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Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27873

Hints and tips by Kath

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BD Rating — Difficulty ****Enjoyment ****

Good morning everyone. It’s not a very nice one in Oxford – its grey and drizzly but the crossword will soon brighten things up. This is a Ray T Thursday without any doubt at all. Good luck, keep calm and carry on to all of you who find them difficult and I hope that the rest of you enjoy it. I thought it was quite difficult – I’ll be interested to hear what everyone thinks so please leave a comment.

The answers are hidden under the things that say “Click here” so only do that if you need to see them.

Thanks to the 2Kiwis for their ‘ecompany’ and moral support at silly o’clock last night. Unlike last week I didn’t need their help this time but it was nice to know it was there if I got stuck.


1a            Bolted, say, ordinary passable rubbish (12)
GOBBLEDEGOOK — Time to get out the lego and put some bits together. Start off with a word meaning bolted or ate very fast, then the two letters that mean say or for example, follow that with O(rdinary) and finish off with the two letters that is a way of saying passable or fair.


9a            Partisan guerrilla manoeuvres, deposing left for right (9)
IRREGULAR — An anagram (manoeuvres) of GUERRILLA but you need to swap one of the L’s for an R (deposing left for right).

10a         Open pastry dish empty on stove (5)
AGAPE — A stove, a big one that sometimes has four ovens and is typically found in large country houses, is followed by a three letter pastry dish without its middle letter (empty).


11a         Blunt? Sharpen and sculpt edges (6)
HONEST — A word meaning sharpen or grind down with the first and last letters (edges) of S(culp)T.

12a         Means to save one trapped by large cat (8)
LIFELINE — Begin with the one letter abbreviation for L(arge) then the letter that looks like the Roman number one and follow that with an adjective that describes any of the cat family (one trapped by large cat).


13a         Run naked with redhead in small wood (6)
STREAK — The one letter abbreviation for S(mall) and the first letter of R(edhead) ie the ‘head’ of R(ed) are followed by a hard durable wood that is grown in India and Malaya. Just for a change I decided to give a miss to the piccy that often accompanies this answer!

15a         Criminal’s priors oddly preceding Ecstasy scheme (8)
CONSPIRE — Begin with one of the usual crossword criminals – don’t forget the ‘S – then you need the odd letters (oddly) of priors and finish that off with E(cstasy).

18a         Watched range, as some say it’s for cooking (8)
SAUCEPAN — Two homophones here (as some say) – the first is one meaning watched or observed and then another meaning range or extent. I can’t think of any other way of pronouncing either of them but quite often when we have a clue like this someone will say that it doesn’t sound right at all – regional variations, I suppose.

19a         Make attractive rear prominent feature (6)
ENDEAR — A short word for rear or back is followed by a ‘prominent feature’ – ie it’s one of the two sticky outy bits (prominent) that are on either side of your head.

21a         In club, let her speak — talks nonsense (8)
BLETHERS — One of my dreaded ‘lurkers’ (a hidden answer) that I so often miss. The answer is in the middle of the clue (in) and spans the second, third, fourth and fifth words.

23a         Thrown round? (6)
DISCUS — This ‘round’ is heavy and wooden and is ‘thrown’ as far as possible in athletic contests. It was my last answer – by the time I got it I could happily have thrown it at anyone.


26a         Consumed tuck in school, reportedly (5)
EATEN — A homophone (reportedly) of an expensive private school for boys.

27a         Drunk takes in beer, half cut — mixed drink (9)
SNAKEBITE — An anagram (drunk) of TAKES IN and the first two letters of BE(er) – (half cut). It’s a drink made from equal quantities of cider and lager. If I’d ‘met’ this one before I’d forgotten it and I’m not sorry about that – it sounds absolutely ghastly.

28a         Changing usual partner is weird (12)
SUPERNATURAL — An anagram (changing) of USUAL PARTNER.



1d            Girls engaged in some hosting and serving initially (7)
GEISHAS — Take the first letters (initially) of the rest of the words in the clue.


2d            Heraldic symbol concerning noble (5)
BARON — A horizontal band across a shield in heraldry is followed by a short preposition meaning concerning or about.

3d            Member arrives behindhand to pass law (9)
LEGISLATE — A member or limb is followed by what could be split as 2,4 meaning arrives behindhand or has become delayed.

