DT 28366 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28366 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Saturday Crossword Club

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As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct as “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow.


4a    Blue feathers thrown (8)
Our usual feathers followed by a verb meaning thrown

10a    Military two-step? (3,5)
This could be a military “two-step” but is actually far more aggressive – the question mark indicates that this is a very dodgy clue

11a    Go round using permit (6)
A two-letter word meaning using followed by a permit

13a    Nothing in temporary accommodation where maiden’s sheltered that’s soothing (8)
O (nothing), IN from the clue and some temporary accommodation around (where … sheltered) M(aiden)

16a    Comprehensive brushwork (8)
Two definitions – the second not related to painting!

19a    Catch ten wriggling fish (8)
An anagram (wriggling) of TEN followed by a verb meaning to fish

25a    Learners in swimming-bath going backwards move along in ungainly style (6)
L(earner) and L(earner) inside the reversal (going backwards) of a swimming-bath

26a    Essential to redraw triangle (8)
I like one-word anagrams of a single word – this is the second one today (the first being 12 Across)


1d    Where you may end up in stitches in more ways than one (7)
The answer applies to two very different locations – one where the stitches relate to laughing the other where they relate to sutures

2d    Contender Frank was a consumer (9)
A six-letter adjective meaning frank followed by a verb meaning was a consumer of food

4d    Big boss arranged credit or information on real diversifying (8-7)
An anagram (arranged) of CREDIT OR followed by some information and a further anagram (diversifying) of REAL

5d    Beckon over group that’s used in radio transmission (8)
A verb meaning to beckon followed by a group such as a musical group

7d    Partner’s issue, being on flight first (7)
Once the definition has been isolated this is quite easy – ON from the clue is preceded by a flight of stairs

15d    Global flier (8)
Two definitions – the second is not a bird!

18d    Drama, son becoming one of the glamorous idle rich? (7)
A drama performed on the stage followed by a male child

22d    No end of good fortune concerning money (5)
Most (no end) of some good fortune followed by a two-letter word meaning concerning or about

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The Quick Crossword pun: antic+quit+tea=antiquity



  1. Senf
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 11:42 am | Permalink

    Well, I hope that Virgilius is as benevolent as today’s setter when I am doing the solve for tomorrow’s blog – */***.

    There appeared to be a sprinkling of oldies but goodies, with a relatively low total clue count and more blank spaces than usual?

    Somewhat unusually for me, I completed the E side first; I normally have more of a ‘shotgun’ approach.

    Several contenders for favourite but I am going to settle on 14d.

    Thanks to the setter and BD.

    • Posted March 4, 2017 at 11:47 am | Permalink

      When the setter is this benevolent, it is very difficult to select clues that warrant hints.

      • crypticsue
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:02 pm | Permalink

        Very ‘easy to explain’ too for the blogger who has quite a lot of crosswords to draft reviews for this weekend :mail:

      • hoofityoudonkey
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 9:51 pm | Permalink

        I need all of the hints!!!

  2. Angellov
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 11:46 am | Permalink

    Thought this was going to be a killer as first read through yielded a nil return then NE corner fell into place and soon the rest slotted in. Several nicely testing clues but 14d probably Fav. Thanks Setter and BD.

  3. Rabbit Dave
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    1*/3*. I felt this was a bit of an odd mixture, almost seeming as if it could have been the product of two setters. It was certainly not difficult but I did enjoy a fair bit of it. A lot of the clues were commendably brief, but a few were verbose. In the latter category what a contrast there was between smooth (25a) and clunky (13a & 4d).

    I’m not fully convinced by “using” in 11a nor by “global” in 15d. 26a is an old chestnut which I am sure Mr Kitty can back up with data, or perhaps not today as it’s a prize puzzle. 21a is clever and caused a bit of head scratching for a while until the penny finally dropped.

    25a is my favourite long clue, with 19a taking the honours in the short category.

    Many thanks to Mr Ron and to BD.

    • Tantalus
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

      “The product of two setters…” Well said. Perhaps there is a Masterron? Or a Fferyllyddius? – or some Mr Ron and Doctor Hyde personality split.

