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DT 29427

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 29427

Hints and tips by Mr K

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BD Rating  -  Difficulty *** Enjoyment ****

Hello, everyone.  I found today’s puzzle to be an enjoyable and rewarding solve, with one or two parses requiring some head scratching.  For me, the top half mostly went in smoothly, but things got more tricky when it came to fitting everything in the bottom.  If our setter is reading, perhaps they could take a bow in the comments below (I have my suspicions – a regular who likes to sprinkle their puzzles with GK and include a couple of smooth long anagrams).

In the hints below most indicators are italicized, and precise definitions are underlined.  Clicking on the answer buttons will reveal the answers.  In some hints hyperlinks provide additional explanation or background.  Clicking on a picture will enlarge it or display a bonus illustration.  Please leave a comment telling us how you got on.



1a    Told where pupil might be before education (8)
INFORMED:  Where a pupil might be (2,4) comes before an abbreviation for education 

5a    Result at university -- second in fashion (6)
UPSHOT:  Link together a short word meaning “at university”, the single letter for second, and a word meaning “in fashion” 

9a    Bubbly drunk in Greece? About time (9)
ENERGETIC:  An anagram (drunk) of IN GREECE is wrapped about the physics symbol for time

11a   Enquirer understands only partly -- repeat (5)
RERUN:  The answer is hidden in (… only partly) the remainder of the clue 

12a   Discourteously departs city after game (6)
RUDELY:  The single letter abbreviation for departs and a cathedral city in Cambridgeshire both come after the abbreviation for the national game of New Zealand

13a   The plane trips apparently one never forgets (8)
ELEPHANT:  An anagram (… trips) of THE PLANE 

15a   Bill determines VAT changes (13)
ADVERTISEMENT:  An anagram (… changes) of DETERMINES VAT 

18a   It could describe wheel turning  red, perhaps (13)
REVOLUTIONARY:  Double definition.  Red in its political sense 

22a   Quietly mentioning worshipping (8)
PRAISING:  The single letter musical abbreviation for quietly or softly is followed by mentioning or bringing up 

23a   Deer almost zip over long grass (6)
BAMBOO:  Assemble all but the last letter (almost) of Disney’s animated deer, the letter that looks like zero (zip, informally), and the cricket scoreboard abbreviation for over 

26a   Sound from hooter around middle of shift (5)
NOISE:  The hooter in the middle of your face is wrapped around the middle letter of shIft 

27a   Appear with leaders from newspapers, covering yesterday's crisis (9)
EMERGENCY:  Appear or rise out of something with the initial letters of (leaders from) the next three words in the clue 

28a   Meal includes a new type of pastry (6)
DANISH:  A generic meal contains (includes) both A from the clue and the abbreviation for new 

29a   Lies about working with nuns with no sign of hesitation (8)
CONSISTS:  Chain together the single-letter Latin abbreviation for about or roughly, working or operating, and some nuns with a short word of hesitation deleted (with no sign of hesitation) 



1d    Single church with finest food (3,5)
ICE CREAM:  Put together the Roman one (single), the abbreviation for the Church of England, and finest or best

2d    Cleared fine grass (5)
FREED:  Follow the pencil lead abbreviation for fine with a grass that grows in water 

3d    Soldier's  uniform (7)
REGULAR:  A classic double definition 

4d    Poet heading off for snacks (4)
EATS:  An Irish poet and playwright minus his first letter (heading off

6d    One may swallow this  lie (4,3)
PORK PIE:  A food item is also rhyming slang for a lie 

7d    Albert -- he brewed a hot drink (6,3)
HERBAL TEA:  An anagram (brewed) of ALBERT HE followed by A from the clue 

8d    Teachers' publication holds clear beliefs (6)
TENETS:  The abbreviation for an education publication contains (holds) a word meaning clear of all charges or deductions 

10d   Assembles beds outside room upside-down (8)
COLLECTS:  Some small beds containing (outside) the reversal (upside-down, in a down clue) of a small room in a prison or monastery 

