DT 26017

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 26017

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BD Rating – Difficulty ** Enjoyment ***

This pleasant puzzle shouldn’t give those grey cells too much exercise this morning (but you can always do the Toughie!).   A couple of minor issues will be covered in the review.

Following the accidental success of Monday’s placeholder posting, I have added this while still preparing the review – feel free to discuss via the comments.

You can add your assessment by selecting from one to five stars at the bottom of the post.

Across
1a Writer revised arty tie-in for restrictive institution (12)
{PENITENTIARY} – combine PEN (writer) and an anagram (revised) of ARTY TIE-IN for an American restrictive institution

8a Artist fashionable after good month at university (7)
{GAUGUIN} – this famous impressionist artist is a charade of IN (fashionable) following G(ood) AUG (month) and U(niversity)

9a Different custom widely spread (7)
{DIFFUSE} – put together DIFF(erent) and USE (custom) and you get a synonym for widely spread

11a Move of one susceptible to charmer? (7)
{SLITHER} – a rather weak cryptic definition of the movement of a snake

12a Computer information in colour, we hear, published (4-3)
{READ-OUT} – this computer information is pronounced as the present tense, but the homophone only works in the past tense (isn’t English a wonderful language!) – READ (RED / colour, we hear) and OUT (published) – there is some possible justification for this if you regard a the homophone as an element of the wordplay which leads to the word READ, but I don’t like it at all

13a Hostile type from Yemen rioted (5)
{ENEMY} – a hostile type is an anagram (rioted) of YEMEN

14a Girl with poet — source of drugs? (9)
{DISPENSER} – it’s that girl DI again and she is followed by poet Edmund SPENSER to give a container that gives out drugs in prearranged quantities

16a A meal Neil planned for battle site (2,7)
{EL ALAMEIN} – an anagram (planned) of A MEAL NEIL gives this famous WWII battle site – woeful surface reading!

19a Bend on road not caught — sign for caution? (5)

{AMBER} – (C)AMBER (bend on road) without the C (not Caught) is a sign for caution – when I first looked at this my reaction was that camber is not a bend in the road, but on looking at it again, the clue states bend on road which covers the definition “a slight convexity on an upper surface (as on a road, a beam, the deck of a ship, the wing section of an aeroplane, etc)” and I think that the misdirection is permissible.

The etymology is interesting – Merriam-Webster (see the link in Yoshik’s comment):   French cambrer, from Middle French cambre curved, from Latin camur; Chambers: French cambre, from Latin camerāre to vault – you pays your money and ….

21a Two lines here in France in appeal not permitted (7)
{ILLICIT} – put LL (two Lines) and ICI (here in France) inside IT (sex appeal) to get a word meaning not permitted

23a Have strong effect on reporter’s introduction? (7)
{IMPRESS} – a synonym for to have strong effect is how a reporter might introduce himself “I’m Press”

24a Strong flow from old bishop in temporary home (7)
{TORRENT} – a strong flow (of illegal downloads!) is made up from O(ld) and RR (Right Reverend / bishop) inside TENT (temporary home)

25a Joy shown by nephew, maybe, right away (7)
{ELATION} – to get a word meaning joy, take (R)ELATION (nephew, maybe) and remove the R (Right away)

26a Leave hastily and live in a monastery perhaps (4,1,7)
{BEAT A RETREAT} – a nice double definition in which the cryptic part is “be at a retreat”

Down
1d Woman from French city with family (7)
{PAULINE} – you get her by adding PAU (French city) to LINE (family) – two of my least favourite things in the same clue!

2d Violent thug entering denial? That’s bad (7)
{NAUGHTY} – put an anagram (violent) of THUG inside NAY (denial) and you get a word meaning bad

3d Century obtained with game in Kent venue (9)
{TONBRIDGE} – a charade of TON (century, typically in cricket) and BRIDGE (game) gives a Kent venue (for a cricket match?)

