DT 27100

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27100

Hints and tips by scchua

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BD Rating – Difficulty **Enjoyment ***

Another enjoyable puzzle, with only the last handful to slow down the solving pace, though after getting them, I can’t see why it was so.  Thanks to setter (Jay?).  Therefore a 2.5* difficulty/3* enjoyment for me.  My CODs were 13 down, followed by 21 down.

P.S. If you still find the mechanics of the hints a mystery, you should read the following, which should help in understanding.

Definitions are underlined in the clues (in blue).

Words in blue are lifted from the clues.

Italicised words are instructions for constructing the answer. Parentheses following these enclose the indicators from the clues. Eg. Reversal of(up, in a down clue).

[xxx;yyy] denotes that a synonym for xxx or yyy is required.

{
}
are used to give the order of construction. Eg. Reversal of(up, in a down clue) AB + C is different from Reversal of(up, in a down clue) {AB + C}.

Please leave a comment telling us what you thought. You can also add your assessment by selecting from one to five stars at the bottom of the post.

Definitions are underlined in the clues.

Across
7    Something to wear two times? (7)

{DOUBLET} : Cryptic defn:  Something to wear over the upper body.  Two T(ime)s) gives TT.  The answer also means a pair of like things.

8    Going without a bite after onset of fever (7)

{FASTING} : A + [a bite, eg. by an insect] placed after(after) the initial letter of(onset of) “fever” – “bite” does double duty here.

10    Drew in less developed area of desolation (10)

{WILDERNESS} : Anagram of(developed) DREW IN LESS.

11    Slow very nearly becomes fast (4)

{LENT} : [a musical direction to play slowly] minus its last letter(very nearly).

Answer: A religious period of going without a bite.

12    Oppose working during cold weather feature (8)

{CONFRONT} : [working;not off] contained in(during) { abbrev. for “cold” + [a weather feature;the interface between two dissimilar air masses, being either hot or cold] }.

14    Acquired rights, finally, on popular bars (6)

{INGOTS} : [acquired;obtained] + last letter of(finally) “rights” placed after(on, in an across clue) [popular;in fashion].

15    Potentially make a profit from Roman gear pinched by substitute (5,2,4)

{STAND TO GAIN} : [Roman gear;an item of clothing in Ancient Rome] contained in(pinched by) [a substitute, especially for an actor].

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19    Leave day before tree’s destroyed (6)

{DESERT} : Abbrev. for “day” placed before(before) anagram of(destroyed) TREE’S.

Answer: To leave, eg. a sinking ship.

20    Do better than bodyguard for criminal overloaded with executive staff (3-5)

{TOP-HEAVY} : [to do better than;to best] + [bodyguard for a criminal;one hired to intimidate others by his presence].

Answer: Figuratively, descriptive of an organisation with too many chiefs. Literally …..

Q:  Why does she have skinny legs?  A:  Are you kidding?  Nothing grows in the shade.  (Sorry if you’ve heard that one before.)

22    Beer bellies may give you piles (4)

{POTS} : Double defn: 1st: Bellies as a result of lots of beer; and 2nd: Lots and lots;piles of something, especially money.  An elaboration of the clue surface….”especially if you sit too long on the bar stool.”

23    Honest sailor loves naked company administrators (5-5)

{ABOVE-BOARD} : [abbrev. for an able-bodied seaman] + “loves” minus its outermost letters(naked) + [company administrators;directors collectively].

25    Coppers must welcome a new act of atonement (7)

{PENANCE} : [coppers;small units of British currency] containing(must welcome) { A + abbrev. for “new”}.

26    Collects people who stump up to cross river (7)

{PRAYERS} : [people who stump up money;those who foot the bill] containing(to cross) abbrev. for “river”.

Defn: Plural of any of the short supplications in a Western church service.

Down
1    Keep tabs on  screen (7)

{MONITOR} : Double defn: 1st: To keep tabs on;to watch closely; and 2nd: That part of your computer that holds the screen.

2    A posh young lady once returned to get tucked up (4)

{ABED} : A + reversal of(returned) [short for a posh young lady once;one who has reached the age of maturity and is ceremoniously introduced into society as an adult – does “once” signify the ceremony is not in practice anymore, or does it signify that she is young no more?].

Defn: Nothing to do with food, but with rest.

3    Eccentric wanting party underneath waterfall (6)

{WEIRDO} : [a party;a social function] placed below(underneath, in a down clue) [a waterfall;a low dam in a river over which water flows].

