DT 27301 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27301 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Crossword Club

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Another month has come around, so it’s time for our Monthly Prize Puzzle.

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

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[I am not quite sure what has happened to Big Dave. The lure of cake at the Village Café and Market may have been too strong. Here are a few hints and tips to keep you going! Prolixic]

Many thanks to Prolixic for stepping in to help out. I had set up the basic post, with the Quickie pun, and was then interrupted by our visitors needing some breakfast. They have only just left, so I’ll try to add a few more hints later.

Across

1a Cook apple and fry stick insects with it (8)
An anagram (cook) of APPLE FRY to give a sticky means of capturing insects

6a Be put back in charge to get refund (6)
Reverse the BE from the clue and put it inside another word for a charge or cost

13a Artist doing nudes? The underwear could go here (6,6)
This could describe an artist sketching nudes from behind

21a Energy being interrupted, might stop filming (5,3)
Might or strength followed by a command to stop filming

25a Look to make a cricket score? (6)
A double definition for a brief look at something and a type of cricket shot that might lead to score

26a Excited seeing the daughter crossing brook (8)
The THE from the clue and the abbreviation for daughter go around (crossing) a word for a brook

Down

2d Odd lot missing from tall order being arranged in storeroom (6)
Remove the letters of LOT from TALL ORDER and make an anagram (arranged) of the letters that remain. The “odd” tells us that the letters of LOT are not in order when removed from the words tall order

3d To important person on the way up it’s the turning point (5)
Take the TO from the clue and abbreviation for a very important person and reverse the lot (on the way up)

7d Do for vegetarians? (9)
A cryptic definition of a banquet that is somewhat lacking in meat

14d Severe steward — I will be ejected in mid-ocean perhaps (4,5)
An adjective meaning severe or profound followed by a steward from which the I has been dropped (ejected)

20d One degree Celsius in river in thaw (2-3)
Put one degree Celsius as you would write it in figures and letters inside the name of a river that flows through Chester

22d Majestic delight unfinished (5)
Remove the final letter from a word meaning delight or treat to a story about something


The Crossword Club is now open. Feel free to leave comments.

As this is a Prize crossword, please don’t put any ANSWERS, whether WHOLE, PARTIAL or INCORRECT, or any ALTERNATIVE CLUES in your comment.

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The Quick crossword pun: (antic} + {lime} + {axe} = {anticlimax}


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78 Comments

  1. Rabbit Dave
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:14 pm | Permalink

    A straightforward (1* difficulty) but nevertheless enjoyable (3* enjoyment) puzzle to start the weekend. It took a while for the penny to drop on the wordplay for 21a with the clever misdirection of using a verb to clue a noun in part of the answer. 13a made me smile and was my favourite.

    Many thanks to Mr Ron (1) the setter and to Mr Ron (2) the reviewer, as I assume that, given the remark “I am not quite sure what has happened to Big Dave”, the hints are not BD’s even though it says he posted them.

    • Prolixic
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

      Correct. BD was delayed so I posted some temporary hints using the post that he had begun to create before he was waylaid!

      • Rabbit Dave
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

        Delayed by cake sounds fair enough! Thanks very much for stepping in. Although I have to say that your photo for 1a was not at all what I wanted to see whilst I was eating my lunch!

      • Tantalus
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:07 pm | Permalink

        BD’s B&B! Send bacon!

        • Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

          Funny you should say that – we stocked up on fresh farm eggs and bacon from the village butcher and all they wanted was toast.. I’d been looking forward to having a full English!

          • Tantalus
            Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

            I bet they were bloody Americans!
            Mrs T & I will happily eat the surplus: overeasy, links, wheat and tomaydoughs please.

            • Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

              Please translate links and wheat.

              • Tantalus
                Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:53 pm | Permalink

                In US, Sausages are eaten as either patties (flat and round) or as links (in casein tubes), and toast must always be described (white, wheat, rye, pupernickel, sourdough….). More here.

