Giovanni. Thanks to Deep Threat for getting up early on our behalf, much appreciated. I agree with Hoofit that 21a should start with “Goes” not “Go”, never heard it said any other way. Am also in the non Spooner fan club, so 7d went down like a lead balloon. Didn’t know the drink in 28a. So, all in all, I did not do too well. Fingers crossed for tomorrow.

    1. The ‘funny-sounding Oxford don’ was a new one on me and I assume is a crossword convention to indicate a spoonerism. So one to remember. That would have give me more of a chance.

  25. Thoroughly enjoyed,especially having abandoned yesterday’s! Just what was needed at the end of a long tiring week!
    Thanks to all.

  26. Very enjoyable and needed hints for 11a, due to the wrong spelling and missing the obvious answer, similarly 6d due to fixated on a crate and 7d looking for some non existent don and never thought it was the venerable Spoctor. No particular favourite but all enjoyable. I do like Giovanni’s style which I find very clear while challenging as well. Thanks and seasonal greetings to Giovanni, DT, BD and all.

  27. 7d was a double whammy for me because I found foretell and forefeel as possible answers. Then when I checked the blog I couldn’t figure out the spoonerism 🙂

  28. 3*/3*…..
    liked 13A (local jerk’s a daft drunk — will he do any job?)
    and 7D (herald rushed, went down for funny-sounding Oxford don)..enrol me to the Spooner fan club.

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