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DT 28733

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28733

Hints and tips by Mr K

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BD Rating  -  Difficulty ** Enjoyment ***

 

Hello everyone, and welcome to a solid Tuesday puzzle.  In the hints below most indicators are italicized, and underlining identifies precise definitions and cryptic definitions.  Clicking on the ANSWER buttons will reveal the answers.  In some hints hyperlinks provide additional explanation or background.  Clicking on a picture will usually enlarge it or display a bonus illustration.  Please leave a comment telling us how you got on.

 

Across

3a    Jealous resentment of us shown by Greek primate on board (4,6)
SOUR GRAPES:  Fuse together a pronoun meaning of us,  the abbreviation for Greek,  and a type of primate.  Then put that lot inside the usual abbreviation for a steamship (on board)

8a    Stream of abuse from traffic island being received (6)
TIRADE:  Traffic or commerce with the map abbreviation for island inserted (being received)

9a    Gigolo, worried about editor, is to stay in hiding (3,5)
LIE DOGGO:  An anagram (worried) of GIGOLO wrapped around (about) a usual abbreviation for editor

10a   Small part of my intro I improvised (8)
MINORITY:  An anagram (improvised) of MY INTRO I

11a   Working daily, at first, for legendary boatman (6)
CHARON:  A daily or cleaner preceding (… at first) a short word meaning working or operating.  The boatman is lurking somewhere on this handy map

12a   Histrionic article appearing before a court case involving clubs (10)
THEATRICAL:  A grammatical article comes before (appearing before) A from the clue and a court case containing (involving) the playing card abbreviation for clubs

14a   One may be found in the kitchen clearing table (8,5)
DRAINING BOARD:  The two words of the answer are respectively clearing or exhausting, and a synonym of table

20a   Just nips in here to be served, where potential lovers drink? (7,3)
SINGLES BAR:  This drinking establishment catering to those seeking partners could, whimsically, also be a place that serves spirits a nip at a time 

22a   Prudence holding a fine decanter (6)
CARAFE:  Prudence or caution containing (holding) A from the clue and the pencil abbreviation for fine

23a   Top tavern in place abroad (8)
PINNACLE:  Another word for tavern inserted in an anagram (abroad) of PLACE

24a   Cause of addiction revealed by knight I notice shaking (8)
NICOTINE:  The chess abbreviation for knight is followed by an anagram (shaking) of I NOTICE

25a   Contests  cases (6)
EVENTS:  A double definition.  The most widely-separated definitions that I could come up with are a specific type of horse-riding competition, and cases in the sense of occurrences or happenings

26a   Comp, sort crossword compiler put together (10)
TYPESETTER:  Put together sort or kind, and the term commonly used for the crossword compiler

 

Down

1d    Female in cast carrying one over (8)
FINISHED:  Stick together the abbreviation for female, IN from the clue, and cast or discard.  Then wrap it all around the Roman one (carrying one)

2d    View of enlisted men invading country (8)
PANORAMA:  The usual enlisted men or soldiers are inserted in (invading) a Central American country with a big canal

3d    I must feed Spanish man first (6)
SENIOR:  The I from the clue is inserted in (must feed) the Spanish word for a gentleman

4d    Threatening, bad guy crossing line (4)
UGLY:  An anagram (bad) of GUY containing (crossing) the abbreviation for line

5d    With great delight, beat American singing group (4,4)
GLEE CLUB:  Put some great delight or joy with a verb synonym of beat to get an American term for a singing group or society

6d    Just the jacket for a trainspotter? (6)
ANORAK:  The answer is a type of jacket that has also become an informal term for a trainspotter, or indeed "anyone who follows a pursuit or interest that is regarded as dull and unsociable" (thank you BRB).  It’s only May and this word has already booked its place in the word cloud of 2018's most repeated answers

7d    A warming drink, for example -- good number had before start of game (6)
EGGNOG:  Concatenate the Latin abbreviation for "for example", the abbreviation for good, a two-letter abbreviation for number, and the first letter of (start of) Game