14d   Live one circulating boxing clubs? Fury (8)
VIOLENCE:  An anagram (circulating) of LIVE ONE containing (boxing) the playing card abbreviation for clubs 

16d   Change volume on song and one cuts quality of sound, almost (9)
VARIATION:  Concatenate an abbreviation for volume, an elaborate accompanied song for solo voice, and the Roman one inserted in (one cuts …) all but the last letter (…, almost) of a quality of sound 

17d   My sonny, screwing up small coats, hides? (8)
SYNONYMS:  An anagram (screwing up) of MY SONNY is followed by the clothing abbreviation for small.  The question mark at the end is indicating that the definition here is by example 

19d   Service scooters, we're told (7)
VESPERS:  A homophone (we’re told) of some Italian-made motor scooters 

20d   Oscar classifies fruit (7)
ORANGES:  The letter represented in the NATO phonetic alphabet by Oscar is followed by classifies or ranks 

21d   Observed old tree died (6)
OPINED:  Glue together the abbreviation for old, an evergreen tree, and the genealogical abbreviation for died 

24d   Outlaws around 500 groups (5)
BANDS:  Outlaws or prohibits is wrapped around the Roman numeral for 500 

25d   One very brave Roman leader? Not quite (4)
HERO:  All but the last letter (… not quite) of a Roman-appointed leader of Palestine   


Thanks to today’s setter for a fun solve.  My honourable mentions this week went to 11a, 15a, 29a, 8d, and I had 23a on the top of my podium. Which clues did you like best?


The Quick Crossword pun:  PAR + SUN + SNOWS = PARSON’S NOSE

100 comments on “DT 29427

  1. This started off as a R&W for me, but the SE held me up to make it a solid **.

    I thought 17d was very clever, and that was all I needed to unlock the rest of that corner. My LOI was 29a, the answer being obvious from the wordplay, but “lies”? It’s in the BRB though, second definition, fifth line down!

    Many thanks to the setter and Mr. K.

  2. I found this one quite easy! Was it just me but there seemed to be quite a lot of anagrams?

  3. What a difference from yesterday, quirky fresh and very cryptic, right up my street. I was going great guns until I got held up in the bottom RHS but eventually got there, though without fully parsing 25d.
    Ticks all over the place, I liked 13&18a plus 6&21d in particular but my favourite for the penny drop moment was the excellent 17d,
    Many thanks to the setter (Donnybrook?) and to Mr K for the top notch entertainment.

  4. This one seemed quite straightforward to me but then I love anagrams and GK clues. It was very enjoyable too (1.5*/4*). There were some interesting clues and 17d, 19d and 18a were the best of the bunch for my money. I’m glad JJ mentioned the elastic synonym in 29a. I felt exactly the same. Many thanks to Mr K especially for the video clip of the cats with the bubbles. Many thanks to the setter too.

  5. I must have been right on the wavelength today, but enjoyed it withal. And now I can start painting walls.
    Lots of fun items, 23a, 15a (always cheeky to make an anagram from very common letters).

    My favourite was 17d, because it could screw you up.
    It occurred to me that 25d could also be not quite another Roman leader…..

    Thanks to the setter and Mr K for the extras.

  6. A pleasant romp today. Like MrK I got the top half with little problem, but the rest took more head-scratching. Really liked 13a and 27a. Couldn’t get Nero out of my head for 25d, but plumped for the correct one in the end. Needed parsing help for 23a (I always miss the cricket references), 8d, 16d and 17d. Thanks to setter and MrK.

  7. A tale of two halves for me, too, but a really crafty puzzle especially down in the SE corner. where I finished my solve with 17d, my COTD. Like Mr K, I also enjoyed 23a, as well as 27 and 29a in the SE. Elsewhere, I liked 5a. 18a, and 19d. Thanks to Mr K and today’s setter. 2.5* / 4*

    Toughie is quite tough today, IMHO.