4    Annoying hospital, wanting a second dressing for arm (8)

{HASSLING} : Abbrev. for “hospital” plus(wanting) A + [abbrev. for “second”;unit of time] + [a dressing for arm;a bandage to suspend or support an injured arm – I’m not sure if this is synonymous with “dressing”, which is specifically placed over a wound.]

5    Get atlas out crossing motorway, seeing pillar pointing up (10)

{STALAGMITE} : Anagram of(out) GET ATLAS containing(crossing) [letters that look like the abbrev. for the major English motorway running north-south].

6    One refusal covers idiot’s vacuity (7)

{INANITY} : Roman numeral for “one” + [an expression of refusal;counterpart of “aye”] containing(covers) [short for one of the many common names for an idiot]

9    Amends made for poverty, with right to replace leader (11)

{RESTITUTION} : [a state of utter poverty;lack of means of subsistence] with [abbrev. for “right”] replacing its initial letter(leader).

13    Time of year for pastime requiring punctuation and space? (7,3)

{FATHER’S DAY} : Cryptic defn: Reference to “pastime” modified with punctuation (an apostrophe) and a space (pa’s time).

16    Teachers incubate bird (8)

{NUTHATCH} : [abbrev. for the British organisation of teachers] + [to incubate eggs].

17    The lower socioeconomic groups took part in election, getting committed (7)

{DEVOTED} : [in Britain, the two lowest socioeconomic groups respectively, in the classification system originally created by the National Readership Survey] + [took part in an election;cast your ballot].

18    Done ‘urt by method of delivery? (7)

{OVERARM} : [done;finished with] + [hurt;damage] minus its first letter aspirate, similar to “hurt/’urt”.

21    Wordsworth lines? Yes (6)

{POETRY} : [what Wordsworth was;writer of verse] + [abbrev. for the form of transport running on metal lines].

Answer: Yes, what Wordsworth’s lines are.

24    Love city and kiss stone! (4)

{ONYX} : [the letter that looks like zero;love in tennis scores] + [abbrev. of northeastern American city] + [written symbol for a kiss].


The Quick crossword pun: {wreck} + {hoarders} = {recorders}


58 Comments

  1. Hrothgar
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    In hindsight, annoyed that I struggled but we got there unaided.
    Last in, to my shame, 22a and 13d, a brilliant clue.
    Many thanks Jay? and scchua.

  2. eXternal
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    I thought this very enjoyable. Shame 21d was so weak. However, 13d is a brilliant clue. Thanks setter and scchua

  3. Colmce
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 10:34 am | Permalink

    Fairly straight forward, got a bit stuck on 25a, every type of copper except the right one…then it dropped.

    Thanks for the review, not needed today.

    Thanks to the setter.

    Valentines day tomorrow, what shall I get her, a new detail sander or a new cordless drill?

    • pommers
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

      I once bought pommette an anchor for Christmas, gift wrapped and everything :grin:

      • steve_the_beard
        Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:20 pm | Permalink

        pommers

        That’s nothing, for Christmas 2011 my wife had an emergency appendectomy. Yes, it was a surprise :-)

    • steve_the_beard
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:18 pm | Permalink

      Colmce

      Are you a “Wizard of Id” fan? If not, have a look at today’s comic at
      http://www.gocomics.com/comic/explore/1350127/12

      And don’t be a tightwad, the correct answer is “both”!

  4. Brian
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    Three star for diff for me. Finished but still can’t work out Scchas hints. So complicated!
    Didn’t get the reference to yes in 21d but the religious references were at least balanced by a decent cricketing term in 18d.
    Quite enjoyable if tricky.
    Thx to Jay for a challenging morning.
    PS ignore my star vote of 1, finger slipped!

    • Posted February 13, 2013 at 10:58 am | Permalink

      If you vote again it changes your vote.

  5. Sweet William
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Snow here so time for the puzzle and needed a hint to finish 17d. Was trying to put DE inside election ! Thank you Jay and Scchua for your review and helpful hint. An enjoyable challenge. I thought it was more difficult than the last 2 days – and I am now back in the Clueless Club.

  6. Kevmcc
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    Although I finished this, I still don’t understand the answer to 13d.

    • moggy
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:14 am | Permalink

      Pa’s time – add an apostrophe & a space to pastime.

      • Kevmcc
        Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

        Oh, I see! Thanks.

        • Merusa
          Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:47 pm | Permalink

          Me, too. I couldn’t get it, even with the hint. Now I do, thanks

      • Amanda
        Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:12 pm | Permalink

        Oh thank you! I got the answer but I couldn’t work out why!

      • Annidrum
        Posted February 13, 2013 at 5:34 pm | Permalink

        Thanks Moggy I couldn’t work out why the answer was what it was either!
        D’OH. Clever clue.