      Thanks as ever to Messers Ron and Dave – enjoyed the crumb filled morning.

      Mrs & Mr T

    • Mr Kitty
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 5:18 pm | Permalink

      Hi, RD. I’m seeing six previous appearances of 26a, including three in 2013. Since it’s a prize puzzle I won’t say any more here, but I can post the details on the full review when it comes out.

  4. Aljanon
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 11:57 am | Permalink

    Yes, I agree with the previous comments because, on the first read-through, I thought that it was going to be something of a struggle and it wasn’t. Not wishing to be a dissenting voice, 14d was my favourite too.

    • Toadson
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:57 pm | Permalink


  5. LabradorsruleOK
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:05 pm | Permalink

    After yesterday’s slap in the face with a wet fish today’s seemed almost as benign as it gets.
    10a I found difficulty in making a military connection but the answer (I think) was pretty obvious. No real stand-outs for me.
    Thanks to setter & BD for review

  6. Kath
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:15 pm | Permalink

    I agree with everyone – quite a nice way to start off a Saturday morning – unlike discovering that Sounds of the Sixties has been moved to 6.00am. :sad:
    The first word of 10a was my last bit – pretty dim.
    I tried to make 18d an anagram for a little while.
    I missed the hidden 21a for too long – nothing new there.
    I liked 8a and 1 and 18d. My favourite was 25a.
    With thanks to Mr Ron and to BD.
    Sunny – off to the garden then MPP and NTSPP although I’m not holding out much hope there – I find Radler’s crosswords more difficult than any other setter, apart from Elgar.

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:16 pm | Permalink

      When I tested the Radler, I said ‘who are you and what have you done with Radler’ so you may find this one more friendly than some we’ve encountered in the past

      • Kath
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

        Thanks – I’ll have a go later. I suspect my problem will be going into it with a rather defeatist attitude, a bit like I used to do with Toughies although I’ve almost got beyond that now.

      • Senf
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 3:52 pm | Permalink

        Anything to do with honourable mention in 19a? :smile:

    • Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

      I knew abot SotS, but I always record it anyway. Although I may get used to the new format, for me Tony Blackburn is too fond of the sound of his own voice, which I find very tedious.

      • Aljanon
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:35 pm | Permalink

        I totally agree with you, Dave, but it’s infinitely more preferable listening to him in that time slot rather than Anneka Rice…

    • Miffypops
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

      Sounds of the Sixties should be moved to the bin. Time to move on.

      • crypticsue
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:55 pm | Permalink

        I’ve looked at the Big Red Instructions very carefully and am wondering whether they allow me to edit out sacrilege before BD sees it.

      • Tantalus
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

        Still it’s better than tv from the same era – “Television contracts the imagination and radio expands it.” To quote Terry Wogan and Ed Morrow.

      • LetterboxRoy
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:26 pm | Permalink

        Hi Pop-Pickers, been doing some chaarity work, but I don’t like to talk about it. Couldn’t agree more with both MP and Tantalus.
        Never had at TV, they are a waste of money, time and space. Unless you are trying to become brain dead, that is.

        For the under fifties.
        For the music fans, under fifty.

        Skip the stupid ads :smile:

        • Merusa
          Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

          I dunno, true there’s a lot of trash on TV, but there’s a lot of very good stuff to enjoy. You have to be selective.

      • LabradorsruleOK
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:47 pm | Permalink

        Except in the case of Mr Dylan I suppose.Exception that proves the rule?
        Sorry forgot, there are no rules.

        • Posted March 4, 2017 at 7:17 pm | Permalink

          The only Dylan worth listening to was recorded in the sixties.

      • Badger
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 7:09 pm | Permalink

        Are we talking about the 1860s here? Mahler, Brahms,Tchaikovsky etc?
        Far more enlivening, although don’t hear much of the former on Classic FM, so You tube is the answer here.
        Last one in was 10a- first word was contentious, I felt, but thx BD -I would have put the wrong one in?…
        Enjoyed it thought fighting my way up from the bottom.