  8. Enjoyable solve and a **/**** for me, struggled to parse 23a zip-thanks 2Ks- and for the pics including Sting on his 19d!loved the film.
    Not sure about the synonym in 29a but as usual Chambers concurred.
    I particularly liked todays charades as per 27a,23a,16d etc.
    Enjoying the cricket-no rain so far!

  9. I found it difficult to find the right wavelength here. ***/** 17d was the penny drop moment for me too. I’m still not sure where the coats come into anything. I was a bit dubious about the answer to 29a. I took the lies to be the con and the rest the sisters without the usual er for hesitation. I wasn’t sure whether 25d was hero or Nero. Either would fit the bill as far as I can see. Not my favourite puzzle. Thanks to all.

  10. Enjoyed this puzzle but needed help parsing 29a despite having the last letters ! I find when checking that I had the incorrect answer in 25 down but it had fitted the checking letters! I really must not just quickly do bung ins, will I ever learn? Thank you to the setter Mr K.

  11. A solve of two halves for me with the North completed the South remained stubbornly almost blank. Took far too long to see 18a but then things fell into place steadily. Agree with Mr K *** / ****.
    17d, another “what took me so long to see it?” clues was COTD for me.
    Thanks to setter & Mr K.

  12. I fell out with today’s setter a little over that dreadful term for snacks and the stretch required for 29a but there were certainly compensations elsewhere.
    13&23a raised a smile and I really liked the anagram in 15a.

    Thanks to our setter and to Mr K for the review and the lovely assortment of animal magic.

        1. I concur, Jane. And it’s a shame, anyway, to do that to Junkets, my favourite poet!

          1. Shame that he lent his name to that ghastly stuff we were periodically given for lunch at school………..

    1. I solved this early this morning before heading off to play cricket. Having now settled down at home, I scanned the comments prior to posting and found that Jane had said exactly what I wanted to say.

      Many thanks to the setter and to Mr K. Many thanks too to Jane for saving me the time to write my own assessment.

  13. R&W for me today but a jolly solve nonetheless. Liked 17d & 19d, in spite of not being a fan of scooters – Norton, Triumph or Beeza for me. 1*/4*, & thanks to both of you.

    1. Nogbad,
      Bike man too. My first was an Indian Brave 250cc side valve. A machine that a later write-up said “Did nothing well”. Finishedd up with Thurderbird with a chair!

    2. Never met anyone who had a Cotton 250 cc twin, like my then boyfriend (now husband of almost 54 years). His cousin has a collection of 11 mostly old bikes.

  14. 23a certainly stood out for me as my COTD; it was also my final entry. I found this comfortable, if not entirely straightforward, with enough difficulty to make it rewarding and challenging in equal measure.

    Thanks to both Misters.

  15. Initial impression was that this was going to be a real tussle but not so it gradually began to fall into place and hey presto made it. Don’t think I have come across zip for zilch so struggled to fully parse 23a. Not sure about meal in 28a. No outstanding Fav(s). Thank you Mysteron and MrK.

  16. I solved this alone and unaided and parsed all of the answers except for17d.
    I am afraid that I am going against the flow here, because I did not like 17d as a clue at all. If the clue is to have a definition ‘by example’ then it is my opinion that the example must be a clear one, which to my mind this one was not.
    I also found a lot of the other clues very contorted .
    Sorry, just not my cup of tea today.

    Thanks to Mr K and to the setter.

  17. This one certainly bucked the recent trend of a Monday puzzle on a Tuesday, more like a Thursday puzzle on a Tuesday for me – completed at a fast canter – ***/***.
    Candidates for favourite – 12a, 19d, and 21d – and the winner is 21d.
    Thanks to the setter and Mr K.

  18. Nice pleasant solve today, some nice anagrams to get started. For some reason I got slightly hung up on 5a and 1d I know not why.
    I quite liked 20d and 18a. Not sure why.
    Thanks to MrK and setter.

