DT 27235 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27235 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Crossword Club

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Today is your last chance to have a go at our Monthly Prize Puzzle.

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

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Across

1a           Possible murder weapon is hot clue at first (4,6)
One of the weapons that can be used to commit murder in the original version of Cluedo is derived by putting an adjective meaning very hot after (at first) a clue or hint

6a           Gamble pawn in short time (4)
P(awn) inside an abbreviated version of a short period of time

13a         Fanatic keeping slim having space for healthy food (9)
A three-letter fanatic around (keeping) an adjective meaning slim and a space used in printing, named after the letter that takes the same amount of space on the line

18a         Mischievous creature in the style of an antelope (6)
A mischievous creature followed by a preposition meaning “in the style of”

20a         Prosperous time round New Hampshire that is creating good will (8)
A prosperous time around the abbreviation for New Hampshire and followed by the abbreviation of the Latin for that is

26a         Could be evens? Yes and no (4)
Two definitions – a term used in betting and numbers that are not evens

27a         Mother or father restricting Irish boy’s diet (10)
A word that describes a mother or father around (restricting) an Irish boy’s name gives a diet or legislative assembly – brings back memories of that schoolboy favourite, the Diet of Worms

29a         China to top local competition (5,5)
A verb meaning to top or complete followed by a competition between two local teams

Down

1d           Member in political party branch (4)
M(ember) inside the three-letter abbreviation for a particular political party

2d           Gold mace perhaps an omen (7)
The chemical symbol for gold followed by the type of commodity of which mace is an example

4d           Cremation facility observed when climbing mountains (8)
A method of cremation used in countries like India followed by the reversal (when climbing) of a verb meaning observed

8d           Withdrawal symptoms make lord cut out what’s essential (4,6)
The symptoms encountered by someone who is withdrawing from a drug like heroin are derived from an anagram (out) of LORD CUT followed by a word meaning essential

11d         She’s author drawn to follow horseman (5,7)
The name of the author of the classic novel She comes from an adjective meaning drawn or gaunt preceded by (to follow) a horseman

17d         Ashley or Cheryl’s regulation salad (8)
Easy for those of us that are fed a diet of the ups and downs of this particularly boring couple – their surname is followed by the S from ‘S and a regulation

One occasion when the spoof version is far better than the original!

19d         Orchestra’s place is to receive praise, praise for performance (7)
The place where the orchestra is to be found around a verb meaning to praise

22d         Unknown group of problem drinkers in pub will provide a market (6)
A mathematical unknown and a group of problem drinkers inside a pub

25d         Guy is last (4)
Two definitions – a guy or rope and a verb meaning to last or endure


The Crossword Club is now open. Feel free to leave comments.

PLEASE DON’T PUT WHOLE OR PARTIAL ANSWERS OR ALTERNATIVE CLUES IN YOUR COMMENT, ELSE THEY MAY BE CENSORED!


The Quick crossword pun: (fought} + {knocks} = {Fort Knox}


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85 Comments

  1. Brian
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:40 am | Permalink

    Could someone explain the clue 7d, I just don’t get it. Only that and 6a to do.

    • Captain Lethargy
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

      The Here and now and also to show something. Hope that doesn’t infringe!

    • mary
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:04 am | Permalink

      Think of a word for The Now which also means show, this is one of my favourite clues as The Now Show is a TV programme, I thought it was clever

      • steve_the_beard
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:11 pm | Permalink

        Don’t know about the TV, but The Now Show is a Radio 4 comedy show with Steve Punt and Hugh Dennis.

    • mary
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

      6a is as Daves clue says, personally I had never heard of this term for gamble unless it’s the shortened version?

      • mary
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:21 am | Permalink

        Oh I see… if you buy something on **** you could be taking a gamble on it

        • Michael
          Posted July 21, 2013 at 9:57 am | Permalink

          I associate with Building houses on ****, where the Contractor was ****ulating.

    • Himself
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

      When you *********************. [There’s nothing in the clue giving that interpretation. Please don’t post alternative clues. BD]

      • Himself
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

        Apologies

        • Tantalus
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

          Being censored is often the highest praise **** *****. I also break the unwritten commandment “thou shalt not covet thy neighbour’s hints”.

          • Himself
            Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

            Thank you – for both comments

    • Brian
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

      Thx chaps, I do get it now but never understand the reason for italics.
      Personally I think it’s a dreadful clue but then I would as i didn’t understand!
      Apart from these quite straightforward but can’t say I enjoyed it much. Too many convoluted clues for my my taste and very few anagrams.