        Thanks to setter for his efforts!

  7. Thebear
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 12:59 pm | Permalink

    First word of 10a had me for a while but going through the alphabet got me there. 21a made me smile as doing some work with the band mentioned…40 years since that iconic album New Boots and Panties, seems like yesterday hearing it for the first time when a long haired art student. */***

  8. jane
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:05 pm | Permalink

    A gentle Saturday workout – saves the brain strain for Mr. Radler!
    1&14d raised the biggest smiles.

    Thanks to Mr. Ron and to BD.

  9. Michael
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:18 pm | Permalink

    It seems to me that the only contentious one is 10a, xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx who knows what was in the Setters mind?

    Apart from that, it took me a while to get into my stride but it came together splendidly – good fun!

    A lot of sport today, I’m watching Man Utd v Bournemouth, I’m going to watch Bath v Wasps later and then Liverpool v Arsenal at teatime – phew it’s all go!

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

      I’ve had to xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx the middle bit of your first sentence as you are straying into things not allowed by the words written in red!!

      • Tantalus
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

        Are ther any xxxxxxx cakes in the naughty corner?

        • crypticsue
          Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

          There’s a very nice Sainsbury’s Coconut and Raspberry Cake in the kitchen, but it is far too delicious (it has hidden pockets of raspberry jam) to share with naughty people.

  10. Young Salopian
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 1:26 pm | Permalink

    This was one of the easiest prize crosswords for some time IMHO, but there were enough fun clues to make it enjoyable nonetheless. 14d probably the best of the bunch and 1*/3* overall.

    Thanks to the Saturday setter and BD. Off to Birmingham shortly for an evening concert, while keeping an ear open for the visit of Wasps to Bath.

    • Miffypops
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

      Please can you telll us which concerts you go to. It could be anything

      • Young Salopian
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

        We tend to go to the City of Birmingham Symphony Orchestra concerts. We have an eclectic choice in music, from rock, through jazz to classical, but with a preference for the latter.

  11. Miffypops
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 2:50 pm | Permalink

    A piece of cake puzzle solved in our attic garret in Grassington. We had a nice 7 mile walk and a couple of beers in The Foresters. We are now in Wharfedale Rugby Club where the beer count is rising and will continue
    to do so.

  12. Posted March 4, 2017 at 3:17 pm | Permalink

    Nothing much to say except thanks to the setter and to BD.

    Happy Caturday all.

  13. Merusa
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

    I agree, this was a walk in the park, but I thought it was most enjoyable.
    Fave was 14d. Last in was 15d as I spell the “flier” part differently.
    Thanks to setter, with a huge whew after yesterday, and to BD for the hints.

  14. Gwizz
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

    Argh! Timed out….
    This was like the Saturday puzzles of old… i.e. a piece of cake. Nothing to get excited about and for me therefore no real favourites. 1/2.5* overall.
    Thanks to the setter, and to BD for the hints.

  15. mcmillibar
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 4:08 pm | Permalink

    I think this puzzle is more of a recruitment campaign by the DT Crossword Editor than a serious offering to signed-up cruciverbalists. Really? This was a nice enough puzzle but should not be a prize back-pager. I am sure the Telegraph’s researchers tell them the value of puzzles and in particular, the Cryptic crossword, for creating buyer loyalty in these days when broadsheets are gradually becoming freesheets.

    Back to the crossword though, NW corner was the hardest for me though, today that term is relative with a particular liking for 8a. I can’t rate it because I don’t have ‘half-stars’ on my keyboard.

    • Angellov
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:13 pm | Permalink

      Yes indeed by making the Saturday challenge simple the DT obtains lots of prize crossword entries and thereby names/contacts to target for marketing. 😏

  16. Orphan Annie
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 5:28 pm | Permalink

    This has cheered me up. I was feeling very 4a as I have not had a good solving week. Started at bottom right hand corner got nearly all the down clues, worked my way through across clues and then completed the few empty spaces. Happy old person off to try GK in Saturday,. Now reading paper via app on tablet because of arthritic paws but still need paper copy to do crossword.

