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Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28804

Hints and tips by an easy-going Miffypops

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BD Rating – Difficulty ***Enjoyment ***

Today’s obituaries include that of setter extraordinaire Nuala Considine. It is well worth a read.

We have Dada to thank for today’s puzzle. It sort of solved itself once enough checkers were in. Several clues made me smile. No pencils or pens were needed for the anagrams of which there were too many for my liking

Hints and Tips are provided by a well-meaning Miffypops who didn’t see the puzzle until he woke up far too early this morning. Answers lie beneath the click here boxes. Definitions are underlined. If anything is not clear, please ask. The rapid response unit that makes up this happy community will rapidly respond.

Please leave a comment telling us what you thought.


1a    Move towards men, going with the flow (10)
DOWNSTREAM: I do like a jumpoutatcha clue at one across. It sets the mind up nicely for the job in hand. The anagram fodder is TOWARDS MEN and the anagram indicator is the word move. No writing implements needed.

6a    Place tug behind ship at the outset (4)
STOW: Place word that describes what a tugboat does to a larger boat after the opening letter (at the outset) of ship. I am not convinced that tug works as a synonym of the last three letters of the answer. I know better than to question the setter or the puzzles editor though. Those of you who own the BRB can enlighten me should you wish to do so

9a    A note in film music of the Fifties? (10)
ROCKABILLY: Begin with a film which you have no clue for. Any film you can name but preferably a cheesy nonsense from forty-two years ago. Insert the letter A from the clue and a note which is a printed statement of monies owed for goods or services.

10a    A little grizzly, possibly, on a Caribbean island (4)
CUBA: A grizzly is a bear. Begin with the name of a young bear. Add the letter A from the clue.

Algy met a bear
A bear met Algy
The bear was bulgy
The bulge was Algy
Fuzzy Wuzzy was a bear
A bear was Fuzzy Wuzzy
Fuzzy Wuzzy had no hair
He wasn’t fuzzy was he?

12a    Football team score with nine sent off? (6)
ELEVEN: A score is twenty. Subtract nine and you are left with the number that make up an association football team

13a    Actor wearing small diamond, a national symbol (8)
SHAMROCK: Place the abbreviation for small and a slang term for a diamond around a noun meaning an excessively theatrical actor/actress

15a    I insist tact must be deployed to trap a data expert (12)
STATISTICIAN: Anagram (must be deployed) of I INSIST TACT

A statistician was sitting his final exam. It was a True/False test, so he decided to flip a coin for the answers. The stats professor watched the student the entire two hours as he was flipping the coin…writing the answer…flipping the coin…writing the answer.

At the end of the two hours, everyone else had left the final except for the one student. The professor walks up to his desk and interrupts the student, saying:

“Listen, I have seen that you did not study for this statistics test, you didn’t even open the exam. If you are just flipping a coin for your answer, what is taking you so long?”

The student replies bitterly, as he is still flipping the coin: “Shhh! I am checking my answers!”

18a    Suggest the gospel isn’t truth? I’ve just written it! (8,4)
QUESTION MARK: We are often advised to ignore all punctuation marks in a clue. However, this clue is centred around the punctuation mark that follows the word truth in the clue which our setter states that he has just written. We need a synonym for suggest something isn’t true and the name of the geezer that wrote the shortest gospel

21a    While voice filled with hatred at first, I’m disgusted! (8)
ALTHOUGH: Begin with the highest male singing voice. Place inside this the initial letter (at first) of hatred. Add an exclamation of disgust or horror

22a    Fake painting so exquisite, Uffizi didn’t object originally (6)
PSEUDO: An acrostic. The word originally suggests that we take the first letters from a series of words in the clue

24a    In reality, Newcastle’s river (4)
TYNE: A lurker, suggested by the word in. I will be visiting here at the end of my holiday in September

25a    Looking for lecturer somewhere in Cambridgeshire (10)
HUNTINGDON: This market town in Cambridgeshire can be split 7,3 to fit the clue. The lecturer would be one from the university to which I intend to attend after my death as did my brother Paul.