  2. Poppy
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Good morning BD and thank you so much for the hints in such good time. Was delighted to finish this, bar one, on which I am completely stuck – 15a. I have all the checking letters, I think but just can’t ‘see’ it… Probably being really slow, but if anyone can push me in the right direction without being sent to the naughty step, I’d really appreciate it.

    • gazza
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:53 am | Permalink

      15a Clergymen with afterthought about group helping couples (8)
      The afterthought is what you might put in a letter.

      • Dawn
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Gazza!

      • Poppy
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

        D’oh! I’d even got the correct word but couldn’t see how it fitted the clue. Thanks for the help :-)

  3. Captain Lethargy
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    Nice crossword for Saturday. Starts the weekend nicely. Couple of dohs, but that’s what we want! Thanks to BD & Setter.

  4. Graham
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    I managed tp complete despite getting held up on the very last clue which on my paper appears as guv (should have gone to spec savers). Last one in was 4D which I think is a nice clue.Many thanks To the setter & B D for the review.Time for cricket now

    • crypticsue
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:38 am | Permalink

      Speaking as someone who has spent more time in the last year having her eyes examined than not and now has much improved vision , I can confirm that it does look like guv in the paper!!

      • Sweet William
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:52 am | Permalink

        Definitely “guv” in my paper CS ! Did struggle a little with the wordplay ! but put the only obvious word in anyway – “guy” certainly helps !

        • crypticsue
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:55 am | Permalink

          Its the top line of that ad for ‘friendly bridge’ that’s the problem. Always makes me smile wondering what ‘unfriendly bridge’ would be like :)

          • Caravaggio
            Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:34 pm | Permalink

            And I had the same problem too – I was convinced the word was ‘Guv’. Like last Saturday, I’ve been sitting in the garden, with Test Match Special on the radio, completing the crossword and believing that all’s well with the world…

          • neveracrossword
            Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

            Try your local bridge club and you will probably find out!

          • Sweet William
            Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:54 pm | Permalink

            I’ve played unfriendly bridge – a few years ago. Result – I don’t play any more !

    • Kath
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:20 pm | Permalink

      Yes – same problem, guv.

  5. mary
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:09 am | Permalink

    Morning Dave, thanks for the hints, finished without them today with the top left hand corner being last in, needed some electronic help from my ‘friends’ but thoroughly enjoyed this one, favourite clues 15a, 23a, 7d, 25d liked lots of others too
    Another glorious sunny day with a nice breeze

    • crypticsue
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:39 am | Permalink

      Grey cloudy, heavy drizzle, fairly strong breeze. :(

      • mary
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

        Really!!!

    • Kath
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

      Much cooler here too – no sun – and, like where CS lives, fairly strong breeze – no drizzle, yet!

  6. Sweet William
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:32 am | Permalink

    Enjoyed this puzzle – I thought 9a particularly amusing ! Thank you setter and thank you BD for your hints. Our noisy neighbour hasn’t fired up his stereo system yet, so it is very nice to sit and enjoy the sunshine in peace – for the moment !

  7. newtothis
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:11 pm | Permalink

    Great crossword, actually finished it before lunchtime on Saturday which for me is a record!

    • Tantalus
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

      We finished it by 9:05! Mnnnner! (But US Eastern time).

      BD may send us to the naughty corner for mentioning the unmentionable “how long it took to complete”. The only safe way is to say ” completed it by the time the 10:45 Pangbourne train arrived in Reading” or “by the time the meringue was sagging”.

  8. Dawn
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Like Mary, the top left went in last and still have 12a not finished (despite checking letters) :oops: and really not sure about 13a.

    Thanks as always to BD for hints and setter.

    As usual some of this feel into place easily and some didn’t, 27a went in relatively painlessly.

    Once again, it is quiet on the blog, it is here to as Himself is at an airshow without me…bliss!

    • mary
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

      Hi Dawn 12a is a double definition, a word for a girl is also a word meaning to feel longing for something or someone when you are away from it/them

      • Dawn
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:54 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Mary, the dumb corner beckons strongly, I’ll take my glass of merlot with me to drown my sorrows :-)

        • Merusa
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

          That was my last one in, too, and was just about to ask for a hint when it came to me. Don’t you feel silly when you get it.

  9. jezza
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

    I liked this Saturday one. Many thanks to setter, and to BD.

  10. Rabbit Dave
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 12:36 pm | Permalink

    A nice gentle but enjoyable workout for a Saturday morning, but where has the sun gone in London? My rating is */***.