    PS please when are we going to get crossword from birthday bash that we contributed clues for?

  17. Florence
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 5:44 pm | Permalink

    At first I thought ‘oh no, not another one like yesterday for me to struggle through’. It all came together in the end, but I think it’s the first time I have started in the the NE corner and worked my way round in a clockwise direction filling in a quarter at a time. I was stuck on 19a for a while as I had the wrong definition, and tried to make an anagram of two of the words in the clue. There must be others who tried the same. Favourites were 18d and 4d. Thank you setter and BD. Must dash, off to the cinema.

  18. Vancouverbc
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    */**. This was an easy start for a Saturday morning. And they give prizes for this? 😎 Thanks to the setter and BD. The rain has moved on for a bit so time to get the dogs walked.

  19. Paso Doble
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:18 pm | Permalink

    We didn’t find this as easy as as everyone else but good fun anyway.
    Thanks to Mr. Ron and BD.

  20. Framboise
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:27 pm | Permalink

    After Yesterday’s for me ‘fiendish’ puzzle, today’s was rather benign and restored my solving confidence! Our little Fifi is taking rather a lot of my time so have not been very present on the blog. 18d made me smile. Many thanks to setter and to BD.

    • Merusa
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 6:39 pm | Permalink

      She’s growing! Still a little beauty.

  21. Una
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 7:42 pm | Permalink

    Phew ! ( After yesterday).
    I liked my last two clues to be written in 10 and 7d .
    Thanks to the setter and BD.

  22. Jon_S
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 7:46 pm | Permalink

    I found this on the difficult side, with a couple of cryptic definitions that made me half wonder if Rufus was involved somewhere along the line. Mind you, the setter was being very kind with 4d which opened up the grid nicely.

  23. BusyLizzie
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 8:00 pm | Permalink

    I agree this seemed to be a puzzle of two halves. The whole of the east side went in fairly quickly, but only a couple on the west. Then they gradually fell into place. I enjoy it when the clues are satisfyingly cryptic without requiring electronic help. I’ll go with the flow and vote 14d as the favorite, but it was close with 18a. As expats here in South Florida for 35 years we still have the radio tuned to the BBC during breakfast, picking different parts of the country. Current favorite is BBC Sussex as we had a great holiday there last year. Have to confess we still like Sounds of the Sixties also, and were happy that Tony Blackburn is back on the air. And as your 6am is our 11am, that is not a problem for us 😊

  24. pommette
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 8:28 pm | Permalink

    Evening all – we thought this pretty easy too and we completed quickly.
    But I think we are being a bit thick. As we still can’t parse 10a! :(

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 9:09 pm | Permalink

      BD’s hint says it all really

      • pommette
        Posted March 4, 2017 at 9:56 pm | Permalink

        As I said Sue, we are probably being a bit thick.
        Definitely a dodgy clue for me.

        • Kath
          Posted March 4, 2017 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

          The first bit of 10a was my last answer.

  25. Rob
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 9:39 pm | Permalink

    I’m sorry but I found this impossible – I didn’t even understand the hints! Far too many clues within clues for me – Hopefully different setter next week.

    • hoofityoudonkey
      Posted March 4, 2017 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

      I could not do any of this either, three on the trot now.
      I’m with you, I can’t get any of the answers from the hints either!!

  26. Salty Dog
    Posted March 4, 2017 at 9:53 pm | Permalink

    1*/2*, but I took a few minutes to get a toehold. I’m not sure I’ve come across this setter before; the way the clues work seems unfamiliar. If I have to pick a favourite, it’s 10a. Thanks to the setter, and of course the hinter.

  27. Robin Newman
    Posted March 5, 2017 at 5:15 pm | Permalink

    Witty and enjoyable;
    leaves me time to have a stab at Friday’s toughie ………………..

  28. Jose
    Posted March 6, 2017 at 11:06 am | Permalink

    I did this one Saturday teatime and thought it was OK, for a Saturday Prize that is, and found it to be soaring up to the dizzy heights of being nearly average for a back-pager. Not particularly difficult but moderately entertaining/enjoyable. 2*/3*.