  7. Only fools
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:21 am | Permalink

    Enjoyed this a good deal,held up slightly in SE corner by imagining 21d was more complicated than it actually was .favs 13,16,18d
    Just starting to snow in N Yorks .
    Thanks very much .

  8. Lord Luvvaduck
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:23 am | Permalink

    Clever clues but too much of a struggle to be particularly enjoyable. Not helped by looking for non-existent anagrams and putting the perfectly legitimate ‘twinset’ in as a first answer, for 7a. Definitely ***+ difficulty for us.

    • Roger
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

      twinset for me too.

      Found this one very tricky with too many holes.

      • Lord Luvvaduck
        Posted February 13, 2013 at 1:36 pm | Permalink

        Glad I’m not alone.

        • Angela
          Posted February 13, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

          You are not alone – we got twinset as well! :)

          • gazza
            Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:03 pm | Permalink

            Angela K-M,
            Your comment required moderation because you’ve added a bit to your alias. Both should work from now on.

          • steve_the_beard
            Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

            Twinset was my first one in, too :-)

            Now you know why I use a pencil and a rubber…

    • Kath
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

      I started off with braces then found it wasn’t long enough – the logic being thingies that hold trousers up and orthodontic stuff. Oh dear!

    • Amanda
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:15 pm | Permalink

      Me too, until I got 2d.

      • Amanda
        Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:16 pm | Permalink

        Twinset, I mean!

  9. Big Boab
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:25 am | Permalink

    Very enjoyable puzzle and an equally enjoyable review, many thanks to setter and sschua.

  10. una
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:26 am | Permalink

    Some of the clues were very good, like 24d, but others obscure such as 18d, not the word itself but the way it was clued.Collects as a prayer I had totally forgotten. Thanks to Jay and scchua.

    • una
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 5:30 pm | Permalink

      I get 18d now.

  11. Beaver
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Agree with the**/*** rating, thanks Scchua for the pics as usual-where did the lady in 18d come from,not quite beach volleyball.Have to admit i could’nt work out the wordplay for 13d,more like a toughie clue.What about ‘screen lizard’ as an alternative clue to 1d? could have had a pic of Brian Ferry!

  12. Miffypops
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

    Struggled with 22ac until I realised I had one, albeit small. I got 13d but struggled to see why the answer related to the clue (often the way with answers in The Toughie) but the penny has finally dropped. nice puzzle. Thanks to the setter.

  13. Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

    Struggled with 11 a for no obvious reason. *** and *** from me. Regds to all.

  14. Jezza
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    I found this slightly trickier than normal for a Wednesday. 3*/3* for me.
    Thanks to Jay, and to scchua for the review.

    scchua, re 7a, I thought ‘two times’ for implying DOUBLE T(imes) ?

    • skempie
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

      Exactly what I thought for 7A – seemed pretty straight forward to me.

    • crypticsue
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:33 pm | Permalink

      That’s how I saw 7a too.

  15. skempie
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

    Nice puzzle today. Thought 23A was an excellent clue. 13D was good, but not one of my favourites.

    As an aside, is there a mistake in the Quickie? Surely 22D should be ad lib and 26A should be anecdote, but they don’t fit together

    • Kevmcc
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

      Ad hoc?

    • Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

      22d in the Quickie – Improvised = AD HOC

    • skempie
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:44 pm | Permalink

      OK< thought I must have made a mistook. Thanks guys

  16. pommers
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:30 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable puzzle from the Wednesday Wizard.

    No stand-out favourites but 13d is clever IMHO and, unlike eXternal, I quite liked 21d.

    Thanks to Jay and scchua.

  17. crypticsue
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:37 pm | Permalink

    2.5*/3* for me – definitely much trickier than a ‘normal’ Jay. Thanks to him and scchua too.

    The Toughie takes a while to sort out too.

  18. Kath
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:47 pm | Permalink

    Great crossword – 3* for difficulty and nearer 4* for enjoyment.
    I started off really well, slowed down and then ground to a complete halt with my last three – 12a and 1 and 13d. Unfortunately each of those affected one of the others – total standstill for ages and almost gave in and looked at hints but, yet again, ‘perservation’ paid off.
    Just how sneaky (and brilliant, in my opinion anyway) was 13d? I think I’m starting to see ‘crickety’ clues when they’re not – 26a because of ‘stump’! :roll:
    I liked far too many clues to put them all down so will just pick a few – 11 and 22a and 9, 16 and 21d. Absolute favourite was 13d.
    With thanks to Jay and scchua.