4d            Last of Highland drink in glen (4)
DALE — The last letter of (highlan)D – (last of) – is followed by an alcoholic drink of the beery kind.


5d            Train roaring around second station (8)
GARRISON — An anagram (train) of ROARING which contains (around) the one letter abbreviation for S(econd). This one took me a while as I messed up which was the definition and which was the anagram indicator.

6d            Harangue over tax (5)
ORATE — The one letter cricketing abbreviation for O(ver) is followed by a word meaning tax or charge.

7d            Clean horrible stain on one’s evening top (8)
SANITISE — An anagram (horrible) of STAIN is followed by (on) the letter that looks like the Roman numeral for one, with the ‘S and then the first letter (top) of E(vening).

8d            Honour always pinned by Queen getting elevated (6)
REVERE — A reversal (getting elevated) of the two letters for our Queen contains (pinned by) another word for always or permanently.

14d         Run without hindrance in game involving chance (8)
ROULETTE — This run is a noun and means a course or a way. It contains (without) a short word that, in tennis, means a service is cancelled because of an obstruction or hindrance.


16d         Feeling thrilled over blokes consumed by sex (9)
SENTIMENT — A word meaning thrilled or enraptured is followed by (over) two letters that mean sex appeal which contain some blokes or chaps (blokes consumed by sex).

17d         Almost loose pass before England game (8)
LACROSSE — The first two letters of a three letter word (almost) that means loose or careless, then a word for pass or travel over and finish off with E(ngland).


18d         Cried terribly putting blonde head on mattress (6)
SOBBED — A two letter word meaning terribly or very much are followed by the first letter (head) of B(londe) and follow that with a mattress or somewhere to sleep.

20d         Soldiers raised balloon creating UFO scare here? (7)
ROSWELL — A reversal (raised) of the two letters for members of the armed forces not holding commissions and a verb to balloon or increase in size rapidly. My ignorance meant I didn’t know that in 1947 a USAF surveillance balloon crashed at a ranch in *******, New Mexico, prompting claims of a military cover up but the rest of you probably knew all that!

22d         Person of faith indulged, essentially (5)
HINDU — Our second lurker or hidden answer (essentially).

24d         Heartless cricketer that is getting runs, he declares (5)
CRIER — The first and last letters (heartless) of C(rickete)R, followed by another two letters meaning ‘that is’ and the one letter cricketing abbreviation for R(uns) gives you an official maker of proclamations.

25d         Chief of staff welcoming number one (4)
MAIN — A nice straightforward one to finish up with. A short word meaning staff or crew contains (welcoming) the letter that looks like a one.

I liked 1 and 12a and 3 and 7d. My favourite was 20d.

The Quickie Pun:- SAKE + RID + ART = SACRED HEART

107 comments on “DT 27873

  1. A good puzzle for me, a bit tricky in places but very enjoyable. Thanks to Ray T and to Kath for the review.

  2. 3*/5* for a wonderful Thursday puzzle. I managed the first three quarters smoothly in about par for 2* time but struggled in the SE taking me up to 3*.

    20d was my last one in and I used Google to check my answer. I needed Kath’s excellent review to parse 17d.

    Many thanks to Ray T and to Kath.

      1. Australians now 6 wickets down! Crossword v enjoyable also – though very tough in SE corner. Thx to Kath and Ray T.

        1. West Bridgford will be buzzing tonight after this performance at TB. Time to rally the lads & soak up the atmosphere with a few sherbets & a curry.

        1. Apologies to Kath … there shouldn’t be any mention of this invidious game when you are in the chair.

          Many thanks for the blog … especially for explaining 14d.

          I sincerely hope that “silly o’clock” wasn’t as late as “stupid o’clock”?

          I’m not a great fan of Monsieur RayT … but this was definitely one of his better ones!

        2. Don’t you just love the Aussies – they’re trying to blame the selectors, the green pitch, the English conditions, not being experienced with the moving ball blah blah blah etc etc

          1. As someone who understands absolutely nothing about cricket (I have learnt some of the terms used from this blog but don’t know what any of them really mean) how on earth can a cricketer not be experienced with a ‘moving ball’ – what do they expect? A ball sitting on the ground waiting for someone to pick it up, kick it (oh no – silly me – that’s football or rugby) or what? I give up . . . http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_sad.gif

  3. I needed a 12A from the hints to enable me to complete, I would rate it the same as Kath & liked the picture of Miffypops tea mug? many thanks to the setter & Kath for a splendid review.