4d Businessman, a director, concealing lowest point (5)
{NADIR} – the lowest point is hidden inside (concealing) businessmaN, A DIRector

5d Swell pad in row left out (7)
{INFLATE} – a word meaning to swell is derived from FLAT (pad / home) inside (L)INE (row) without the L (left out) – one of those where you have to work out the wordplay from the answer, rather than the other way around

6d Harsh sound of rude swearing (7)
{RAUCOUS} – this word meaning harsh sounds like RAW (rude) CUSS (swearing) – it hadn’t occurred to me until reading the comments that this might not work everywhere as a homophone

7d Breakfast dish, say, with scent I’d beg to be cooked (4,8)
{EGGS BENEDICT} – this posh breakfast dish is made by combining EG (for example / say) with an anagram (to be cooked) of SCENT I’D BEG

10d Adventurous record with advertising I celebrate (12)
{ENTERPRISING} – I liked this charade of ENTER (record) PR (Public Relations / advertising) and I SING (I celebrate) to get a synonym for adventurous

15d Feeling transmitted about new magazine (9)
{SENTIMENT} – this feeling comes from putting SENT (transmitted) around N(ew) and TIME (magazine)

17d A learner taken in by great rogue in general (2,5)
{AT LARGE} – start with A and then put L(earner) inside an anagram (rogue) of GREAT to get a phrase meaning in general

18d Very grey Greek? (7)
{ANCIENT} – a fairly limp double definition: very grey for ANCIENT is bad enough, but the term Ancients for the Greeks and Romans is more usually in the plural

19d A father lacking love and quiet calm (7)
{APPEASE} – start with A P(O)P (a father) without the O (lacking love) and add EASE (quiet) to get a word meaning to calm ­– before you ask, yes ease = quiet is in Chambers

20d Famous flier moved Brit with Leo (7)
{ BLÉRIOT } – the first man to fly across the English Channel (he was obviously desperate to escape from France) is an anagram (moved) of BRIT and LEO

22d I teach some Bantu to Rwandans (5)
{TUTOR} – a person who teaches is hidden (some) inside BanTU TO Rwandans

Thanks for all your comments – I will try this experiment of posting a placeholder again.  Even more comments are, of course, welcome.

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35 Comments

  1. castorfool
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 10:45 am | Permalink

    12a
    A bit iffy in the homophone!

    • Posted August 26, 2009 at 10:48 am | Permalink

      You will not be surprised that 12a was one of the issues I mentioned – more later.

    • Vince
      Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:06 am | Permalink

      You could include 6d in that comment!

      • Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:25 am | Permalink

        The trouble with homophones is that sometimes they work for some accents and not others – as a southerner 6d works for me.

        • Vince
          Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:48 am | Permalink

          Perhaps compilers should consider accents when using homophones??

          • mary
            Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:55 am | Permalink

            if compilers had to consider absolutely everything we would never get our puzzles, we as potential solvers have to ‘give and take’ maybe?? :)

        • Nubian
          Posted August 26, 2009 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

          Oddly enough Big Dave, being a Northener, it also works for me !

          • Posted August 26, 2009 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

            I suspect that some might pronounce it R-ow-cuss, but the online Chambers has a girl’s voice pronouncing it somewhere in between.

  2. Posted August 26, 2009 at 10:54 am | Permalink

    Good morning Big Dave and everyone – Had to rate this puzzle as poor as its the first time I have ever completed it before anyone posted the answers! Hurrah for me – but it must be easy if I’ve beaten all you seasoned “Pro’s!” LOL… Anyways – Onwards and Upwards – Catch everyone later.. Regards.. Dodger

    • Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:05 am | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog Roger

      Perhaps you would like to try reviewing one of these puzzles! It takes many times longer than it does to just fill in the answers.

      As far as rating is concerned, I have found that my enjoyment of a puzzle is not always related to the solving time or difficulty – that’s why difficulty is assessed separately from enjoyment. I certainly wouldn’t say this one was poor.

      • Lea
        Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:43 am | Permalink

        BD
        I would like to add my tuppence worth and say thank you to all the reviewers – without their help a lot of us wouldn’t be able to satisfy our curiosity as to why an answer fits. The reviews are extremely well done and very much appreciated.

  3. Barrie
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:08 am | Permalink

    It must be be. I finished yesterdays without too much trouble but I am really stuck with todays. Only done 7 clues so far!!