  19. Thoroughly enjoyable! The SE corner held out the longest and 23a held out the longest. I did not fully understand this clue. I got the deer part but where does zip over come from?

    No real favourites today.

    Many thanks to the setter and to Mr K for the hints.

  20. I agree with several comments above. I see the almost deer, and zip can mean zero but ‘zip over’? *** Quick edit here – ‘zip over’ thus zero twice, perhaps?
    29a – I have the answer and I understand the second half of the clue but I cannot parse the whole.
    Ah well, lunch now; and I am informed by H that we are to undergo a ‘lovely walk’ before the British Gas bloke arrives later.
    Thanks to the setter and Mr K. (who, it is said, performs his feat on Saturday at Bishops Gate).

    1. Come on now, Terence, I seem to remember you thoroughly enjoying the last ‘lovely walk’ that H suggested.

      23a uses zip (zero) followed by another 0 as used in cricket terminology for ‘over’.
      29a begins with C – the abbreviation for ‘about’ followed by ON (working) but I thought the definition was something of a stretch although it is shown in the BRB. I can only imagine that it refers in some way to ‘the lie of the land’.

      1. As in, say, “The answer lies within us” = ‘The answer consists of our knowing…”?

        1. Hmm – if you say so. I remain somewhat unconvinced but perhaps all those snacks and the junket have rendered me unwell :sad:

      2. Thank you very much, Jane. I can see clearly now (the rain has gone) thanks to your explanation. I should, of course, have figured out zip over – especially as I was watching the cricket this morning!

    2. Thanks, Terence for the explanation of 23a. It still wouldn’t have clicked with me, though, as I did not know zip was another name for zero.

      Enjoy your walk :good:

      1. I pretend to go for walks under sufferance, Steve, but we both enjoy the fresh air and the sense of being away from it all!

    3. Enjoy the walks while you can Terence. I was a big fan of long walks, brisk ones preferably. Then out of the blue my hip decided to treat itself to a bout of tendonitis. 10 months later I still envy my husband as he sets off alone.

      1. Very sorry to hear that B Lizzie. You are absolutely right – I must count my blessings.

        1. Having explored all other fixes, I am now getting an MRI next month which will hopefully provide the answer. Stretching and swimming are all very well, but nothing beats a nice long walk.

  21. Enjoyable whilst it lasted (*/***). 23a and 10d were my favourites. Thanks to the setter and Mr. K.

  22. I liked this one. **/**** for me. I took the poet in 4d to be Keats but Yeats gives the same answer!

    1. Me too with the poets. Would be an interesting (but useless) stat for our statistical reviewer. Keats leads lead 2 – 1 at the minute.

      1. I had Keats as well. He’s always the first poet who comes to mind because he studied medicine at my alma mater.

          1. Thought you spelt it the same as the poet – vaguely remember it as a line in Educating Rita.

    2. It is Keats which without the letter K gives Eats pronounced Eats. Yeats without the letter Y gives Eats pronounced Ates which doesn’t work.

        1. Whisper it to the reviewer though. Fancy Mr K missing a namesake!
          As is appropriate the majority had the right choice.

  23. Early on parade today due to my eagerly awaited game of darts this evening, thankyou Jane I will enjoy even if I lose. I needed help to parse the zip in 17a although I knew it was an American expression for nothing it didn’t occur to me. I too felt that “lies” in 29a was a stretch too far. But hey ho! I got there anyway. Favourite was 6d, the best ones are made in my county. Thanks to the setter and Mr K.

  24. Agree with most of what has already been written. I was doing very well until the SE corner where I couldn’t parse 29a and, stupidly put the wrong final letter in 27a which caused all sorts of confusion in17d! All down to my carelessness and not anything to do with the compiler of a fine puzzle which I thoroughly enjoyed. Thanks, too, to Mr. K for sorting out my errors and for his usual entertainment.

  25. ***/****. I did three of the four quadrants quickly but slowed up a lot for the NW – don’t know why in retrospect. Favourite was 17d. Thanks to the setter and Mr K.

