DT 27111 – Big Dave's Crossword Blog
View closed comments 

DT 27111

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27111

Hints and tips by Deep Threat

+ – + – + – + – + – + – + – +

BD Rating – Difficulty */**Enjoyment ***

Good morning from South Staffs where it’s cold, grey and drizzly.  Roll on Spring!

A straightforward puzzle today, and it’s a pangram.

In the hints below definitions are underlined.

Please leave a comment telling us what you thought.  You can also add your assessment by selecting from one to five stars at the bottom of the post.



5a           US soldiers meeting pensioner to get dope (3,4)
{ JOE SOAP } The plural of the generic name for US soldiers – GI __, like Tommy Atkins for British soldiers – is followed by the abbreviation for someone receiving a state pension.  According to the BRB, the answer is RAF rhyming slang.

7a           In the morning, around ten after ten, in truth (5)
{ AXIOM } Put the abbreviation for morning around the Roman and Arabic forms of ‘ten’.

9a           An evergreen’s required? Try elm, incorrectly (6)
{ MYRTLE } Anagram (incorrectly) of TRY ELM.

10a         Canned beer and cigs for cold, unemotional types (8)
{ ICEBERGS } Anagram (canned) of BEER and CIGS.

11a         Stop one about a line in magazine (10)
{ PERIODICAL } A charade of the formal term for a full stop, the Roman numeral for one, the Latin abbreviation for about, A (from the clue) and Line.

13a         Roguish (paper version Shrewd) tramp, not married (4)
{ ARCH } Remove the initial M(arried) from a verb meaning to tramp. This is the online version of the clue. The paper has ‘shrewd’ instead of ‘roguish’. Both are in the BRB as definitions of the answer.

14a         Barrister from New York borough getting Eastern consul off (6,7)
{ QUEEN’S COUNSEL } One of the New York boroughs followed by an anagram (off) of Eastern and CONSUL. I notice that the apostrophe is not shown in the enumeration.  Has that brief experiment come to an end?

16a         Device used for raising a flag (4)
{ JACK } Double definition.

17a         Powerful men meet leaving station (5,5)
{ KINGS CROSS } The top men in monarchies followed by another word for meet.

19a         Rings about ending in ‘Esther’ and a trio performing in ‘Deborah’, say (8)
{ ORATORIO } Take the last letter of EstheR and an anagram (performing) of A TRIO, then put an O at each end (rings about) to produce the musical work of which Deborah by Handel is an example.

ARVE Error: need id and provider

20a         Chatter with minister, leader in temple (6)
{ RABBIT } A Jewish minister of religion followed by the first letter of Temple.

22a         Weapon that gives clean wound (5)
{ LANCE } Double definition, the second being what a doctor might do to a boil, for example. Or, as Gazza points out, an anagram (wound, as in past tense of wind) of CLEAN.

23a         Male not in to send out shipment (7)
{ TRANSIT } Take the M out of a verb meaning to send out, as of a radio signal.


1d           Relish visiting Devizes today (4)
{ ZEST } Hidden (visiting) in the clue.

2d           Greek god mysteriously poisoned (8)
{ POSEIDON } Anagram (mysteriously) of POISONED.

3d           Ring about last letters from brave English nurse (6)
{ CAVELL } A verb meaning to ring wrapped around the last two letters of brave to give the surname of Edith, who was executed by the Germans in 1915.

4d           Arsonist springing out of tree, one wearing rubber (4-6)
{ FIRE-RAISER } An evergreen tree followed by the Roman numeral for one inside (wearing) the device used for rubbing out pencil marks.

5d           Novelist’s delight over church (5)
{ JOYCE } An Irish novelist is made up of a word for delight followed by (over, in a Down clue) the abbreviation for the Church of England.

6d           Albert, for example, arranged prison concert (6,7)
{ PRINCE CONSORT } An anagram (arranged) of PRISON CONCERT gives us Queen Victoria’s husband.

8d           Charming wise men, mostly quiet (7)
{ MAGICAL } The wise men from the Christmas story followed by a noun or adjective meaning ‘quiet’ with its last letter removed (mostly).

12d         Takes off, engaged in topping sport (3-7)
{ ICE-SKATING } An anagram (off) of TAKES inside (engaged in) the sort of topping crypticsue might put on one of her cakes.

