DT 27103 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27103 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Crossword Club

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Today is your last chance to enter our Monthly Prize puzzle competition.

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Don’t forget that you can give your assessment of the puzzle. Five stars if you thought it was great, one if you hated it, four, three or two if it was somewhere in between.

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Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Across

1a           How ladies rode interests designated driver taken in drink (10)
Start with some interests or factions then add the abbreviation for Designated Driver inside (taken in) an alcoholic drink

12a         Walk clumsily after boot’s last seen in garbage (7)
A verb meaning to walk clumsily after the final letter (last) of booT

17a         Noblewoman of the French moving kings, queens, etc (7)
One form of the French for “of the” followed by a simplistically defined board game

19a         Excuse put forward before modern communications method (7)
Split as (3-4) this could mean before SMS was invented

21a         Religious follower, a saint captivated by John Paul II perhaps (7)
The A from the clue followed by the two-letter abbreviation for saint inside (captivated by) John Paul II or anyone else born in the same country as him

22a         Top awards left in gallery (5)
L(eft) inside the gallery or upper circle in the theatre

30a         Contribution to argument from page — won’t Henry get upset (10)
P(age) followed by an anagram (get upset) of WON’T HENRY

Down

1d           Chap perhaps giving rise to Love (4)
Reverse (giving rise to in a down clue) the Greek god of love

4d           After end of year, old communist upset GCHQ worker perhaps (7)
The three-letter abbreviation for the last month of the year followed by O(ld) and the usual three-letter word for a communist reversed (upset in a down clue)

8d           Aids to anonymity for celebrated girls (10)
These aids to anonymity could be worn by celebrated girls! – a verb meaning celebrated or extolled followed by some girls

16d         Fine good-for-nothing comes up with delicate tool (7)
F(ine) followed by a good-for-nothing person reversed (comes up in a down clue)

20d         Net to provide security from sound circus apparatus (7)
A net or lure followed by what sounds like a verb meaning to provide security from or alleviate

26d         Monstrous yarn that’s historical originally? (4)
Take the initial letters (originally) of the first four words in the clue

Many solvers will recognise the old chestnuts that litter this puzzle!


The Crossword Club is now open. Feel free to leave comments.

Please don’t put whole or partial answers or alternative clues in your comment, else they may be censored!


The Quick crossword pun: {soup} + {Amman} = {Superman}

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90 Comments

  1. Roger
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:13 am | Permalink

    What a fabulous crossword! Some clues that made me chuckle out loud. Superb. Favourites 18, 20, 21 and 24. Brilliant!!!

    • Caravaggio
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:35 am | Permalink

      My sentiments entirely, Roger, because 21a made me chuckle and I thought 16d was ingenious as well. I think this has been one of the best puzzles we’ve had in recent months and I really enjoyed it.

    • Captain Duff
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

      I’m in full agreement with you there – superb crossword.

  2. mary
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

    Good morning Dave, it took me ages to get going on this but once I did it flowed quite nicely except for bottom left corner, having put ‘swag’ in for 29a for some reasom! left me really puzzling over 22a and 23d until the penny finally dropped!!! 30a I wanted to put ‘crosswords’ in but saw the error of my ways, quite a few clues I liked inc 24a, 28a and 18d, thanks for hints Dave tho’ didn’t need them today, once a bit of perservation got me going I was fine, probably a three star for me today

  3. Collywobbles
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Like you Mary I struggled to get started for a long time but once I got a foothold North went in quite quickly, except for 1d for some reason, so I’m now focussed on South with some difficulty – I think that I’ll need some of the hints

  4. steve_the_beard
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:29 am | Permalink

    Blimey, that was over quickly – a new personal best by quite a margin. Pleasant enough, but I’d prefer a little more challenge!

    Re 15A – that’s a pleasing anagram :-)

    Thanks to BD and setter.

    • pommers
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

      15a is one of my favourite ‘apposite anagrams’. The others being THE CLASSROOM = SCHOOLMASTER and ELEVEN PLUS TWO = TWELVE PLUS ONE.

      • steve_the_beard
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

        Thanks pommers, I like those! :-)

  5. Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    One of the best Saturday puzzles for a long time. Really enjoyed this one. Many thanks.

    • Caravaggio
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:41 am | Permalink

      I’ve just seen your comments, Nigel, and, as you’ll see above, we’re totally in agreement!

  6. crypticsue
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Don’t think I have seen so many chestnuts grouped together for a very long time which made solving this puzzle a very straightforward experience

    Thanks to the Saturday Mysteron and Bd.

    • Libellule
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

      Sue,
      Ditto, I echo your sentiments.

    • una
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

      For you. I admire you solving ability and have been on the receiving end of your generosity many times for which I am very grateful. Apart from 2d and 4d, I didn’t recognise any old chestnuts because I haven’t been doing them for long enough, yet .

