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DT 28857 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28857 (Hints)

The Saturday Crossword Club
Hosted by Tilsit

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Good morning from Warrington.  It’s the last Saturday of the month and BD is off to stock up on delicious comestibles at the Farmer’s Market, so I have popped in to hold the fort today.  I suspect one of our Mysteron setters is around today and it is a rather enjoyable, if not too taxing challenge.  

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct as “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow.


1    Put up arms, and their attachments (8,6)
A cryptic way of saying put up some weapons is a phrase for something that adjoins a part of the body.

11    Something Italian chefs make in annoyance, adding nothing (5)  
Take a word that means an annoyance and add a way of saying nothing or zilch to get this Italian creation.

Image result for Pesto sauce

12    Heartless sport that may be seen in ring (4)
Something that may be found in the centre of a ring (one that you wear!) is the name of a sport, minus its middle letter.

17    Swimming as vocation, somewhere beside the Atlantic (4,6)
A place on the Western fringe of the Atlantic Ocean is found by rearranging the letters of ‘as vocation’.

Image result for nova scotia

18    Sprats at dinner-time — one’s option would be to do this rabbit (4,3,3)
Here you need to remember your nursery rhymes and how a certain family dined.  How the lady of the family  ate their food is an expression meaning to talk with someone.  Today’s music is in honour of someone who passed away last weekend.

23    Pickled eel sandwiches German city backed for honour (7)
A word meaning to honour is found by taking an anagram of EEL and wrapping it round the name of a former German capital going backwards.

27    Wreckage may be acceptable in cutting allotment (9)
Inside a word for an allotment or portion goes the abbreviation for acceptable (think Nancy Mitford) and ‘in’.  This gives something that means wreckage.

28    Gas ring let fuel spread, sticking to its own controls (4-10)
An anagram of the first four words gives you an expression meaning to stick to your own rules.


2    Watered the garden in tights? (5)
A double definition; the first referring to gardening, the second to wearing old fashioned stockings or tights.

4    Saudis all owe debts — to a large extent that’s forbidden (10)
A hidden answer that means forbidden.

6    Learner at first not taking part in developing spicy mime (3-4)
The abbreviation for learner takes an anagram of spicy, with a way of abbreviating ‘not’ inside.

8    Battle with copper one might be hard-pushed to win? (5-9)
My favourite clue today.  A nice cryptic definition of a traditional pub game.

Image result for shove halfpenny

9    Green, blue and red school flag (7,7)
For some, a way of describing green, blue and red is found by taking a type of school and adding a description for a flag or standard.

Image result for prism with light

14    Bossy male hack wearing wire for broadcast? (10)
This took me a lot longer to work out the explanation than to solve the clue.  A word meaning like a boss is found by taking an abbreviation for male and adding a word for a hack (a four-legged one) with a type of wire going round.

Image result for managerial cartoon

16    Lolly on list as something that adds to a meal? (5,4)
A word that means lolly (financially) and one that means a list is something that is often served with a meal.

Image result for basket of bread rolls

25   Leader to call newspaper’s bluff (4)
A word that means a bluff (geographically) is the first letter of call, plus a word for a newspaper.

The Crossword Club is now open.  Play nicely please and watch the overuse of hints.  I have wired up the naughty step.

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The Quick Crossword pun: DELI+ALLEY=DELE ALLI which will no doubt please The Boss!

66 comments on “DT 28857 (Hints)

      1. It got me, initially going down the xxxxxxx [partial incorrect answer redacted] ending.

        We love 10+ letter lurkers.

  1. 2.5* / 3*. As Tilsit says this was enjoyable but not too taxing. I was a bit concerned by 18a as I am not too sure who is doing what to the rabbit.

    My podium comprises 10a, 4d & 8d.

    Many thanks to Mr Ron and Tilsit.

  2. Found this one to be something of an oddity. There were a few decidedly dodgy surface reads eg 18&23a and I was glad that Tilsit covered his back by adding ‘for some’ to the hint for 9d. I also don’t think that the fifth letter in 14d works as either an accurate homophone or an abbreviation.

    Having said all that, I did like 1a & 8d!

    Thanks to Mr Ron and to Tilsit for keeping the Saturday club ticking over on the boss’s day off.