              • Tantalus
                Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

                Breads: scone (UK) is called biscuit (US), biscuit (UK) is called cookie (US), crumpet (UK) does not translate at all, jam (UK) is called preserve (seeded) or jelly (seedless) in the US. Thankfully butter is spelled, if not pronounced, the same (and there are marked similarities between the UK and US variants). English Muffins have their very own posting .

                Meats: bacon (UK) is Canadian bacon (US), bacon (US) is crispy fat (UK), sausages (UK) are links (US), links (UK) are where you play golf, patty (US) is a hamburger (UK) [yes, a burger made of pig or ham], hamburger (US) is beefburger (UK), Gammon (UK) is ham steak (US) [no fat, pre boiled], grits (US) is closest to semolina (UK) never eaten at breakfast, blackpudding (UK) is like haggis (Scotland) but does not feature in the US – in England is often eaten just prior to a heart attack!

                Eggs: fried eggs are called all kinds of things in the US: sunny-side-up for runny yokes, or looking-at-you for runny whites, or easy-over for flipped in the pan, or hard-over for eggs cooked aboard the Exxon Valdez (joke). The other thing that is most strange is ‘egg beater’ which in the UK is a whisk but in the US is a dried yellow powder that is an alternative to using fresh eggs. Scambled and poached are very similar, hard boiled less so.

                Drinks are a topic in their own right – the English will drink squash, give cordial to children, put milk in coffee, …and tea is just not the same… “What did the Brits drink before you ransacked India?” as I am all too often asked.

                In the US, squash is a large turnip thingy and cordial is hard liquor. In the UK both are concentrated fruit drink that usually carry the instruction”dilute to taste” (Most Americans should bear the same warning).

                And last, but not least, catsup (US) is Tomato Sauce (UK), Tomato Sauce (US) is salsa dip (UK), brown sauce (UK) is steak sauce (US) and Worcestershire Sauce (UK) is mispronounced (US).

                God save ketchup – the only thing that translates perfectly!

                • Gaspode
                  Posted October 5, 2013 at 6:42 pm | Permalink

                  As a Brit living in the US, I am constantly reminded of the differences between the two languages and cultures. The DT is one of the things that keeps me sane, particularly on days like today when I was able to complete the cryptic without any help!

                  For those interested in UK/US language comparisons, there is a great website – effingpot dot com – which is very informative and entertaining. I have no connection with it, BTW, and hope I haven’t broken any rules by mentioning it.

                  And, as always, many thanks to BD and the setter…

                  • Posted October 5, 2013 at 7:36 pm | Permalink

                    As it’s not an answer to today’s puzzle, no rules have been broken.

          • Merusa
            Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

            I’ll be on the next flight over

      • Merusa
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:24 pm | Permalink

        I love the way you chaps help each other out, especially as it’s mainly for our entertainment. Thank you heaps.

  2. Collywobbles
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    A very enjoyable puzzle and I thought there were some very clever clues although, possibly, too many anagrams. Nevertheless thoroughly enjoyable. Do we know the name of the setter or is it Mr/Mrs/Miss Ron>

    • Prolixic
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

      I think that Cephas is on duty this week.

    • Collywobbles
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

      Yes, it’s typically clever for it to be him

      • Collywobbles
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

        23d is 22d Prolixit

        • Prolixic
          Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

          Corrected. This is why BD is missed!

  3. Caroline
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

    It’s very quiet on here today! Only 2 I’m stuck on – 14d have the answer but can’t work out the wordplay and 18d. Will check in later to see if everyone has woken up! Two seconds after posting this, I got the wordplay! Now only stuck on 18d! And two seconds after that, I got 18d. Happy to have completed a crossword with no help. Haven’t managed that for a loooong time!

  4. Prolixic
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    14d is a word meaning severe followed by another name for a steward with the I removed. The answer means “in mid-ocean perhaps”

    18d “It is not immediately obvious” is the definition. Remove the IT from a secondary name (that may go below the main name of something)

    • Caroline
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

      Thanks!