26a    Lech returning for a dance (4)
REEL: Reverse a word meaning to ogle to find a lively Scottish or Irish dance

27a    Colleague heading for breakdown during deadlock (10)
STABLEMATE: Place the initial letter (heading for) of the word breakdown inside a word meaning a situation in chess counting as a draw where a player is not in check but cannot move except into check


1d    County ultimately unprepared, or ready? (6)
DORSET: The final letter (ultimately) of unprepared is followed by the word OR from the clue. Now add a synonym for ready

2d    Good and evil (6)
WICKED: A double definition which would not have worked before 1997 when the film Good Will Hunting gave the answer a meaning opposite to its regular meaning

3d    Aspect ain’t so shabby in out-of-this-world accommodation (5,7)

4d    Run and help Sally? (4)
RAID: Begin with cricket’s abbreviation for a run and add a synonym for help

5d    As are a number of clones, despite what you say (3,3,4)
ALL THE SAME: The answer is a phrase that describes a number of identical objects. The same phrase might be uttered by one unconvinced by an opposite viewpoint

7d    German not cute, I gathered (8)
TEUTONIC: Anagram (gathered) of NOT CUTE I

8d    Very large part of building housing journalist (8)
WHACKING: Place a writer of dull unoriginal work inside a large part of a stately home

11d    Drunk in recompense for divine existence? (12)

14d    Convincing case for highly developed skill (6,4)
STRONG SUIT: The case here is one in a courtroom that one is highly likely to win. It describes a particular skill set that one is accomplished in. It comes from whist or bridge based card games where a player is holding the high cards of one kind

16d    Quartets playing for uninvited resident (8)
SQUATTER: Anagram (playing) of QUARTETS

17d    A few words in time? (8)
SENTENCE: What words together make is also a term of imprisonment

19d    Plain aunt struggling to embrace doctor (6)
TUNDRA: An anagram (struggling) of AUNT holds the abbreviation for Doctor

20d    Suddenly move forward around old room (6)
LOUNGE: A sudden move forwards is placed around the abbreviation for old.

23d    Try attack (4)
STAB: To have a go at something is also to attack with a knife and pierce the flesh

This puzzle sort of solved itself once enough checkers were in. The anagrams helped with this.

Quickie Pun: lie-in+Tamar=lion tamer


59 comments on “DT 28804

  1. Another lovely crossword . I kept changing my mind re the favourite as I progressed but 9a stood out in the end .
    I missed the anagram in 1A , silly me .
    Thanks to everyone .

  2. A very clement puzzle to start the week off. Enjoyable enough while it lasted. No stand-out clues to pick a favourite. 1.5* / 2.5*

  3. I found a few bits of this a touch tricky, and it took me *** time.

    A few too many anagrams in my view, and the other meaning in 2d is a tad modern for my taste.

    21a was my last one in, and is therefore COTD.

    Many thanks to Dada and MP.

  4. I object strongly to 20d being used without the word ‘Airport’ preceding it.

    It’s like calling a loo ‘Toilet’.

    No, no, no, no, no, no, no….

    1. So we’e back to the debate about U and non-U usage. That should have died out in the 1950s with 9a. Perhaps your remark is deliberately provocative to elicit a response?
      Whatever happened to Arthur Ennymore-Empties btw? Are you related, by any chance?

      1. It most certainly was provocative.

        I do love the “u/non–u” debate.

        it’s hilarious.

      2. I forgot to say that I am, indeed, related to Arthur who is, in my eyes, a legend.

        But, being related, I’m bound to say that, I suppose.

    2. Don’t worry about it. Loo, toilet serviette, napkin. What does it matter. There are lots of words I object to, leverage, impact, signage etc, not used in their original meaning or bastardised. I changed my mind after reading Bill Bryson, Mother Tongue.

      1. The overuse of ‘leverage’ is a top shout, big Bob. It’s everywhere.

        I’ll add it to “The Grrr” list.

    3. Sorry, for the hard of thinking, did the word ‘lounge’ originate as’airport lounge’ and has since been misused as a room in a house???

        1. Yes, the word “lounge” was used for a sitting-room in a private house long before airport departure lounges existed.

    4. I too hate the word lounge and don’t like seeing people do it either! Very bad for the back. Nice crossword just got it finished by midnight without recourse to hints. Does anyone else write the letters of an anagram in a circle? I always find the word pops out at me straight away.

  5. Great stuff from Dada this morning. Just the right amount of difficulty to start the week, and plenty of fun to be had during the solving process. Straightforward, entertaining and enjoyable. 12a was a favourite, along with 18a.

    Thanks Dada for a terrific start to the crossword week, and to the easy-going one.

  6. 1.5* / 4*. The usual light Monday fun making a very pleasant start to the crosswording week. 9a was my favourite.

    Many thanks to Dada and to MP.

  7. Nothing too tricky there with 18a the clear favourite.
    Thanks to the setter, and to Miffypops for giving us chance to enjoy Steve Tilston’s ‘greatest hit’.

  8. Right on the setters wavelength today and a */**** for me, 9a and 18a my favourites, as RD says lots of fun and entertaining start to the week, thanks setter and MP.
    The quickie pun made me chuckle .Must mention the Saturday back page with a brilliant clue from memory something like ‘ hen spotted in the garden’- 8 letters.