    27a was my favourite.

    Many thanks to Mr Ron and BD

    • Himself
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

      Me too. It should prove a good talking point

      • Tantalus
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:09 pm | Permalink

        Velly soleil. The sun is here.

  11. Tantalus
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:44 pm | Permalink

    Greetings from the commonwealth. Mrs T is stuck on 17d – who are these people?

    And thx to the crew for an enjoyable sunny Saturday crossword & toast morning (sunny and 85F).

    • Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:48 pm | Permalink

      Try googling their names (or watch the video on YouTube rather than the embedded version).

      • Tantalus
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 1:59 pm | Permalink

        That is cheating! I would much rather get hints from you lot! And the aroma of delicious temptation of CS cake ******** ***** ever present.

        • crypticsue
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

          Not today alas – too many other things to do.

    • mary
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:01 pm | Permalink

      She was a singer with Girls Aloud and he is a football player,(Chelsea I think) not sure if they are still married!

      • stanXYZ
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:16 pm | Permalink

        He’s often called Cashley – he complained that Arsenal only paid him £60,000 a week! God alone knows how much he gets a week at Chelsea.

        You can buy a lot of salad on that money!

        • Rabbit Dave
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

          However much that particular overpaid prima donna gets a week it will be rather less than the talented Mr. Rooney!

        • Merusa
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

          Blimey! Only £60,000 a WEEK? If he can’t make it on that, I’d be happy to make up a budget for him.

          • Rabbit Dave
            Posted July 20, 2013 at 5:21 pm | Permalink

            Wayne Rooney gets £250,000 a week!!!!

            Obviously worth every penny…

  12. Kath
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

    I thought this one was really good so 4* enjoyment, at least, and probably only 1* for difficulty – quite a rarity for me, probably just on the right wave length today.
    A couple of clues took me a while to work out the why bit. 1a – I thought the ‘hot clue’ was the first word of the answer which meant I couldn’t see where the second word came from. Oh dear! 9a – thought the first two letters were the ‘old woman’ and second two letters were the ‘street’ which left me in a right pickle. Oh dear, again!
    I liked 1, 18, 23 and 24a and 4, 7 and 21d. One of that lot is my favourite but I’m not sure which one!
    With thanks to Mr Ron and BD.
    Going to try NTSPP later but it will have to be on husband’s iPad as our printer has gone on strike.

  13. Heno
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave for the hints. Has taken me ages, still stuck on 9a, any help would be much appreciated. Lovely puzzle, favourites were 2,11,19,22d. Was 3*/3* for me. A bit cooler today in Central London. Come on England.

    • crypticsue
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

      9a – the definition is ‘group bent on domnating’ the first three letters are an informal way of saying old woman’s and the last 7 are a type of street.

      • Heno
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:56 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Sue, got it now, excellent hint. I wouldn’t have thought of that.

    • Rabbit Dave
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

      9a Group bent on dominating the old woman’s street

      Split the old woman’s (3) street (7)

      • Heno
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Dave

      • Rabbit Dave
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

        I tried to underline “Group bent on dominating” but using the suggestion in the FAQs (which works for me for bold and italic) the underline formatting has disappeared :-(

  14. Merusa
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:09 pm | Permalink

    Obviously on wavelength again, only real problem was 12a. 17d also was above my head, not having a clue who they were, but the answer was obvious from checking letters. Thanks to all for good start to the day. I’ve decided the baby is going to arrive on my Dad’s birthday, the 22nd. Have a good weekend.

    • crypticsue
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:51 pm | Permalink

      Did you see the brilliant Matt cartoon on the subject of that baby on Thursday? Brilliant as usual.

      • Merusa
        Posted July 20, 2013 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

        Yes, I saw it. He is so brilliant, I usually look for him first.

  15. Rosie G
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:24 pm | Permalink

    A probable ** or *** star for difficulty but a good *** for enjoyment. Some good clues, several Doh moments and thank you for the explanation of 9a. Cannot at the moment see the connection of my answer to 27a and the final word of the clue.
    Busy day preparing for large family contingent arriving tomorrow but enjoyed doing this in the sunshine that has at last appeared with the cloud dispersal and no I do not live in the East side of the country!

    • Merusa
      Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:29 pm | Permalink

      “Diet” as in the Diet of Worms, an assembly.

      • Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:32 pm | Permalink

        … which was mentioned in the hint!

        • Merusa
          Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:38 pm | Permalink

          So sorry BD. You have obviously caught me out that I didn’t read the hint. I should do so as you go to all that trouble, but skipped as I didn’t need it. I promise to do better in the future.