14d         Question ruler abroad about a row (7)
{ QUARREL } An abbreviation for Question followed by an anagram (abroad) of RULER wrapped around A (from the clue).

15d         Ahead, master swimming against the current (8)
{ UPSTREAM } The term one might use if ahead in a game, followed by an anagram (swimming) of MASTER.

17d         Essential part of service in lower part of ship (6)
{ KERNEL } The abbreviation for one of the armed Services inside the part of a ship which extends along its bottom and supports the frame.

18d         Bird  flying (5)
{ SWIFT } Double definition.

21d         Try hard to support graduates (4)
{ BASH } Holders of a first degree in an Arts subject followed by Hard to give an informal term for a try.

The Quick Crossword pun { TRACK }{ SHUN } = { TRACTION }

80 comments on “DT 27111

  1. */*** for me today. I found this pangram easy but enjoyable, finishing in ***** minutes without stopping – which is a record for me by a long way.

    Thanks very much to the setter and to Deep Threat for the review.

  2. Was running very late yesterday, sorry I missed you all.

    Interesting puzzle today, by the time I’d finished I had a feeling it had a very American feel, but looking back I can see it didn’t really, may have just been that the last few in had an Americanish feel.

    Some very clever clue today and nice surface readings. I thought the word ‘leaving’ a tad superfluous in 17A, but a nice clue all the same also a very nice mis-direction in 20A.

    Miserable day here in Brizzle, cold and grey. Roll on summer (looking forward to both days)

  3. A lot easier than yesterday’s. 13a reads ‘roguish’ rather than ‘shrewd’ on the iPad. Thanks to DT and setter.

    1. Thanks for alerting me to the difference between the paper and the online versions. I’ve amended the hint.

  4. Morning DT thanks for the blog/hints, didn’t need them today though, this one seemed much more Rufusish than yesterdays, really enjoyed, I realised it was a pangram early on, this is a puzzle that just goes to show just because it’s a bit easier ( IMHO) it doesn’t mean it’s not enjoyable, lots of nice clues with mostly good readings, fav for me 17a, gray skies today but calm and dry in West Wales, now that I’ve finished early I suppose I’d better get on with some housework!!!

  5. Nice puzzle if a little too easy. If I had spelled 14ac correctly 4d would have fallen into place more quickly. I also managed to get half of the toughie done without too much trouble before Mrs C-S found work to be done. Heigh Ho.

  6. As for Rabbit Dave, finished in what must be my fastest ever time not even close to lights out last night. No stand out favourite clues, but still very enjoyable – thanks to the setter. I might have to look at the Toughie today (is there one?) to fill in my time at the office.

    1. The Beam Toughie is well worth a go. I’d say it’s at the milder end of his difficulty range, unless it’s just me getting on his wavelength from blogging a few of his Thursday back-pagers .

  7. A Beam Toughie and Paul in the Grauniad – my cup runneth over this morning! :grin:

    Seriously though, both are accessible puzzles and well worth a look, if you like a laugh or two along with your crosswords.

    I’ll have a go at this one over lunch as usual, and finish off yesterday’s Rufus. See y’all later.

  8. At first thought this was going to be difficult, but once under way seemed to progress quickly. Very enjoyable, thank you setter and thanks to DT for your review

  9. Although Deep Threat’s explanation for 22a as a double definition works fine, I did wonder whether the second bit was meant to be an anagram.

    1. I saw it as an anagram, but then noticed the double definition – which I took to mean that the setter was being especially kind to us today.

    2. Thanks, Gazza. I think that’s a better explanation – though it does add to the overload of anagrams in today’s puzzle.

    3. Might as well start with 22a, i had the first letter l and simply thought that it was an anagram of clean and the ‘wound ‘ being to ‘damage’ or Mix up ‘ the letters, Anyway about a **/***. lots of amusing clues and a light hearted sort of puzzle-never spot pangrams-failed again.

  10. Very straightforward today, and no hints needed. Thanks, DT, for your review. The pics are a pleasure, as always. Working my ways…slowly… through the Toughie. Bottom left quadrant to go.

