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Toughie 3784

Toughie No 3784 by Elgar

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BD Rating – Toughie Difficulty ***** – Enjoyment *****

A proper Friday Toughie but not quite as fiendish as some Elgar puzzles can be.  When I left the kitchen table after solving the crossword to go and prepare the blog post, I said to Mr CS that there were only two clues I didn’t understand (which is quite good going for an Elgar) but as I typed the hints, things became clearer and I just hope my interpretations are correct.

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Across

1a/9a    Prepared for Revolution, pale Louis emerged, so did state ____? (5,3,2,6)
APRES MOI LE DELUGE Louis XV used this phrase to say that he didn’t care what happens after he was dead.  Apparently, his mistress, Madam de Pompadour copied him when remonstrated with about the extravagances of the court.  An anagram (prepared for revolution) of PALE LOUIS EMERGED

9a           See 1 Across

10a         Legal beagle deprived of fine cheese (4)
BRIE Remove the abbreviation for Fine from a slang term for a solicitor or barrister (legal eagle)

11a         Trump quickly agreed legal case insurance for high flier (8,4)
PRESSURE SUIT An abbreviation for the position currently held by Trump, an informal word of agreement and a legal case

13a         As Nelson, returning from the Canaries (nothing like northernmost Africa) (3-5)
ONE-ARMED How Nelson was after returning from a battle at Santa Cruz de Tenerife in the Canary Islands – the letter representing noting and an abbreviated phrase that might describe northernmost Africa (3,4)

15a         Summer colour? Ruler’s left changes for November (6)
SUNTAN Change the abbreviation for Left in a Muslim ruler to the letter represented by November in the NATO Phonetic Alphabet

16a         Trial for series censoring one story … (4)
PLOT The Roman numeral for one is removed (censoring) from a trial for a broadcast (trial for series)

17a         … particular page oozing unpleasantness (5)
PICKY The abbreviation for Page and an informal adjective indicating something being sickly-sweet or unpleasant

18a         Cuts reclusive aviator from radio announcement (4)
HEWS A homophone (from radio announcement) of the surname of a reclusive American aviator

20a         Take exception to something (6)
OBJECT Always nice when Elgar gives us a nice straightforward double definition in amongst the brain-manglers!

21a         Unimportant extra too often overcomplicated (8)
FOOTNOTE An anagram (overcomplicated) of TOO OFTEN

23a         Somehow repeatedly earn repute, but not as businessperson (12)
ENTREPRENEUR An anagram (somehow) of EaRN EaRN (repeatedly indicating the need for two earns) REPUTE but with (not) the As – Elgar usually catches me out with these ‘hidden’ letters clues but not this time!

26a         Just Spooner’s vulgar joint (4)
ONLY How the Reverend might talk about a vulgar leg joint

27a/28a Cliff face, safe before my dad’s gathering (3,5,3,2,3)
THE PETER PAN OF POP A slang name for THE face ‘gathering’ another for a safe, the result then followed by an informal name for a father

28a         See 27 Across

Down

2d/16d Gear a native mountain climbing team try to reassemble (8,8)
PERSONAL PROPERTY A in the sense of for each, a native or inhabitant, a mountain, part of a team mountain-climbing together and an anagram (to reassemble) of TRY

3d           Plant that might receive deaf trumpeter’s trumpet? (9-3)
ELEPHANTS-EAR Where a deaf large land mammal might put an aid to hearing (trumpet)  We have some of these plants in the garden and I have to say that they didn’t enjoy this summer’s drought at all

4d           Employment in quiet exhibition centre (6)
MUSEUM Employment inserted into an interjected request for silence

5d           Smith and Young, say, with these troubles? (4)
ILLS If you add the abbreviation for With to these troubles you get diminutive ways of referring to the American actor Smith and the English singer Young

6d           Probably fish exist as an example (1,4,3)
I DARE SAY The two-letter spelling of a type of fish that often appears in crosswords, a simple way of saying exist and a word indicating an example

7d           Where keepers go to speak African language (4)
ZULU A clue to make the solver smile.   A homophone of where animal keepers would ‘go’

8d/19d Note: college study breaks at any time can be wasted (4,4,8)
MEET ONES WATERLOO Suffer a crushing defeat – A musical note, a public school (college), a slang word meaning to study heard inserted into (breaks) a poetic word meaning ever (at any time) and a slang name for a lavatory

12d         Red-top’s greeting “fiddler” of motoring luxury (8,4)
SUNSHINE ROOF A red-topped newspaper, an informal word of greeting, the Emperor who fiddled while Rome burned and OF (from the clue)

14d         Not so stimulating drink was looking up (5)
DECAF A reversal (up) of a word meaning was looking at

16d         See 2 Down

17d         “Tap tap” is represented thus? (8)
PITAPAT A word used to represent a quick succession of light taps

19d         See 8 Down

22d         State no longer iron-clad sort of conclusion (6)
OREGON Remove (no longer clad) the chemical symbol for iron from the outside of an obvious or inevitable conclusion

24d         To make both ends meet, people will take this further (4)
THEN If you look carefully at words three and four in the clue, you should see that some slang people surround (will take) the solution

25d         Recycling fruit, Doc helped this family to fight (4)
EARP Cycle the first letter of a type of fruit to the end of the word to get the name of the family Doc Holliday helped at the Gunfight at the OK Corral

 

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  1. Certainly a non-fiendish Elgar. Pondering 27/28a took as long as the rest of it and I’m still [pace CS] not convinced about the parsing [its the “the” that doesn’t seem right – tho’ I note Chambers gives “the face” for pan – so what?
    There were enough crackers to earn the 5* for enjoyment: the reclusive aviator at 18a, the “not as” at 23a, the lol 7d and the masterful construction of 8/19d.
    Thanks to Elgar and CSue.

  2. Marginally easier than usual for Elgar (but that’s not saying a lot) – many thanks to the maestro and CS.
    I had most problems with 27/28a — with cliff face and father in the clue my initial thought was to do with the Old Man of Hoy. When 25d and 22d put paid to that idea I had to think again. I’m still not confident of the full parsing – is it saying that the face of my father contains safe?
    My ticks went to 3d, 5d and 12d with my favourite being the LOL 7d.

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