  7. Collywobbles
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    Could somebody explain the lgic behind 24a?

    • crypticsue
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

      Really???

      The definition is a state. The first three letters are an expression meaning ‘in the style of’ and the rest is a president ‘neglecting’ his first letter.

      • Collywobbles
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

        Thank you CS. Now that I feel thoroughly told off could you do the same for 28a. (I hesitate to ask)

        • mary
          Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

          Its a double definition collywobs, a word meaning pool and a young animal :-)

          • mary
            Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:08 pm | Permalink

            pool as in pool of money

            • Collywobbles
              Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

              Blimey, thanks Mary. Now I’ve escaped CSs’ wrath

              • mary
                Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

                :-D

  8. mikef
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Excellent puzzle. I finished in very good time – for me at least – and only needed a few hints. Thanks to the setter.

    Now for the garden……………………..

  9. Caroline
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Can someone give me a clue for 2d please? I think I’ve got the answer but I can’t work out the wordplay. Thanks!

    • crypticsue
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

      The abbreviation for English, followed by a preposition that can mean yet, in the sense of and yet all inserted in an Italian poet to give you a posh girl.

      • Collywobbles
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

        Really???

      • Caroline
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

        Thanks! So easy when you know. Unfortunately, I thought the Italian poet was actually a French author!

    • Michael
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

      I worked out to be ***** as the Italian poet include an ‘E’ for English and ‘***’ as a substitute for ‘yet’ – mix it all up and what do you get!

  10. Poppy
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

    1a was my first one in because in the dim and distant past I occasionally rode one (while feeling rather unsafe)! Kept going well until the NW corner & floundered there for a while not helped by being a (inc. the extra D for delicate) total idiot and putting “fiddler’ in for 16d – with my own clear what-I-call-logic explaining it!! When it finally crossed my mind that I might be wrong with that, & found the correct solution all the rest fell into place. Phew! Many thanks to the setter for a fun puzzle, & to BD for hints which I actually didn’t need today (amazing!)

    • mary
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:13 pm | Permalink

      You are doing really well Poppy :-)

      • Poppy
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

        Thanks, Mary, that’s very encouraging. And it is SO good to have you back again (not forgetting dear Angel still…)

        • mary
          Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:50 pm | Permalink

          Thanx :-)

    • steve_the_beard
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

      Apparently it was Rita Mae Brown who said “If the world were a logical place, men would ride (in this manner)”.

      As a motorcyclist, I beg to differ :-)

      • Poppy
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

        :-D

  11. Collywobbles
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    Final clue 19a. I’ve got all the checking letters but I can’t find a word that fits despite BDs’ hint.Can someone help?

    • mary
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

      As Dave says collywobs split the answer 3,4 the final four are what most people use to communicate with someone on their phones i.e. ‘modern communications method’ the first three mean ‘before’

      • Collywobbles
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Mary, now a quick kip before the Rugby

  12. DavidR
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Lots of great clues and a couple of ‘golden oldies’, but it was a somewhat fleeting entertainment after yesterdays challenge.
    Favourite probably 14d. Thanks to all.

  13. Deecee
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

    I muddled myself with 9a: I put RUMBA as in a rum BA ’til I got 2d then realised. Can someone tell me the wordplay for 21d please. The only one left. I am pretty certain of the answer but have no idea why. Thanks

    • gazza
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

      Hi Deecee – welcome to the blog.

      • Deecee
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:45 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Gazza and Mary!

        • mary
          Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

          Where’s Acee Deecee?

    • mary
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

      21d the definition is leave, you need the ‘a’ from the clue followed by a four letter word for a group of musicians, followed by a two letter word for playing as in a live act

  14. pommers
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    Chestnuts or not, that was a lot of fun :grin:

    Thanks to Mr Ron and BD.

  15. Deecee
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Oh! Got it now but not what I originally thought which didn’t make sense anyway! great crossword. Thanks

  16. Filby
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Managed without hints today. Last in was 25d because I was sure that “not level like famous gardens” must refer to the Hanging Gardens of Babylon!

  17. Addicted
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:39 pm | Permalink

    Enjoyed that – many thanks to setter and BD for some explanations (hints not needed for once!) However, could someone just clarify 13a please as I’ve never heard that word as a noun, only as something you do with a bucket – if you see what I mean!

    • steve_the_beard
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

      I’ve just checked my elderly copy of the BRB, and that word is indeed shown as a noun, it being the thing (for example, a bucket) that you would use to do the verb :-)

      • Addicted
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

        Thank you Steve – I don’t have a BRB – perhaps that’s half my trouble??!

        • crypticsue
          Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:36 pm | Permalink

          It is well worth investing in a copy – expensive but so helpful when sorting out why something means something.