  11. Held up slightly by having able (amble less the m) for 13a. Apart from that a quick finish – most unusual for me.

  12. Lovely crossword. The satisfaction of finishing without help combined with great enjoyment. Have all the compilers got a secret pledge to include the answer to 21d as often as they can? It seems to have appeared – under different clues – quite frequently over recent weeks!

  13. Got held up by 5A but eventualy the penny dropped and managed to finish without help.A nice enjoyable puzzle.

  14. A doctor who took a ‘lance ‘ to a patient would find himself before the GMC. 22a. I suppose the verb ‘lance’ would do.

    1. Chambers gives ‘lance’ as a verb meaning, inter alia ‘to open or incise with a lancet in order to allow drainage’. Would that really be a problem for the GMC?

  15. Thanks to Mr. Ron and to Deep Threat for the review and hints. Managed 7 answers rather quickly in the NW corner, then ground to a halt. Somehow managed to finish when a few pennies dropped. Started with 2d, finished with 18d favourites were 4&17d. Was 2*/3* for me, a very enjoyable puzzle. The Sun is AWOL again in Central London, very damp & cold. Off to do the Toughie, or at least make an attempt :-)

  16. A brief pause at 17d, while I remembered the ‘service’; otherwise a pleasant romp through this one.
    Thanks to setter (Shamus?), and Deep Threat for the notes.

  17. Seem a bit out of step with everyone today – possibly because a session in the dentist’s chair intervened, bah! So I found parts quite straightforward, and parts I took ages to ‘get’. Didn’t help myself by working overtime to fit a Native American Indian into 3d (last in, d’oh), although I fleetingly considered Florence! Liked 7 and 10a, and 18d. So 2*/4* for me. Thanks to setter and DT (ESP. Loved the pic for 18d). :-)

    1. Know what you mean about the dentist interfering with the crossword. I’ve spent enough time (and money) there recently to last me a fair while!

    2. Oh dear – poor you – hope it was OK. Hate going to dentist even if it is just a check up – makes me go all cold and shivery! :sad:

      1. That’s actually very encouraging, as I thought it was just me being feeble. Years of army dentists when I was younger (of the sort, put one foot on your chest in order to get proper leverage to yank) left me with a strong disinclination to visit. No one warned me that ageing isn’t for wimps & my graceful mama made it look SO easy. I would have preferred a run at it, I think!!

        1. And they’re still all mine… well mostly. When I take the time to find out how, I’ll to change my avatar to something more friendly!

    3. Remember, “patriotism is not enough”. 3d always comes to mind first when I think of brave English nurse

  18. A pleasant enough puzzle but too heavy on anagrams for my taste. Agree with DT’s star ratings.
    Favourite was 4d for the rather bizzare mental image it conjoured up :grin:

    Thanks to setter and Deep Threat.

  19. I thought this was straightforward – much more so than yesterday’s which is just as well as we have eight here for supper tonight. Probably 1* for difficulty and 4* for enjoyment.
    Spent far too long hunting for kernel being the lower part of a ship – stupid or what? With 11a I was trying to think of the name of a magazine. I completely missed the pangram even though I should have been alerted to the possibility as my first answer was 1d.
    Lots of really good clues – 5, 7, 10, 16 and 20a and 2, 3 and 6d.
    With thanks to Mr Ron and Deep Threat.
    Cold grey and drizzly in Oxford too. :sad: Clocks go forward four weeks this weekend. :grin:
    Off to do more cooking now.

    1. Don’t forget the toughie today Kath – it’s your favourite setter, and it’s a good one today!

    2. You have beaten me all hands down today Kath. Thought this was a three star difficult, most clues made very little sense to me.

  20. Thanks to the setter and DT for todays puzzle and hints. 5a was a new phrase for me (I know I’ve had a very sheltered life). Have a good day, all.

  21. Found this one very difficult. For me at least a three star. 19a was a total mystery, never heard of this bit of music before.

    1. BTW what has Kernel got to do with essential (17d)? The kernel is the central part or nucleus. My copy of Chambers mentions nothing about essential.

      1. I came at it the other way round, Brian. My dictionary definition of essential was “absolutely necessary central part’. But then I found today’s puzzle harder than most, and spent ages trying to make the keel of a ship fit with almost everything except one of our Forces – so what do I know!