  4. mary
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:35 am | Permalink

    morning Dave, obviously reviewing a puzzle takes much longer than solving it, not necessarily so in my case mind, i often take all day :) you and all the bloggers are much appreciated, have completed today , particularly like 26a, some I found tough due to my lack of general knowledge :( keep up the good work…. love the site

  5. bigboab
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Very easy but also very enjoyable.

  6. bigmacsub
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:49 am | Permalink

    Hi all, 1st timer to the comments.

    Not impressed with today, 11a poor, 19a just plain wrong a camber is not the bend, 18d weak, 6d raw cuss? hmmm, 19d iffy. 17d obscure interpretation.

    Apart from that, fine!

    • Posted August 26, 2009 at 11:55 am | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog bigmacsub

      19a was the other issue that I mentioned. I will elaborate later, but it just about works if you consider the width rather than the length of the road.

  7. mary
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

    can anyone please explain 18d…i’ve got the only answer i can get to fit but cannot see where it comes from really

    • Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

      It’s one of those double definitions where the two definitions are very closely related. The Greeks and Romans are often referred to as the Ancients, but usually in the plural. Only 2 out of ten for this clue!

      • mary
        Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

        thanks Dave… that what i thought :)

    • Libellule
      Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:12 pm | Permalink

      Mary,
      Looks like ancient, as in old, and therefore very gray, and then ancient as in ancient Greece (greek)

      • mary
        Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

        thanks Libellule, its the answer i’ve got but i thought there had to be more to it…shouldn’t always look for complications :)

        • Libellule
          Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:20 pm | Permalink

          Hence Dave’s 2 out of 10 :-)

  8. Yoshik
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:21 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable.

    One or two to think about, but some nice clues e.g 26a

    As for 19a across it is perfect clue. Colour of warning and also see this link: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/camber

    • Lea
      Posted August 26, 2009 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

      There is an even better definition relating to this clue in the Oxford Dictionary.
      “a tilt built into a road at a bend or curve, enabling vehicles to maintain speed.”

  9. Barrie
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Really stuck on 3d, all I can make is teneriffe but can’t make that fit the clue in any way. Any help would be appreciated.

    • Libellule
      Posted August 26, 2009 at 1:16 pm | Permalink

      Its a town in Kent, another word for century could be ton, and then add a card game.

  10. Barrie
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

    Thanks a ‘ton’. Got so hung up on C that I lost sight of the clue!

  11. Phil
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 4:06 pm | Permalink

    I really enjoyed today’s puzzle a lot. Strangely my printer missed the last three or four clues for across and down this morning, so I filled in the top first. Actually was a good technique as I just focused and did them in order. I thought 1d was the 4d of this puzzle – but many really enjoyable clues.

  12. Boxy
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 4:17 pm | Permalink

    An ingenius way to get more comments Big Dave.

    Everyone’s looking to the site in the morning, seeing the day’s DTxxxxx and clicking the link. Then, seeing the ‘placeholder’, they decide to comment on their ongoing battle with the days crossword.

    Obviously, less people comment afterwards since they’ve by now then finished it. Much more interactive knowing people are still working away.

  13. SmokeyNL
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Recently found this site and am already hooked. Great work.

    I thought today’s was relatively easy (unlike today’s Toughie that I am still struggling with)

    The only ones I didn’t like were:

    18d very grey = ancient? (I’m ancient but have a full head of brown hair)

    1d although I got it I didn’t know pau was a French city and was focussed on the usual kin for family rather than line

    Great site …… back to the Toughie !!!

    • gazza
      Posted August 26, 2009 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

      Hi SmokeyNL and welcome to the blog.

  14. Barrie
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t really like todays much, too many wishy-washy clues like 25a and 1d. 26a was OK but 6d was ghastly.

  15. little Dave
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

    Didn’t enjoy today’s – some weak and vague clues. Either that or my brain cells were struggling (too much time spent on the underground I guess).

  16. Will
    Posted August 26, 2009 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    I didn’t have a problem with 6d. The homophone is in Dickens a lot for example. It is at least as accessible or familiar as the famous flier.

  17. old bill
    Posted August 27, 2009 at 5:55 pm | Permalink

    I found this one very tricky! Maybe i wasn’t in the right frame of mind…

    Diff = different?

    Appeal = sex appeal = it

    I would never have got them.

    Cheers!
    Bill