  9. I really liked 12a and 18a, and 2d reminded me of last Wednesday, with a pair of opposites being synonyms also.

    Also enjoyed the cat food in the quickie pun.

    Thanks to Dada and MP.

    P.S. I didn’t note it at the time, but on reflection I like 20d.

    1. 2d reminded me of a conversation I heard on a bus between two teenagers a few years ago:

      First teenager: Didn’t see you around last week, everyfink okay?
      Second teenager: No mate, I was well ill.

  10. Slight problem with parsing 1a until the penny dropped over the neatly disguised anagram but no other hold ups to report.

    Gold medal awarded to18a with 27a taking silver.

    Thanks to Dada and to MP for the blog.

    1. As opposed to Miffypops 1a was my last in and the only non write-in. Completely missed the anagram and had to get the BRB off the shelf to find a word commencing with “down” to fit. Still could not parse. The hidden anagram was completely different from some others especially 15a which was immediately apparent. Not complaining, just saying

  11. Entertaining and gentle start to the week. Too many anagrams for my personal taste though. I’ll add my vote for 9a as favourite.

  12. I agree with Miffypops remarks but not his ratings as I thought it was pretty easy .
    As I have pointed out before , 13a is not a national symbol , the harp is .
    21a is my favourite .
    Thanks to all concerned .

    1. Not my ratings Una. I never touch them. I think they are still set at the default three x three. Big Dave sometimes has a play with them om a Monday.

  13. As others have said, an excellent puzzle very worthy of the fairly gentle Monday tag.

    Top clues for this solver were 1a, 12a and 18a.

    Many thanks to Mr Halpern and the easy-going one.

  14. A nice gentle solve watching the rain fall on a parched garden, lots of excellent clues so no real favourites.
    Thanks to Dada and Miffypops.

    1. I was just about to say since Saturday afternoon with its torrential and tree damaging storm here in Peterborough East Anglia, no more rain. I need the shop, guess what …..

  15. Horrible, horrible, horrible!

    Not the puzzle – which was a treat. Full of gentle misdirection, requiring it to be slowly and methodically teased out – and was all the more satisfying for so being.

    However, the sages at the Telegraph have decided to deny access of their Crossword to the Crossword App that has for years provided a seamless and perfect interface, guaranteeing an enjoyable and calming Crossword experience.

    As a result, I have now had to go through the Telegraph’s puzzle page – using the Puffin browser, (thank you to Hoofityoudonkey, and others for the heads up on that). And the interactive puzzle on theTelegraph’s own puzzle page, on a smartphone, is a truly HORRIBLE experience! (My apologies for shouting).

    And the stupid thing is that it was due to the App (that they have now cast into the wilderness) that I decided to take out the subscription for the Telegraph on-line Puzzle page in the first place.

    Given that the App will only download the DT puzzles, if you do have a paid up subscription, I really am at a loss to understand why the aforementioned savants have stopped it.

    Most frustrating!

    COTD – 18a (the Gospel one)
    LOI – 21a – as I got the wrong end of the stick, or at least, of the clue – and was trying to find something that meant “I”m disgusted” (probably it is what was subliminally being pushed to the front of my mind due to my experience this morning).

    Rant over. Many thanks to Dada for the very enjoyable puzzle. And to MP for presenting his clues in such an easy-going manner today.
    Definitely a Ying to my Yang.

      1. Thank you. That is the answer that they gave me as well.

        My question is why don’t they give them permission? – bearing in mind that you cannot actually get the access until you have entered your subscription details within the link. i.e. you have to have a valid paid-up subscription in order for it to work.

        This has been my experience, and was further supported by one year the app “appearing” to not work – when the issue was that I had unwittingly let my subscription lapse. I paid my subscription and hey-presto, I could download through the app again.

        As I mentioned, I actually took out the subscription with the Telegraph in the first place, because I had found this user friendly app that I could solve the Telegraph crosswords with. Which surely means that the Telegraph should be actively supporting the App, not rejecting it.

          1. I just wish the DT would hurry up and get their new website up and running (without flashplayer)

          2. Mm.

            But the Telegraph is already getting one fee from me – my annual subscription to the puzzles.
            And I only took that out because there was a decent app that would allow me to do it on my smartphone. …

  16. Thanks to Dada and to Miffypops for the review and hints. A very nice puzzle to start the week, but I found it quite tricky. Managed three quarters of it, then got stuck in the NW corner. I guessed 9a, needed the hints to parse it. Had to look up 1d, just couldn’t fathom it. Again guessed 1a, didn’t realise it was an anagram. Favourite was 25a, which made me laugh. Great start to the week. Was 3. 5*/4* for me.