  5. Caravaggio
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

    I thought that this was a most enjoyable puzzle because, at first sight, I thought that I was going to have trouble with it and then was pleasantly surprised as the grid began filling up. 13a brought a smile to my face – like Rabbit Dave above – and was my favourite clue too.

    • Tantalus
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

      Agreed, much guffawing in Boston although here it is called “fanny” (a might awkward). Anyway, thanks to the cryptognomes and the settee for our tea and toast. Mrs & Mr T.

      • Merusa
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:50 pm | Permalink

        And I thought “fanny” was English for xxxxxxx! I never knew it was American.

        • crypticsue
          Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:59 pm | Permalink

          There is an awful lot of ‘alternative cluing’ and ‘giving answers’ going on this afternoon. Please behave as Mr CS says the ginger cake is far too good for naughty people.

          • mary
            Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

            We need the crossword police ;-)

            • crypticsue
              Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:21 pm | Permalink

              I thought that was what I was (well this afternoon anyway) :)

              • Tantalus
                Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:25 pm | Permalink

                The ginger cake is delicious (I hesitate to say that “ginger cake” means something else in Boston).

        • Tantalus
          Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:57 pm | Permalink

          Xxxxxxx?

  6. Toni
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Loved this crossword. Didn’t need the hints but thanks anyway

  7. Tantalus
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

    Our contribution:
    10a: Nagaram (misplaced) of FEARS ARE to mean mariner.

  8. Outnumbered
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

    Pretty straightforward but good fun.

  9. AndyB
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

    Not sure about the parsing of 12a – can someone help me out?

    13a gave me a chuckle!

    Andy

    • Prolixic
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

      A homophone (in the audience ) of another word for a thug followed by the chemical symbol for iron and the last letter of act to give a clump (capable of being sat on)

      • AndyB
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

        Thanks! Got it now. It didn’t help that the answer I had was wrong!

        Andy

      • Tantalus
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

        xxxxxxx

        I think this counts as an alternative clue. I can offer ginger cake for the corner if that helps! CS

        • Tantalus
          Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

          Sorry!
          But now people will think I am talking to myself online!

          • Tantalus
            Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

            You are!
            CS – is there enough cake for both of me?

            • Tantalus
              Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:07 pm | Permalink

              Now you are getting silly – How do you live with yourself?

              • Tantalus
                Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

                We sleep in separate beds!

                • mary
                  Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

                  Silly Tantalus – I like it ;-)

                  • crypticsue
                    Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

                    Don’t encourage him Mary :)

                    • mary
                      Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

                      I like both of him in fact!

                    • Tantalus
                      Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:43 pm | Permalink

                      We like Mary!

                    • una
                      Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

                      We all like Mary !

                    • mary
                      Posted October 6, 2013 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

                      thank you :-)

          • crypticsue
            Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

            I did think that just now when getting the bread out of the oven but I can’t correct it as otherwise people will think you are even dafter than usual :D

            • Tantalus
              Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:30 pm | Permalink

              Like

      • Shawn
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

        Thanks for the confirming the answer. Did not need BD today!!

  10. Mark
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:12 pm | Permalink

    Nice one. Straight from the brain with no aids, assuming my best guess at 12a is correct. The word seems right, but I can’t get the wordplay. Any explanations out there?
    I thought 13a was delightful, it made me laugh……very cheeky!

    • Chris
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

      First 3 letters sound like synonym of thug; chemical symbol for iron; last letter of act.

      • Mark
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Chris

        Pretty lame clue if you ask me, but it seems I was right. Couldn’t be anything else really.

  11. Senf
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

    A slow start before lights out last night with about half completed, easily remembered the word for brook in 26a. But finished off this morning unaided. Favourites would be 16a and 13d (which was last one in). I now have plenty of time to start on the MPP.

  12. Heno
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to the setter and to Prolixic for the hints, which I didn’t need. A fairly straightforward puzzle with a sprinkling of good clues, my favourite being 13a which made me laugh out loud. No real problems. Was 2*/3* for me.

  13. Dawn
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

    The left hand side went in a great deal easier than the right, not come across 17d before and laughed out loud at 13a.