  4. Enjoyed this one and was able to complete more than yesterday’s before needed Kath’s hints. The southern half was the most difficult, with 21, 23 and 27 holding things up, together with the wrong definition for 14d.

    3.5*\4* for me, very enjoyable.

    Thanks Kath for some great hints and the setter.

  5. Your hint for 13a is not quite right, Katherine. The R isn’t followed by the wood, but contained in it.Is

    Is it pedantic to say that a ball is round, where the answer to 23a is circular?

  6. You’re quite right about my hint for 13a – apologies.
    Unless you’re going to call me Kath which is what everyone else calls me I’d prefer to be called Kathleen, as that’s my name.
    As for round or circular – I’m not sure – perhaps someone else can bail me out here?

    1. Damn – that’s a reply to Vince, fairly obviously, but equally obviously I didn’t hit the reply button. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

      1. I also finger trouble. I apologise for calling you Katherine. I intended to write Kath, but my tablet’s predictive text changed it without my noticing.

        1. I apologise as well. Sorry for calling you Catherine, Vince. It will not happen again.

  7. Never get bored with RayT.
    1d and 13a brought me a smile.
    Loved the surface of 7d too.
    Thanks to RayT and to Kath for the review.

  8. I had no idea what 27A was, and now I know I wish I didn’t. I also just didn’t see 25D at all. Liked 12A and 20D. Thanks Ray T. and Kath.

    1. I could never drink straight lager. Always had it with a bit of lime cordial or a bit of cider, but it makes it very gassy.
      I almost didn’t see 25d either because it was printed on a second page.http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_wink.gif

  9. Jeepers, that was hard work – did someone slip a ‘Beam’ into a Mr.T envelope? http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-phew.gif I dread to think what Brian made of it……..http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_wacko.gif

    Some lovely stuff here – agree with all of Kath’s ‘likes’ but would put 18a into the favourite spot because it made me laugh so much.
    4*/4* seems about right to me.

    All the usual gushing compliments to Mr. T and a huge ‘well done’ to Kath – don’t worry, my GK wasn’t up to 20d either and I had to check my answer with Mr. Google!

    1. Silly me.
      I was looking at 18a in the toughie and was wondering why that spooner made you laugh.

    1. Come along Brian. You said that last time around. Mr T gives us a great deal of variety in his puzzles. The least you could do is vary your comments. Perhaps you would rather go ten rounds with Mike Tyson in his prime. Anyway apart from that – how are you getting on this week? Nearly finished? Well done that man.

      1. No this time I really mean it. Managed 3 answers and two of them I don’t really understand. Is Ray T English? I get the impression that English is not his first language which gives him an odd way of looking at things.
        I even struggled with the Quickie today, his definitions are so often just too off the wall to make much sense.

        1. BrIan – now I’m cross with you. I think that, a lot of the time, you’re pretty good value and do a great job as head devil’s advocate. I also think that today you’ve gone too far. To describe a Xword as ‘HIDEOUS’, especially with the capitalisation which is the equivalent of shouting, is just plain rude, as is ‘horrid’ which you’ve used before.
          Lots of people find Thursday Ray T crosswords difficult but I think you do for two reasons, possibly more. The first is because you’ve decided that you can’t do them so you go into them with a defeatist attitude. This I can understand as I was a bit like that with Toughies – I’m now getting beyond that with Toughies and, with a bit of perseverance, I think you can too with Thursday Xwords. I think the second reason that you find them difficult is because Ray T has a very wide vocabulary so that the first thing that springs into your mind is probably way down the list in his, although he will, of course, have thought of it first. Lots of cryptic Xword solving is to do with lateral thinking – I think that if you learnt to think, to use a phrase that I hate, a bit more “outside the box” you could happily do Thursday crosswords.
          As for, “Is Ray T English?” Well, yes, he his. He is an English teacher and lives in Paris. I’m absolutely sure that he teaches his students really well.