          I have three copies – the latest version lives upstairs by the side of the computer, the 11th edition downstairs in the sitting room, and we also have a 1948 edition given to my parents as a wedding present. You can never have too many dictionaries.

          • Weekend Wanda
            Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

            I have a number of copies but they were purchased unused but for £2 each from a remainder warehouse!

          • Dawn
            Posted February 16, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

            Without BRB I would not have got as far as I have and because it is so good, I chose the BRB Thesaurus too. Money extremely well spent and it too has meant my solving ability is improving. Sometimes, when you get the answer, the wordplay clicks and it helps your understanding….and sometimes it doesn’t :-)

        • mary
          Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

          The Chambers Crossword dictionary is also well worth the money, this is the one I would really be lost without, even though I have both

          • crypticsue
            Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:45 pm | Permalink

            I have Bradford’s Crossword Dictonary too – you quite often find that a word you need will be in either Bradfords or Chambers Crossword Dictonaries but not necessarily both.

          • Poppy
            Posted February 16, 2013 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

            Yes, I use that a lot too, Mary. But my main problem with my BRB is lugging it upstairs or downstairs! :-)

  18. Rufus the Dog
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

    Another enjoyable Saturday crossword – managed without hints again. 30a took me a moment or two, 15a made me smile – not seen it before but I am sure it pops up from time to time. 20d good too.

  19. neveracrossword
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    A pleasant stroll – just the antidote to yesterday’s toughie.

  20. Kingsley
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Hi from South Africa! Finished it today (with a little help from BD!), but – although I have the answer to 14d, I don’t get the wordplay. I assume we have a two letter abbreviation (“limit”) of “self-confidence” but how the rest of the word connects to “school tests” simply ******* **!

    • Catherine
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

      Hi Kingsley. Just spent some time figuring this out myself. There are three parts to the answer. A three letter word for “limit” then a three letter word for “self-confidence” all inside a four letter abbreviation for “school tests”.

      • una
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 8:32 pm | Permalink

        Thanks, Catherine, I was somewhat loathe to ask . I’m done now.

    • Balliejames
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

      Where are you Kingsley?

  21. Michael
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Just a general query and I apologise for my ignorance but what’s this BRB that’s referred to?

    • steve_the_beard
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

      BRB is the Big Red Book, the Chamber’s Dictionary, which is the official reference for DT crosswords.

      It is possible to search it online, but as Big Dave has had occasion to point out to me in the past, the free online version is merely a subset of the Real Thing.

      Anyway, if you follow this link

      http://www.chambers.co.uk/search.php?query=beard&title=21st

      you’ll see how to look up a word of personal interest :-)

    • stanXYZ
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

      Big Red Book – Chambers Dictionary now in the 12th edition.

    • Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:06 pm | Permalink

      “What is the BRB?” is a Frequently Asked Question, so I added it to the FAQ a few days ago!
      http://bigdave44.com/faq/#brb

  22. stanXYZ
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable puzzle today albeit very easy.

    Old chestnuts are always welcome in this neck of the woods.

    • Only fools
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

      Exactly .
      And some of the comments above prove that old chestnuts for some are new to others .

  23. Captain Duff
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    This had everything I like about a crossword – clever, humorous clues that did not take all day to solve. First mate and I did it together over a coffee and it is the first time I have awarded a 5* for enjoyment and a 2* for difficulty. A big thank you to the compiler and BD.

  24. Rod Ash
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

    I agree with several earlier comments. Lots of clever clues but over quite quickly.

  25. Weekend Wanda
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Thank you setter, Dave and all contributors. A different style I thought. Only two complaints – firstly too quick and secondly some answers eg 1a and 14d were obvious without getting into the cryptic clue. Last one in was 19a and I resorted to the hint Was on the right lines and I should have persavated. This was a one session solve so I could not be bothered. It is the first time for ages I have got down to it on Saturday so wished it had gone on for longer. Liked 27a and 4 11 and 16d particularly.

  26. Merusa
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:09 pm | Permalink

    Well, that was a fun canter this morning. Enjoyed seeing some old friends, e.g., 15a. I like a bit of challenge but today’s puzzle restores ones self-confidence.

    It’s raining. Not a cause for unbridled joy for a waterlogged nation, but we haven’t had rain for three months and my front “lawn” looks more like hay than grass. The fresh smell is pure heaven.

    • Poppy
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 7:03 pm | Permalink

      Yes I agree, Merusa – having dented my confidence badly with a Toughie recently, this was just what I needed to get enthused once more.