    I convinced myself that another answer for 9a was right which led me to putting an incorrect answer in for 5d…when I twigged it eventually, another doh moment. On top of all that I put the wrong second word in for 16a so to have got one to go is a minor miracle

    Thanks to Prolixic for the hints

  14. Merusa
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

    This was just enough of a workout but easily do-able without the hints. I, too, thought 13a my favourite, with honourable mention to 13d. Thanks to all.

  15. mary
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:13 pm | Permalink

    Really enjoyed todays crossword, finished early on but have had to be out all day, I think out of all the days, chatting on the Saturday blog is the most enjoyable, unfortunately I now have to go and toot the flute in church if I can stop coughing!

  16. crypticsue
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:14 pm | Permalink

    Anyone at a loose end might like to give both the NTSPP and MPP a go. Not many people seem to be having a go at the NTSPPs lately which is a shame as the setters and BD put so much effort into providing us with alternative entertainment on a Saturday afternoon.

  17. Neil Powell!
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

    Pretty straight-forward for me. Couldn’t get 12a without help from Prolixic but apart from that no problems. Favourites 7d, 25a and along with everyone else, 13a!

  18. Sweet William
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 4:43 pm | Permalink

    Thank you setter, not too hard and thank you hinters. Lovely day in N Norfolk and successful day at Titchwell.

  19. Danco
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

    Discovered BD Crossword Blog recently.Great help thanks but today completed all. Must have been easier

    • gazza
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog Danco.

      • Derek
        Posted October 7, 2013 at 5:40 pm | Permalink

        Hi Gazza!
        You seem to have given my avatar to Danco – please correct this error.
        Derek.

        • Derek
          Posted October 7, 2013 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

          I do notice that that there is a very slight difference between the two but please change his!

          • gazza
            Posted October 7, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

            I don’t allocate avatars. They’re automatically generated from the email address. Danco’s appears to be a different colour to yours, but if you you want to choose a personal avatar you can do so. See this bit of the FAQ.

            • Derek
              Posted October 7, 2013 at 7:20 pm | Permalink

              Yes, I notice the slight difference of colour so lets leave it!

  20. una
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:37 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable but I haven’t found it as easy as all the rest of you. I’m still stumped by the second word of 23a, also 24a and 18d.Help from any quarter appreciated !

    • una
      Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:40 pm | Permalink

      Just got 23a.

      • una
        Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:42 pm | Permalink

        and 24a.

        • Tantalus
          Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:48 pm | Permalink

          The opposite of slack (plural), also worn on your {self censored noun}. Am already in the naughty corner – please send cake).

          • una
            Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

            Thank you Tantalus, got them all now, with a little electronic help. Thanks also to Prolixic although those he hinted were the one I didn’t need.And thanks to setter.

            • Tantalus
              Posted October 5, 2013 at 9:59 pm | Permalink

              Are you inferring that Prolixic is male -shame on you! Smiley (tongue in cheek (not that cheek)) face.

              • una
                Posted October 6, 2013 at 3:00 pm | Permalink

                Disgusted Tunbridge Wells, not, I love the British sense of humour !

  21. steve_the_beard
    Posted October 5, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

    I enjoyed it all, but especially 13A. When number two daughter married last Spring, I managed to introduce the word “callipygous” into my speech (when thanking the multitude of bridesmaids) :-)

  22. Little Dave
    Posted October 6, 2013 at 9:18 am | Permalink

    Nothing too startling. 21a did not really work for me.

  23. Sue
    Posted October 6, 2013 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    Completed after babysitting for the afternoon – i.e. brain dead! Fairly straightforward. Loved 13A. Didn’t like 12A – why has no-one mentioned ****** **** ******?

    Now off to prepare a sumptuous feast for the rellies, although not a 7D – there would be uproar!

    • Posted October 6, 2013 at 10:46 am | Permalink

      They did – and deleted it before I could do the same.

  24. Danco
    Posted October 7, 2013 at 5:06 pm | Permalink

    Thanks for the welcome Gazza