    1. For 14d I think that we need just an abbreviation for male with a synonym for a hack inserted in the wire for broadcast.

        1. I second Jane’s original comment! what an odd assortment! still it’s fun to stretch the old grey cells. Thanks to Tilsit for manning this today.

        1. Were you by any chance watching Monty Don last night!
          If you finish up with more jam than you can use……..

          1. No I didn’t – and no I won’t have more jam than I can use! I adore quince jam – many years ago my aunt used to have a quince tree in the garden of her Tudor cottage in Billingshurst. At the time (mid 1950s) it was called Quince Cottage – the last time I visited Billingshust it had become “Ye Olde Tudor Café”.

            1. Ah well, it was worth an ask! So difficult to get hold of either the quince itself or the finished product in the wilds of Anglesey.
              I suspect that both you and your aunt would have been greatly saddened by ‘Ye Olde Tudor Cafe’. I wonder whether the quince tree is still there and, more importantly, whether its fruit is still harvested.

  3. Faltering start but finally made it through. Never heard of 8d. After mislaying originals I now have to use decimal copper for 8d but all generations of the family still enjoy the ‘battle’. No Fav. Thank you Mysteron and Tilsit.

    1. Welcome to the blog. Please read the instructions about comments before commenting. We ask that comments on Prize Puzzles do not include any reference to the solution.

      However the answer to your question is probably provided by Tilsit’s hint where he says ‘for some people.

    2. In computing, any xxxxxx can be defined by a RGB code (0-8 + a-f), #000000 is black and #ffffff is white. The first digit is the xxxxxx, R, then the hue or intensity – so #0000ff is pure blue.

      I sometimes design and build websites, but since I am profoundly xxxxxx blind I have to leave the xxxxxx scheme to someone else – it all looks the same to me.

      From a physics point of view though, I would agree that no, green is not a xxxxxxx

      Hope I’m not in trouble…

      1. By the way, this clue hinges on whether you are taking about additive or subtractive variations – green, blue and red are correct for the former. Try looking it up, and please don’t discuss further until Friday’s review.

        1. I’d be interested to know why you’re so strict on people mentioning answers (or even wrong answers) and yet you put in so many pictures which show the answers. I looked at the hint for 11a but didn’t need to think about it as the photo completely gave the game away! Could you maybe do away with the photos – at least on the weekend puzzles?

      2. I rarely do it now, just for free for friends but I too used to code and design websites and yes, the ******* thing is tricky.
        I once worked my a*** off under a ludicrous deadline to create a site for a ballet school. They sent me a paper brochure and said ‘Design it based on that.’ so I did. I matched the ****** exactly using RGB values.
        Everyone seemed very pleased, the company I sub-contracted for, the marketing company, but NOT the head of the ballet school. Said it looks dreadful. I was baffled until I went to the school to see. They were using a very (VERY!) old computer and screen, anyone remember cyan? What I had created as a delicate ***** of **** looked like Pepto Bismol.
        Beauty really is in the eye of the beholder or screen :-)

  4. Back from the very hot Canaries where blogging was hit or miss . By amazing coincidence , we had the same pilot/comedian both ways . One of his many funnies was made in pointing out that we were passing Brest and going to Bristol !
    Not too taxing today with a good cross section of clues particularly liked 1A , 8D & 9D .
    Thanks to everyone .

    1. Reminds me of the (probably apocryphal) tale of the British Airways pilot who went down tbe wrong taxiway after landing at Berlin Airport. The air traffic controller was particularly terse “Stupid Englischer pilot. Have you not been to Berlin before?”
      He replied ” Only twice in 1943 and 44 but we didn’t try landing”

  5. I thought that was good fun and it sounds as if I found it a bit trickier than others did.
    3d was a problem because I spelt the first word of 10a like the man’s name – dim, but a friend of ours is called that so I’m used to writing it.
    I’d never heard of 6d or have forgotten it which is more likely.
    14d took ages to untangle.
    I particularly liked 10 and 12a and 21d. My favourite was 2d because of the image that it conjured up.
    Thanks to the Saturday setter and to Tilsit.
    Off to have a quick go at the NTSPP before my sister arrives to spend the weekend with us.