  17. Pleasant start to the week. SE corner took longest. I too missed the anagram in 1a but solved via going with the flow. Forget 25a itself lost it’s county status so don’t associate it with Cambridgeshire but it had to be. 26a took a while to dawn on me as we have Polish friend called Lech. Joint Favs 12a and 18a. Thank you Dada and MP.

  18. I cannot say that I found this one easy, but I got there in the end, alone and unaided.

    Had to bung in 9a though as I had no idea how to parse it…..well done Miffypops.

    Thanks to the setter and to Miffypops.

  19. Found this a puzzle of two halves with some clues straightforward others trickier, but a typical Dada puzzle I thought. The large number of anagrams gave me a good foothold so grateful for those and certainly helped in an enjoyable solve. Not familiar with the answer at 9a so thanks for the clip MP A good challenge with quite a lot of smiles a very entertaining puzzle, good start to the working week.

    Clues of the day: 13a / 18a / 8d

    Rating: 3.5* / 4*

    Thanks to MP and Dada.

  20. Really, really enjoyable start to the week.
    I needed electronic help for 9a, I suppose I should have been able to work it out.
    Fave was 18a by a mile, but 11a and 25a were smiles too.
    Thanks to Dada and to M’pops for the fun review.

  21. This would have been all over in a jiffy – if I hadn’t dropped off to sleep in the middle of it. Not a reflection of the crossword. It had plenty of excitement. 18a was my favourite. Thank you setter and easy going and well-meaning miffypops. I read the quickie pun as a hint that perhaps I should stay in bed in the morning.

  22. One of the best crosswords for a while, I thought. Lots of different, inventive clues. I found it trickier than most. Only query was the answer to 8d meaning ‘very large’, though I’m sure it’s in the dictionary somewhere.
    Top of the Pops, was 1a, which I thought was a brilliant anagram.
    Final word on the TDF, wonderful to see a nice guy succeed, and total respect to Chris Froome for the support he gave GT and the obvious pleasure he derived from his victory.
    Thanks MP and Dada

  23. Very pleasant start to the week. Went through it like Geraint Thomas up Alpe d’Huez.
    9a gave a bit of pause until I realised it was paper money rather than a musical note.
    18a was my fave today.
    First pass gave me the places 1d 10a 24a and 25a but after that they fairly rattled off my typing digit. Thanks to Dada and Miffypops.
    Nice music today I was born in Newcastle and Lindisfarne were the first band I went to see and the line “gonna have a wee wee gonna have a wet on the wall” is a legend in my family as the first time I gave up the potty was on a trip to Housesteads where I did have a wet on the wall😶.
    Loved Steve Tilston too, Fairport Convention (another fave band)do a nice cover of slips jigs and reels and he used to live a couple of doors up from my sister.

    1. Dave Swarbrick swore blind that the Steve Tileston song involved a character called Evil Murdoch who may or may not have been a horse.

      1. Dave Swarbrick was one of the few who was able to read his own Telegraph Obituary when they mistakenly reported his demise.
        I believe his witty response was
        “It’s not the first time I’ve died in Coventry”

  24. That was fun! Lots of smiles along the way. 20d was my favourite. Much more apt than ‘drawing room’ or ‘sitting room’ doncha think?
    Anyway thanks to Dada, and the ‘easy-going’ one for his review.

  25. An enjoyable start to the week, say * for difficulty. The definition at 18ac raised a smile. :-)

  26. Ham and Cheese. What a lovely combination.
    Sly was around the other day and I know for sure that he’s ready to wear his gloves again in another sequel to 9a. Stopped counting.
    Talking numbers, thanks for explaining that the answer to 12 was 11.
    I just love Dada.
    Thanks all.

  27. A lovely puzzle,managed without assistance(a rare event for me). I too thought lech was a name as I had only heard of it otherwise with a t in it. I shall ignore all comments saying it was easy.
    Thanks to the setter and Miffypops,more of the same please.

  28. Thank you dada and MP for revealing the secret of 1a. I felt 100% on the wavelength. Also immediately spotted 9a despite knowing little about music and films. Favs. 18 21 and 27a and 7d

  29. One of the more enjoyable of recent puzzles, I found;
    liked the diminishing football team (12A) and the questionable gospel (18A).

  30. Pleasant & fulfilling Sunday workout – TY !! & to those who complain that it is somewhat English in its usage & grammar – what about 9A ??!! :o

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