  19. Merusa
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    This is for Poppy : Cover Poppy’s ears so she can’t hear this. Banana Joe took top dog last night. He strutted his stuff like the pro he is and left the big boys at the post, though how they judge a little ‘un like that against, say, an English Sheepdog, is bizarre. Anyway, he won and that’s all he cares about.

    • Poppy
      Posted February 13, 2013 at 1:27 pm | Permalink

      That is super news, Merusa – thanks so much for letting me know! What a grand little chap he looks. I think Poppy must have got wind of the news somehow, as her usual ‘job’ of bringing me the mail each day from the front doormat, was rather fevered today, & having brought it safely through (inc. quite a heavy package which was as big as she), then started taking it all back to the mat again…. Definitely a sparkle in her eye :-D

  20. Michael
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    Yes, quite good – I still don’t get 21d – What Wordsworth was or did, fair enough – but I don’t get the ‘yes’!

    • Posted February 13, 2013 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog Michael

      Scchua has answered that – POET (Wordsworth) + RY (railway/lines); Wordsworth lines are POETRY (Yes)

  21. Poppy
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

    Enjoyed this very much until I got completely stuck on the SW corner, and needed hints to finish. Took me a while to sort out 21d, even though I live with one! And didn’t know anything about D and E as socioeconomic groups. Seemed to be quite a few religious references, which presumably reflects the fact it’s Ash Wednesday today (for some). Hopefully Sweet William will have liked 16d, in the snowy context of Bamburgh, & having seen one recently. Liked 15a as well. Many thanks to setter and Scchua.

  22. neveracrossword
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:06 pm | Permalink

    There are puzzles I can do on an empty stomach. This one required a good lunch before the pennies dropped on a few of the clues in the SE corner. – so I agree with scchua’s star ratings.

  23. Heno
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to Jay & scchua for the review & hints. Same as Poppy, enjoyed it a lot, but got stuck in the SW corner, needed 4 hints, so was 3*/4*. Favourites were 15a & 3, 5 & 21d. Had a nice run this morning, but still slushy underfoot.

  24. Catherine
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable puzzle today. Just the right amount of difficulty for me – hard but not unsolvable! Some nice misdirections which add to the enjoyment when you solve them.
    Thanks to scchua and to the setter.

  25. Jay
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:38 pm | Permalink

    Many thanks scchua for your excellent analysis, and to all for you comments

  26. Merusa
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

    Funnily enough, the puzzles that are deemed more difficult, seem easier to me. I probably am on same wavelength as Jay. I got 13d, knew it was some parent but no idea which one or why it was right. I settled on papa as had 12a and it fit. I did enjoy, thanks to scchua for hints tho not really needed.

  27. steve_the_beard
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:31 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to Jay for a very enjoyable and nicely-themed puzzle, and to scchua for the Dolly joke (new to me!).

    Last one in was 1D, to my shame (why shame? Well, I’ve been programming since 1980 and I use one every day of the year…).

  28. scchua
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 4:52 pm | Permalink

    Before I go 2down….Thanks Jay, for dropping by and thanks to all commenters, maybe even the predictable Brain (more or less), who is still struggling with a 6 letter combination, let alone the cryptic clues and complicated hints.  Keep at it, Brian!  But it’s a sure bet that if every week you merely engage in hand-wringing and general beefing, neither you nor I will be getting anwhere.  I had made an offer some time back that if you gave an example of a hint that you couldn’t understand, I’d take you through the process of using it; but have received no response (I wonder why I’m not surprised by that?).  Oh well!

  29. 2Kiwis
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 5:39 pm | Permalink

    Found this one a really good puzzle with many clever clues, but the stand-out favourite for us (and for many others it seems) was 13d.
    Thanks Jay and Scchua.

  30. Annidrum
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 5:49 pm | Permalink

    Really enjoyable puzzle with a good many penny dropping moments. Managed without the hints & even remembered from a previous crossword that a collect was a prayer . Good brain workout thanks to Jay.

  31. Derek
    Posted February 13, 2013 at 6:32 pm | Permalink

    Interesting puzzle!

    Faves : 7a, 15a, 20a, 5d, 16d & 24d.

    Thought that the word play for 13d was rather oblique!

    Very cold here in NL!

    • andy
      Posted February 14, 2013 at 12:31 am | Permalink

      very cold here today Derek, can cope with snow but the freezing rain (not forecast) has been ghastly, thank you for your choice of wine with grilled salmon, a case is on the way.

      • Poppy
        Posted February 14, 2013 at 9:06 am | Permalink

        Should we all raise a glass ! :-)