          1. Hi Kath. I think I can see Brians point. However, I think he is justified in describing a crossword as horrid or hideous if that is how he finds it. On the other hand, personal remarks about the setter are propably out of order. I also think that being ‘told off’ for expressing an opinion with which other contributors may disagree is also out of order, and I think the unsolicited psychological analysis proffered is a bit much. While we are all appreciative of the skills and efforts of the setters, I think that honest opinion and freedom to express views should be expressed without getting a lecture from co-bloggers. Just my humble opinion, of course…………

            1. I didn’t mean to ‘lecture’. These were just my thoughts as I thought them. If I’ve offended you or Brian I apologise.

              1. Hi Kath. No offence at all on my part. As I said, we are all entitled to express our opinions, you yours, I mine, and Brian his. Thanks for the hints today…must have been quite a difficult one to do.

              2. I am not offended but I am a little surprised by the vehement response. It was not and never has been my intention to level any form of personal criticism at any setter, I was merely exploring ways of trying to understand why I find his puzzles so impenetrable. I am regularly making progress with the Toughies so I am learning to ‘think out of the box’ not an easy thing for a scientist to do as we are taught to be serial and logical thinkers. I do try to understand his puzzles and always follow the hints to try and learn but it is an uphill struggle. I am simply incapable of getting on his wavelength in perhaps the same way that others find with Giovannis. My responses are just a way of expressing my frustration with my own incompetence with this one setter when I am quite competent with all the other DT setters.
                Mrs B finds Ray Ts puzzles as difficult as I but she has now decided that on a Ray T week, she is going to remove the crossword to keep my blood pressure down. I have tried long enough!

                1. I’m loathe to wade in here Brian but there is something you said that I just can’t bear to let go by unchallenged.

                  Science is a very creative discipline and requires considerable lateral and intuitive thinking. Yes, it is bound by logic and reason but scientific research (as apposed to application) is about as creative and imaginative as it gets, I’d say. Lots of computation involved too of course, but these days we have computers to help with that.

                  Anyway, just had add my thoughts, albeit belatedly. Just as an example, Mr K and I are physicists (well, I’m a lapsed one :( ) and we both very much enjoy RayT puzzles. There may be hope for you yet!

                  As for the rest, well, that conversation will doubtless resume another day :).

    2. Oh dear – I’m not sure whether hideous is worse than horrid or the other way round.

    3. I agree with Brian here! …….very hard and dont get some of the clues even when I have the answers. I dont usually have so much trouble finishing…….been doing this for ages now and only got half way…and that was with using so of the hints. Im just not on the right wavelength today……maybe Im getting distracted by trying to watch the cricket at the same time? Perhaps come back to it later.

      1. I love Brian’s posts.
        Usually because they show me how much better I am at solving clues.
        Makes me feel superior.

  10. SE corner held me up, and my concentration was further interrupted on a regular basis by the amazing goings-on at Trent Bridge. Records that have stood since the 19th century were tumbling at a rate of knots. Back to the puzzle – a couple of the clues were downright misleading, while some were clever. Overall I quite liked it, and would mark it 3/3, the enjoyment marked down because of (as I saw it), some dodgy clueing. Well done Kath, and thanks to our setter.

  11. Thanks to Ray T and to Kath for the review and hints. A super puzzle, very enjoyable, but tricky. Got held up by 10&12a&6d. Then by 25d&27a, the latter was the last in. Favourite was 20d. Was 4*/4* for me. Come on England, fantastic.

  12. An enjoyable Ray T, tricky but manageable. Thought 18a was very witty. Also liked the thought of the naked redhead running through the woods! Thanks to all involved.

  13. I solved this puzzle, the Toughie and the Times on the bastion of Walmer Castle while our visitors and Mr CS did the tour I did last Fri.

    Even allowing for an interruption to tell 3 little girls about the Goodwin Sands, this took the longest solving time

    Thanks to Mr T for the entertainment and Kath for the illustrated explanations

    1. I’d like to believe that it takes at least a week to do a tour of Walmer Castle, but I’m guessing it doesn’t. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cry.gif

  14. This was, for me, trickier than the toughie. Some very good clues with the usual Ray T trademarks and thoroughly enjoyable. I’ll go for 1a as my favourite today.