13d   Introduction of conscription, soon to become law (5)
CANON:  Assemble the first letter of (introduction of) Conscription and a dated synonym of soon (that I've encountered only in cryptic crosswords and in Don Manley's Chambers Crossword Manual)

15d   Reportedly understands seedy bar's sharp decline (8)
NOSEDIVE:  A homophone (reportedly) of a word meaning understands is followed by a seedy bar

16d   Terribly sad about nation, per what was said before (2,6)
AS STATED:  An anagram (terribly) of SAD is wrapped around (about) nation or country

17d   What prolific sketchers do to decide an issue? (4,4)
DRAW LOTS:  Taken literally, this method for deciding an issue could also describe what prolific sketchers do

18d   Correspondence from leader of insurgents within group (6)
PARITY:  The first letter of (leader of) Insurgents is inserted in (within) a group that might go hunting or scouting

19d   Dancer's award put in auction (6)
SALOME:  Put a usual abbreviated award in a synonym of auction.  More about the dancer here

21d   Hang on, beginning to get aboard vessel (6)
LINGER:  Place the first letter of (beginning to) Get inside (aboard) a large passenger-carrying vessel

23d   Forward in super team (4)
PERT:  If you were wondering what had happened to this week's hidden answer clue, wonder no more

 

Thanks to today’s setter for a fun solve  20a occupies my top spot this week. How about you?

 


The Quick Crossword pun:  INCAN+TROLL=IN CONTROL


50 comments on “DT 28733

  1. I managed to complete this quite smoothly in *** time, my only stumbling block being 25a. I could see the answer, but just couldn’t persuade myself that it was right.

    26a took some untangling, so that is my COTD.

    Many thanks to the setter and Mr.K.

  2. Great – I enjoyed that although was a bit slow off the mark particularly in the North. My GK let me down with 11a so had to check out my bung-in. Joint Favs today are 23a and 17d. Thank you Mysteron and MisterK.

  3. Solid and straightforward this morning, 20a my top clue, and 1.5* /3* overall.

    Thanks to both Misters involved.

  4. Took quite some time to dredge the answer to 9a up from distant memory, and needed the hint to confirm ‘events’, so thanks to Mr K for that. Thanks also for the Dylan clip – a great version of the song, more than worthy of a typical Monday blog!

    1. Thanks, Toadson. I picked that version of the song because I really liked what the violin brought to the performance.

  5. I loved this. I was not in a very bright frame of mind when I started, beginning slowly but managed to gather pace as I progressed and finished at a canter. A truly awakening experience. I’ve not heard 9 across in every day parlance for a long time. It took me back to the time when I first heard it used by my very old school French master. I used it incessantly for weeks!

  6. I haven’t had time to look at this one (or yesterday’s) yet, but in the meantime I thought I’d share this poem. It is so elegantly succinct and hauntingly poignant. I wish I could write like this:

    Coat

    Sometimes I have wanted
    to throw you off
    like a heavy coat.

    Sometimes I have said
    you would not let me
    breathe or move.

    But now that I am free
    to choose light clothes
    or none at all

    I feel the cold
    and all the time I think
    how warm it used to be.

    Vicki Feaver, from Close Relatives (1981).

  7. 1.5* / 3.5*. This was not difficult but very pleasant.

    Well done to the setter for indicating that the singing group is an American term, although, according to Wikipedia, the first named Glee Club was founded in Harrow School in London in 1787.

    There were some nice clues from which to pick a favourite, and my choice is 20a.

    Many thanks to Messrs R & K.

  8. Much to my surprise completed fairly quickly but enjoyable . 23a made me smile the most so is my favourite .
    Thanks yet again for the clues and hints ,
    Well done Mark Williams especially for fulfilling his promise !

  9. Couldn’t see 18d for looking, so i stopped looking and went to the bank. When I returned it had morphed into a JUMPOUTATCHA clue. Thanks to the setter. I wish my setters would give me such easy fodder for musical clips. Big thanks to Mr K for spreading the word.