  6. Despite the ongoing debate about the word green in 9d, it still made my top three along with 1a and 8d, so I am with KFB @ #6 on favourites. I didn’t find this as straightforward as is often the case on a Saturday, but it was a fair challenge and enjoyable to solve, which is my main objective.

    Thanks to our setter and Tilsit/BD.

  7. Lovely sunny day on the North Beach at Bridlington.
    Finished this bar a couple of parsings. Thanks to Tilsit and BD. I did prepare a bit of a rant about 9d but I see it is well covered by others. I too liked the lurker and debate apart 9d was good too.

  8. 8d is my favourite clue. I really enjoyed the whole thing. A lovely way to start the weekend, gorgeous weather here, heading out to get the garden ready for winter while LSH takes down screens and caulks and wields his trusty can of WD40 on the windows.

  9. I found this a real challenge and it took me a long time to solve, so 2*/4*.

    Some good clues, but some questionable ones too, and one downright stinker. 9d infuriates me because it’s wrong – it should be yellow for green – and that killed it for me.

    Thanks for the hints. The setter should go back to 9 or take up painting.

  10. I found this decidedly tricky but very enjoyable.
    I needed the hints to finish, 14d, but have no idea why it took so long.
    Fave was 18a with runner up 8d.
    Thanks to setter and to Tilsit for helping me out.

  11. Has anyone else noticed that below the hint for 18a is a comment about today’s music being in honour of someone who passed away last weekend – am I the only one who can’t find the music?

    1. Yes, I couldn’t find the music either but I feel sure it was intended to be Rabbit by Chas & Dave.

        1. Indeed it was. When I do the blog on my iMac, I can’t upload pictures properly so I switch to my laptop and replace my adhoc picture placecards with the right ones. However I deleted the RABBIT note and went looking on You Tube and was distracted by one of our dogs and missed going back to add it.


  12. I quickly got over confident when the first half of the puzzle fell smoothly into place, and I had high hopes of finishing without a hint. But then I began to struggle, and it felt as if the puzzle was written by two people. Last time we played 8d we were 17 and 19, many moons ago, so it was a nostalgic clue and thanks for the picture Tilsit. 14d was last in, and I still don’t completely understand it, but all good fun anyway.

    1. For 14d, start with the letter denoting male and then add that funny wiry thing that people put on their roofs to receive their daily broadcasts around a three letter word for a horse.

      1. Many thanks Jean-Luc, you explained it very well!
        All done now, although I had never heard of 6d, off my radar.
        Found it difficult in places after a good start, and the odd hint from Tilsit -thanks also.
        Fav was 1a, and 17a close 2nd.

  13. Red green blue.. or RGB as I am used to abbreviating them are definitely those things I’ll not mention. Only works for light not paint mind.

    Mixed crossword for me today but mostly enjoyable


  14. I solved with half an eye on the television, but even so I found this a little tricky in places, but thoroughly enjoyable. Mind you, I struggled at the close with the pretty clear 14d, so perhaps it’s just me.

  15. I found this trickier than most but, hey, what’s new.
    I needed BD’s hint to parse 14d, but persevered to complete ok.
    I thought there were a few iffy definitions,1a confused me (arms??).
    Thanks BD and Mr. Ron

  16. I also found this decidedly tricky and enjoyable .
    I never played 8d but I must have heard of it as I finally guessed it .
    Thanks to all concerned .

  17. A good romp through for a Saturday crossword – nothing too taxing but a few head scratches along the way…..

  18. As soon as I have the time to look at nursery rhymes and pub games, I will finish my last two in 8d and 18a.
    12a made me smile.
    Thanks to the Saturday setter and to Tilsit for the hints.

  19. Well of course no one is going to pick up on this 24 hours later but I sailed through everything- although I struggled with 14d as the wire surely does not begin with ‘e’ although the broadcast hints at sounds like. But maddeningly I still cannot get 7d and there is no hint for that so it must be easy. Nor can I think of the second word of 1a but it is now October so I am giving up. Goodnight.

    1. Hey Daisygirl. It’s still September here, think maple syrup and mounties, there’s still time :-) 7d It’s hidden, though hard to hide if you have one. Hopefully Big Dave will not think this is too much of a hint.

  20. OK I put the light out (Mr Daisygirl fast asleep of course) and it came to me. All done so you can all go to sleep now.

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