          • Rosie G
            Posted July 20, 2013 at 4:41 pm | Permalink

            Of course. Thank you Merusa. Also guilty as charged
            Thank you to setter and to BD whose hints are always much appreciated

  16. Little Dave
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 5:26 pm | Permalink

    Evening folks. I found this quite tough going to be frank but probably not as tough as the Australians are currently finding Lord’s. 27a was really nice. Much more challenging than the usual Saturday test. Thanks to the setter and for the review. Lord’s tomorrow to see us bowl them out.

  17. Derek
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    Enjoyed this puzzle.

    Faves : 9a, 20a, 27a, 29a, 2d, 4d, 8d & 11d.

    Mixed weather today – AM sky was overcast so temperature was bearable – PM gradually cleared up so back to hot conditions.

    Dinner tonight : lamb chops & frites ( finish of Chinon) then frambozen & slagroom (rasps & whipped cream).

    Lunch was Scottish – Nairn’s rough oatcakes coated with MacKay’s blueberry & blackberry preserve washed down with Mango Dream!

  18. angel
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 6:56 pm | Permalink

    I too found this really hard work for a Saturday offering and not particularly amusing. Needed lots of hints so thanks Dave for those. ****/** for me.

  19. weekendwanda
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 8:15 pm | Permalink

    Also finished early this morning in one sitting. Had the same problem as others with the Guv/Guy dilemma. Thought it may have been my eyes or a fault on my paper but clearly not. Got the answer any way as it fitted well with guy. 9 20 29a favourites and 3 and 17d. Last ones in were 1a and 4d. Then mucked up the grid by putting one answer in wrong place. Once I have written in the squares I seem to lose track of the numbers. Used the BRB to check a couple of things but did not need the hints. Glad of explanation for 11d. as did not know that the author wrote that book – but the answer was obvious. Should also mention 15a as I am a trustee of the organization contained within the answer. Thanks setter, BD, and as ever you all for your contributions

  20. Kath
    Posted July 20, 2013 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

    Does anyone else think it’s odd that so many of us were slow with 12a? It was one of my last answers too and yet it’s probably one of the simplest clues. If in doubt blame the weather conditions . . . whatever they are – too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry, too windy or whatever!

    • Posted July 20, 2013 at 11:09 pm | Permalink

      I certainly didn’t even consider providing a hint as I thought it was a gimme.

      • una
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 1:03 am | Permalink

        “a gimme “, do you play golf?

        • Posted July 21, 2013 at 1:07 am | Permalink

          Never, and I don’t watch it on TV either.

          • una
            Posted July 21, 2013 at 1:31 am | Permalink

            Me neither, but I have only ever heard that phrase use by golfers.

    • weekendwanda
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 9:54 am | Permalink

      Perhaps because you were looking for a girl’s name. it was not one of my first in, but no real problem as I had the last letter which made it a “gimme”

  21. una
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 12:03 am | Permalink

    Something has gone awry with my on line version of the puzzle and it refuses to let me type in solutions !Now I am reasonably sure my 15a is correct but that means that what I though was a perfectly good ans to 3d must be incorrect.Is 3d (1) iron for 5, and (2) a ******************* ? [censored!]

    • Posted July 21, 2013 at 12:12 am | Permalink

      Your 3d is correct, but please don’t post alternative clues.

      • una
        Posted July 21, 2013 at 1:00 am | Permalink

        Thanks for replying, sorry about alternative clue, my rather slow typing made our comments overlap.

    • una
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 12:15 am | Permalink

      worked it out for myself, 3d was correct. Thanks to setter and BD.

  22. Chris
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 9:22 am | Permalink

    Can someone please explain why the answer to 9a is what it is please. Many thanks

    • gazza
      Posted July 21, 2013 at 10:09 am | Permalink

      9a Group bent on dominating the old woman’s street (6,4)
      Split the answer you have as (2’1,7) and the reason will be apparent.

  23. Cruisenuts96
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 11:06 pm | Permalink

    Still struggling with3d! Got first word. Any nudge appreciated. Thanks.

  24. una
    Posted July 21, 2013 at 11:51 pm | Permalink

    iron( 5) and where reporters are found , if I go any further i’ll be censored.

    • una
      Posted July 22, 2013 at 12:39 am | Permalink

      the kind of ships where people are in oars ?

  25. Cruisenuts96
    Posted July 22, 2013 at 7:42 am | Permalink

    Thanks Una