  10. Suffered from one of those ‘ blonde moments’ this morning and spent quite a while searching for a type of traffic island that sounded vaguely like the answer to 8a – trust me, there isn’t one!
    Fortunately nothing else delayed me for too long and I’ll go with the flow and nominate 20a & 17d for the top slots.

    As Mr K said – a solid puzzle – nothing more, nothing less.

    Thanks to Mr Ron and to Mr K – I can assure you that the word for ‘soon’ is very much alive and kicking here – ‘see you —-‘ being in regular use.
    PS Tuesdays are for cute cats and fun pics – we get quite enough of you-know-who on Mondays, thank you!

    1. Sorry about the you-know-who, Jane, although I do think that particular clip is very good. Extra cats next week to make up for it.

  11. For me, this required a lot of head scratching. So much so, that after I had ‘breezed’ through the Warbler Toughie (which I recommend to everyone) it felt like a double wrong envelope day. Completed at almost a slow canter – ***/**.

    Candidates for favourite – 14a, 2d, and 17d – and the winner is 17d.

    Thanks to the setter and Mr K.

  12. Must start with Mr K’s pic for15d-brilliant, also the train spotters .I was one in my distant youth joining the Ian Allan club and sneaking down the ‘smoke hole to the Crewe engine works-memories indeed.
    Anyway a **/*** seems about right.
    Like Jane sough the traffic island in 8a until I had the checking letters in and saw the light.
    No particular favourite -good solid cluing throughout.
    Thanks All

  13. At last a crossword I can do!!!

    I know it is in the BRB because I looked, but I don’t think of a 22a as a decanter.
    I think a decanter has a stopper while a 22a does not.
    Perhaps a caterer can adjudicate?

    Thanks to Mr K (particularly for the picture for 15d) and to the setter for restoring my self-confidence (a bit).

    1. A 22a is something that one would decant wine into so I think it’s fair enough.

  14. I liked this lots, though did meh at 25a. My favourite is also 20a, and I liked 12a and more as well.

    Wondered a little about the lack of a definition by example indicator in 19d, since I’d have thought of an auction as a type of sale rather than synonymous with it.

    18d brought this to mind:
    What goes “Squawk squawk! Pieces of seven! Pieces of seven!”?
    A parroty error

    Thanks setter and blogger. The cat in 14a looks a bit drained.

  15. I thought I had posted earlier – but it has disappeared into the ether! Not too challenging but a pleasant start to the day. 1.5*/3*. No particular stand out clue for me today.

  16. I also think “solid” is a very apt description of this one, well-clued certainly but without anything too remarkable.

    My joint-favourites were the popular 20a plus 15d.

    Many thanks to today’s setter and to Mr K.

  17. Another treat today, very enjoyable, nothing really mind boggling.
    I rather liked 20a but fave has to be 9a.
    Please may we retire 6d? However, I think it highly unlikely that one setter will say to another “I used that last week so don’t use it again for a month.”
    Thanks to our Tuesday setter and to Mr. K for his hints and pics, particularly 15d.

  18. Thanks for the hints.
    I liked 17d best but struggled with 16d.
    Always a pleasure to try to manage alone but grateful for the reasoning.

  19. Not at my sharpest today so this took a bit longer to solve. I quite enjoyed it to be honest; yes, solid is a good description. 23a was my favourite.
    Thanks to Mr Ron, and to Mr K for the review and entertainment.

  20. Perhaps I shouldn’t have bunged in chopping for the first word of 14a, just because I had the second word. It made sense to me at the time. I’ve never heard of the 9a expression so that’s a new one for me. 11a I had to delve deep into the old memory bank. 17a made me smile. Despite good weather continuing I’ve been glued to the box. The blue tit eggs are hatching today. Seven down, three more to go. Thank you setter and Mr Kitty.