        1. Think you hit the nail on the head re 17d Poppy!

          I’ve seen both the letters RAF and RN clued as a service but the army (apart from the Terriers) seem to get left out.

            1. They do indeed, along with GI, OR, MEN and today we had JOE but all these are usually clued as soldiers rather than service.

  22. Very enjoyable puzzle today. Found the top half easier going than the bottom half but managed it without hints. Did need the explanation for 12d though!
    I enjoyed the fact that we had Kings, Queens and a Jack in the puzzle – not to mention a Prince!
    I wanted to put undertow for 15d for no other reason than I was missing the “w” to complete the pangram! Reason did prevail however and the “w” gave me 18d.
    Thanks to DT and thanks to the setter.

  23. This was quite easy for me but was hung up on 5a for some time, no excuse as I should have got the author in 5d in a shot. So easy in hindsight. I also couldn’t understand why 23a as I think of that word as passing through or on the way, not shipment. I had to look it up to find out my answer was right. Good stuff, that, very enjoyable. Thanks to setter and DT.

  24. A very enjoyable puzzle which, as Mary says above, they don’t have to be hard to be enjoyed. Thanks for the hints DT which I needed to clarify some of my answers and thanks to Mysterion for a good crossword. Mrs. Collywobs is back from Blighty tomorrow so I’m back to a diet of sausages, with or without horsemeat

  25. I haven’t commented in an age, but read the blog daily and owe a thousand thanks for help. Today’s solve was in record time for me so pride compelled me to comment! 1*/4* and many thanks to setter and to DT.

  26. I really enjoyed that today not only because I found it very doable but because it was very clever and for a change I spotted the pangram! Thanks to Setter &DT .

  27. Very Enjoyable.Did get in a muddle at first with 17d >feel less thick having seen the comment .
    Faves 18d and 25d
    Thanks very much

  28. Not a crossword I enjoyed I’m afraid, too many anagrams or part anagrams, thanks to the setter and to Deep Threat for the review.

  29. We did not have to struggle very long with this one. Lots of clever clues and did spot the pangram very early in our solve. Have been pondering about who the setter might be, and have come to the conclusion that it sounds like “Blind Elk” If that doesn’t make sense try “no-eyed deer” (2,4).
    Thanks Mr Ron and DT.

  30. Hi there,
    Comment about 20a – Rabbis operated in Synagogues and Priests in Temples!.
    Love your blog it has helped me no end!

    1. Synagogues, priests etc are irrelevant. The Rabbi is a Minister, of the Jewish religion/race, and the T is simply the first letter of Temple, the word Team would have been OK for the wordplay, but not the surface.

      1. but for Alex, the surface reading of temple seemed wrong, until one takes into account the american usage.

        1. Una, let’s be clear about this – there is no American connection whatsoever in this clue. It’s one of the most simple clues in a very simple puzzle. I notice Alex used the past tense – don’t Rabbis operate any more and I’m not sure priests ever performed operations in temples!

          Chatter with minister, leader in temple.
          Def is chatter. Minister is a Rabbi (could be a P or priest or a rev or a lot of other things but this time it’s a rabbi) and add a T (leader in Temple).

          Where’s the American connection?

          1. You are very argumentative, Pommers.Of course any T would do for you, you are looking exclusively at the word play. What I was trying to say was that Alex seemed to be having a difficulty with the surface reading because Alex uses the word temple as referring to the long destroyed building in Jerusalem.I thought I was being helpful by pointing out that the word temple is in use in America as a synonym for synagogues, thus showing that the surface reading is in fact perfect.The rabbi is also the”leader” in “temples”.

            1. Of course I’m argumentative – love it!
              However, what you say has some merit and I wonder if the setter had it in mind as a sort of overlay over the whole clue. Somehow I doubt it but it’s the sort of thing that makes a cryptic crossword so fascinating!

  31. It took a while to get on the setter’s wavelength, not because of dental visits, something far worse, pay cuts!So I have been seething for the last 24 hours.Anyway when I finally focused, it all went in very quickly and was very enjoyable.Although I have to admit I never heard of Nurse Cavell.Thanks to the setter and Deep Threat.

Comments are closed.