  26. I agree with MrK as the top half went in and then i ground to a halt 23a got me going, i did like 1, 5 18 and 27 across, on the downs it was 2, 14 and 17, and Terence at 20, I arrived late at Bishops Gate so I missed Mr K performing his feat, nut I am sure a splendid time was had by all, of to Toughie Land, thank you to the setter and Mr K.

  27. I think everything has been said already and I agree with it, including the doubt about 29a.
    Didn’t have a clue about the 8d teachers publication but guessed, successfully.
    I liked 23a and 7 and 17d.
    My favourite was 6d if only because our grandson had it last week for the first time and told us that he’d had a porcupine for lunch!
    Thanks to the setter and to Mr K.

    1. Laughed at the porcupine. Our eldest daughter used to love her “snake and kidney” pudding…

      1. Loved both! An American once asked me, “is it true the Brits eat kidneys?” The don’t know what they’re missing. You can’t get them here unless you buy in bulk.

  28. It’s all been said. Suffice to say I was another to find the SE corner tricky. Didn’t fully/properly parse 23a or 25d & needed Google confirmation for the 29a definition but otherwise a brisk solve. Lots of good clues with 16,17&19d among my favourites.
    Nice to see the often underrated Chris Woakes among the wickets today in a comprehensive victory & I even managed to finally finish the Guardian Prize during the rain delay – only taken 4 days.
    Thanks to the setter & to Mr K.

  29. Not sure why 25d could not solve as NERO. oNe vEry bRave rOman. Leader? Not quite (but second all the way).

    HERO(D) is fine too.

    1. Welcome to the blog, Stopfordian.

      I’m sure NERO was the first thought of many solvers when they got to 25d. I do like your original interpretation of “leader? not quite” as an instruction to take the second letters of the preceding words, although I’m not sure it would pass muster with the editor (it would need to be leaders, for a start). For that parsing to work, the entire clue would also have to serve as the definition. Was Nero a not brave Roman leader? I guess one might argue that he was.

  30. As the first half fell into place quickly I was feeling quite clever. I was expecting lots of complaints that the puzzle was too easy, but then everything changed with the bottom half. Almost felt like a puzzle written by two people. Most enjoyed since last Friday. Thanks to setter and Mr K. Loved the picture at 9a. Our Tonkinese cats used to enjoy a game of bubbles.

  31. Not a stroll in the park for me as the SE corner was a slog across the boggy high tops 😟 ****/*** Favourites we’re 19 & 21 down 😃 Thanks to Mr K for a couple of much needed clues and to the Setter 😬

  32. That the great WB should be beheaded and reduced to a snack.Heartbreaking.
    Otherwise a pleasant romp.
    Thanks to all concerned.

  33. This was a pleasant Tuesday puzzle and lingered only slightly longer than my breakfast coffee. I liked the variety of nibbles on offer but eventually decided on the scooter. ( my motorcycling anecdote involves a friend who owned and rebuilt a 52 Vincent Black Lightning. he took it to the Fairport Convention festival where it got envious glances and approval from Richard Thompson himself.)

    Thanks to Mr K and setter

    The toughie is fun too though I am still struggling in the top half I may have to go and glance at the hints now

    1. JB
      Great story
      Now THERE’S a motorbike would be worth well on towards £1 million now!

    2. Love the clip JB
      Had a pint with him once at the Cambridge Folk Festival, then Roy Harper turned up who I had seen at the Half Moon, Putney, a fortnight before and he recognised me! At that gig, when Roy Harper asked ‘Any requests?’, my mate piped up with ‘Tom Tiddler’s Ground’ and was promptly told to go forth
      Lovely blokes, the pair of them, and very funny to boot – thanks for reminding me of that

      1. When I saw Roy Harper (also at Cropredy) he spent most of his set on (his words) an experimental Chinese jazz composition called Tu-Ning. I hope he has got a set of locking tuners fitted on his guitars now!