  27. Kath
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Having spent all day, so far, sorting out muddles of the ancient Mum variety I’m now fed-up and grumpy so I’m not sure that I would have coped with a tricky crossword – and this wasn’t one – probably just as well.
    I enjoyed it but agree with others who have said that it was over pretty quickly. The only two that held me up were 8 and 26d. Oh, and 21a – that was fine once I remembered that he had a nationality as well as a rather high position in the church!
    I liked 24 and 30a and 14, 16 and 25d.
    With thanks to Mr Ron and BD.
    Off for grumpy dog walk now then going to have a go at NTSPP.

  28. Heno
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 3:54 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to the setter & to Big Dave for the hints. A fairly gentle stroll today, didn’t need the hints for once. started with 1d, finished with 26d. favourites were 24a and 11&16d. Thought a few of the clues were old chestnuts, 15&28a and 21&25d. Quite enjoyable, was 2*/3* for me.

  29. Shawn
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

    Finished the crossword with ease today, which is great, as I can get on with other things, and also got of to watch the Africa Open on our golf course. The wind blew much to my delight, as I think these pro golfers don’t get enough windy conditions! 12 a the best clue today.

  30. Dawn
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 4:39 pm | Permalink

    This was definitely on my wavelength today and I can hold my head up high because I did not look at the hints or comments until after I had finished.

    Thanks BD for the explanation of 1A, I got the answer but didn’t know why and thanks to the setter too.

    Enjoyed 17A amongst others and it feels strange to recognise some clue/answers from previous puzzles.

  31. Little Dave
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 4:55 pm | Permalink

    Zolomed through this one and all done wihout too much angst. Thanks to the setter and a good weekend to you all.

  32. Collywobbles
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 4:57 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable crossword. Finished South with a little help from my friends and BD for which thanks and also to Mr. Ron

  33. pommers
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Having a tooth out on Thurs might have got me out of the IKEA trip but it had to be done today!

    We got a result though! Pommette found just the kitchen table she wants on IKEA’s UK website priced at £140. So we went on their Spanish site to find out if it’s in stock at their branch in Murcia, only to find it is and it’s only €99 – wow, great methinks. We get to the shop to find it’s on offer this week at only €54.95 – sometimes the Gods do smile upon one :grin:

    • una
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 11:15 pm | Permalink

      I bought a table 5 weeks ago in a Laura Ashley franchise,they made me pay cash up front, with a ten week delivery date.Everyday I’m just hoping they don’t go bust.It was well reduced though.

  34. Sweet William
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Enjoyable puzzle, thank you setter. Thanks BD for your hints. Had to get through this reasonably quickly as the we were to meet up with our family in Newcastle to visit the Hancock Museum. Managed to stay out of the Clueless Club again so guess that it was not the most taxing of crosswords – good fun nevertheless.

  35. Annidrum
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Lovely. Thanks to Setter &BD although I didn’t need the hints.

  36. Xavier
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 5:58 pm | Permalink

    Yeah, good one today. Struggled at first then raced through it. (with a little help from Dave!)

  37. laney
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    I’m a newcomer to the exciting world of cryptic crosswords and really enjoying the challenge to my ‘grey matter’. At the risk of appearing thick….could some one please give me a hint or 3 for 27a.Thank you.

    • gazza
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 6:49 pm | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog, Ianey.

      27a Hear a word broadcast as a tip for The Archers (9)

      It’s an anagram.

      • Poppy
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 7:10 pm | Permalink

        D’oh! Can’t believe I didn’t see that anagram at all. I solved it on the last part of the clue once I had checking letters. Still so much to learn, sigh….

  38. Derek
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 8:04 pm | Permalink

    A pleasant solve : faves : 24a, 30a, 4d & 11d.

    I think spring is at last coming to NL!

  39. Leveret
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 8:26 pm | Permalink

    I’m new here – just to say thanks, ‘cos I sometimes have to use Chambers Wordsearch to finish the DT Saturday Prize [main reason for taking this paper on Sat – plus the motoring section] but this site I’ve just found is more fun as explanations are often given!
    Got briefly stuck on 11d – tried to make tapioco fit!

    • gazza
      Posted February 16, 2013 at 8:34 pm | Permalink

      Hi Leveret – welcome to the blog. Now that you’ve found us I hope that we’ll hear from you on a regular basis.

  40. una
    Posted February 16, 2013 at 8:37 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to setter and Big Dave.I have to agree with Weekend Wanda above, 1a wasn’t very cryptic.

    • Posted February 16, 2013 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

      As has been previously observed the definition in 1 across is rather obvious and the surface reading is dreadful. There is, however, a cryptic element in the wordplay.

      • una
        Posted February 16, 2013 at 9:21 pm | Permalink

        Yes, it was so cryptic I just ignored it, and went with the answer I first thought of , a tactic that usually works for me except yesterday with chestnuts and sweetcorn.I am beginning to like those clues that you can only get from following the cryptic clue closely.