  21. Lovely puzzle , lovely blog , thanks to everyone involved .
    I am familiar with 9a , didn’t know it had gone out of use .

  22. Not happy with 25a but apart from that very enjoyable. Favourites 12 20 and 23a. Looked at it on the train this morning but largely drew a blank. A day in the heat in London did not fry my brain and did in a reasonable time on the way home. Thanks setter. Will now look at Mr K’s hints and other comments in my 15 mins free WiFi on the train!

  23. Bit of a mixed bag for me. Never heard of “Glee club”, never heard the term “lie doggo” used in my life, and suspect I never will, and 19D didn’t read right but I didn’t know the answer anyway.
    On the upside I did like 23a, 6d and 15d, if only for Mr K’s lovely illustration.

  24. It all went together smoothly for us but we did have a moments doubt about whether we were missing some subtlety with 25a. Apparently not. A pleasant solve with 20a bring our favourite too.
    Thanks Mr Ron and Mr K.

  25. Looks like I will be the odd man out today as I found this solid but stolid. Although I did like 15d and 17d as joint COTD. Had heard of 9a but in the very distant past, and not really comfortable with 25a. Thanks to setter and Mr. K.

  26. Enjoyable throughout, maybe a ** for difficulty. Much of that was spent on 1d and 14ac where my mind went completely blank, despite being sat in front of the latter.

  27. Sorry folks – enjoyed it a lot – but was totally flummoxed after a long day at work – 14a – cutting or chopping or – well draining was the one I did not get.

    Stuffed me up for the rest of that quadrant so had to give up graciously.

    Maybe tomorrow…

    Very good puzzle though.

  28. Whats the award in 19d…’OM’??…dont get it….can any kind soul edify me please??

    1. In his hint for 19d our blogging teams WordPress Wizard has added a link to an explanation of the letters OM. The word award appears in blue in the hint and is also underlined. Try clicking on the link. He has also provided a link to information about the dancer concerned.

  29. Have not had a good start this week with any crosswords! Although now solved with a little help from the blog, can someone please explain how comp=typesetter?

    Thanks to all.

    1. Since Brian ‘left’ it has been a while since I’ve had to refer anyone to that useful thing called a dictionary. Here you will find that comp is an abbreviation for compositor – a printing term for someone who sets and corrects type

      1. Was that Brian the snail?

        Anyway thankyou, but I use Chambers and it does not appear to be there. I have been involved with typesetting since the 1980’s and have never heard the term (i.e. Comp). Something new everyday!

        Oh, and as a matter of protocol, i apologise for entering the answer even though it is a day late. Now back to today’s solve.

        1. The office Collins had an entry for comp the abbreviation as well as another for compositor

          You don’t need to worry about mentioning solutions during the week – it is only at the weekends when they form part of competition entries with a deadline still to come that they mustn’t be seen or heard

        2. Hi, Stone. I often link to the online Chambers 21st Century Dictionary because it presents a compact on-screen display. But its coverage falls short of the Chambers Dictionary that we refer to as the BRB. The free online Collins and Oxford dictionaries are more comprehensive. Both give comp as an informal word for compositor = typesetter. It’s also found in the 13th Edition of the BRB.

          1. Thanks Mr K. Just a bit of laziness really. Of course I use other dictionaries but I was just tidying up yesterday’s before today’s. Time is not on my side as I must get back to cleaning my vines:-)

  30. For 6D got confused with the film “Trainspotters” so had “reefer” as an answer !
    Entertaining blog (specially the nosediving fox re 15D) for which Thank You.
    2*/4* for a nice puzzle.

    1. Hi, Terry. I believe it was new to me as well, but it does appear from time to time in the Telegraph. For example, ‘England’s confusion over whether to lie doggo or make whoopee on a pitch at last showing signs of wear was evident in the variety of their dismissals’ and (from 2003) ‘David Davis has instructed his supporters to “lie doggo”, as one put it. “He is absolutely paranoid about appearing disloyal. We have been told nothing.” ‘

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