  34. Not a difficult as I thought this puzzle may have been. Agree bottom half was a little more time consuming than top half. **/*** my rating for today. Clues noteworthy include 12a, 13a, 27a, 6d & 16d. Winner 6d.
    I put the ‘wrong’ answer in 25d, but was it really wrong? Both answers with N or H seem to fit and I think with the parsing the N answer seems a better fit. Just my thoughts.

    Thanks to setter and Mr K

    1. I would say definitely hero for one very brave but admit I had Nero rather than Herod as the Roman leader, the not quite referring to the different first letter. Having been enlightened by Mr K it is unarguable that Hero is definitely the right answer.

  35. Thank you setter and Mr K but I found this one very laboured, zip (zilch?) points from me.

  36. This should be where Jane commented, too brainless to figure out how to move it.

    I’m with you, Jane, all the way. I thought it was an Americanism, totally floored that no one has mentioned that!

    1. You’re quite correct about the derivation, Merusa. What also amuses me is that what we refer to as a zip or zip fastener our friends across the pond call a zipper. Isn’t language wonderful!

      1. Jane, it reminds me of the time in the early 70s, when I went to Sears in Yuma, AZ, to replace a zip fastener in a pair of trousers, and asked someone where the Haberdashery Department was, and got the answer “Say what?” I said what I needed, and she directed me to something called “Notions”, where I found the “zipper”!
        I visited my sister there several times (from New Zealand), as she was married to an American serviceman – what a lesson in language I learned!

        1. Oh yes, we had to learn a lot of new words when we crossed the pond. I was met with a blank stare when I asked if I should put something in the trolley in the supermarket. Husband at least warned our daughters, then 9 and 12, not to ask for a rubber in school …

  37. Now for my comment for real! Silly cow, how can anyone live this long with no brain.
    It took forever to get on wavelength but once I’d sussed him/her out, it went very quickly.
    Lost my train of thought, Drizly just delivered my infusion of Famous Grouse and I had to let him in!
    Where was I? Oh yes, fave was 23a, love the stuff, so soft and silky, it’s like sleeping nude. Runner up 21d.
    Thanks to our setter for the fun and to Mr. K for his always entertaining pics and hints.

  38. We also considered both possibilities for 25d but did settle on the correct one as being the best fit and did do a bit of head-scratching about the definition for 29a.
    Pleasant solve.
    Thanks Mr Ron and Mr K.

  39. Am I the only (foolish) person who put ‘schooled’ for 1a ? As you can imagine that held me up for some considerable time! Apart from that I did quite well on my own and needed only a little help from MrK.
    Fave 23a
    Thanks to the setter and MrK

    1. Reasonable answer to 1a, Lady kr but the parsing is wrong. “where a pupil might be” is “in form”. 🙂

      1. I did not put it in but school was my first thought. Where pupil might be = school, education = Ed. Did not work with the checkers and I even toyed with the idea it was something to do with eyes before falling upon the right answer

  40. Really enjoyed this, thank you Mr or Ms Setter. And thanks to you too Mr K for the clip for 24d —made my day. Fave clue was the elephant one 😊.

  41. 3*/2*……
    quite liked 13A “the plane trips apparently one never forgets (8)”

    1. 13a was one of my favs as well. Especially as plane trips are now a fond and distant memory.
      A **/*** for me.

      1. I am afraid that for me the magic went out of plane trips some years ago-old age perhaps !

  42. Unlike Mr K, I found the bottom half went in quickly, but the top half took a bit longer. The illustration for 19d took me back to the 1960s, when I had one as my office car – wonderful days! Many thanks to the setter, Mr K for the hints, and the cats, and everyone else for the fun comments! 🙃

  43. I’m with the majority. Went to bed without cracking the SE. Not convinced I would but eventually did with 17d being the last and best. Other favourites 13 and 18a and 1d. Thanks Setter and Mr K. First and I hope last time to see that meaning of zip.

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