    Thanks to Ray T for the puzzle and Kath (or is that now Catherine?) for her usual splendid review.

    The toughie is very do-able and hilarious, especially with regard to 9a – nearly fell off my chair http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_yahoo.gif

    1. I get cross enough when really close friends who I’ve known for thirty plus years still spell me with a C. I know that it doesn’t really matter but . . .

      1. I’m sorry for provoking such a reaction Kath it was only meant in jest. Please accept my humble apology http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_rose.gif

      2. Someone I’m quite close to has the same problem the other way round. At Christmas time I browse the cards and am amazed by how many friends and even family have spelt her name with a K instead of a C. Meanwhile, I use an M – for Mum :).

  15. Anticipating that today’s puzzle may be one of Mr T’s I resolved to give it three, rather than the usual two, runs though. This produced an additional six solutions as well as lighting up 1a and 2d leaving ‘just’ 12 to solve.

    Subsequently solved only 17d, 10a, 16d and 19a finishing with eight unsolved.

    Although there was the usual array of good clues (I liked 3, 17 and 21d) it was clear early on that I wasn’t likely to finish, inevitably reducing the enjoyment as well as the incentive to battle on so four/two for me.

  16. Like Jane, “jeepers that was tough”, and I agree.
    I never got 27a or 10a, and some I bunged in with no clue why, e.g. 17d and 12a … so many thanks to Kath for sorting that out and for your splendid review.
    I find RayT a huge challenge but I wouldn’t call this hideous, Brian, even though I missed a couple. Fave had to be 18a.

  17. Lots of inserting what it could only be and then justifying why. Really clever, especially 1a, 15a, 27a, 16d and 17d. Would not liked to have had Kath’s responsibility today.

  18. ***/****


    Struggled with large bits of this. Missed the hidden in 21a. Couldn’t see why 27a was what it was for awhile. Got there in the end.

    And what fun it was.

    Many thanks to RayT and to Katherine for a great blog.

    My brain refuses to look at the Toughie.

    1. Oh dear! http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_negative.gif People are going to be in such trouble if this goes on.
      Have a go at the Toughie, Hanni – it’s a very good one and if your brain’s feeling a bit knackered it’s not as tricky as this one.

  19. A couple of weeks ago I really struggled with a RayT, but managed this one with only a small amount of help. Either it was slightly easier than the last time (it was memorable in that I couldn’t do it), or maybe I am just getting used to a RayT. Thanks for the review Kath, which was needed for 19a and 20d. Favourites were 1a and 3d ( though I looked at 1a and shouted out balderdash … which didn’t have enough letters, or relate to bolted in any way). Back to the drawing board with it. Didn’t finish yesterday as I had a University friend staying, and lots to catch up on. May finish it a bit later, but obviously too late to comment on it. Thanks RayT for an enjoyable puzzle. Maybe at long last I am getting on the right wavelength.http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_smile.gif

    1. Good – you think you might be getting on to the right wave length. Once you do that you will love Ray T crosswords. Just don’t listen to the Brians . . . .
      Oh – and by the way – it’s never too late to comment – whoever does the hints gets an email every time there is a new comment and anyway lots of people read the comments again the following day. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_smile.gif

  20. I found this quite hard but had to go out and found I got most of the rest when I got back. Except for 23a, which I guessed as circus, now I know why it didn’t make sense so thank you, Kath. I thought the pun on the quick crossword was Care + Rid + Art = Carried Out so thank you also for that, Kath. Also to Ray T who must have a very fiendish mind!

  21. Evening all. Very many thanks to Kath for the review and to all for your comments. As always, much appreciated.


    1. Evening to you as well Ray T. As usual it’s great to see the setters dropping in and having their own comments – so thankshttp://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_good.gif

    2. It is always rather special when setter drops in, thank you for yet another serious brain stretcher for me

    3. Thank you so much for calling in and commenting. It is, as always, really appreciated.
      Night night to you . . .

  22. Difficult today – too difficult fo me – I’ll go back and watch the Cricket and put this one behind me!

  23. Well I agree with you Kath, this was tricky (4*/4*) and I went loopy with 12a – how about tigerine! – and 23a – I had circle but knew it was not right. Threw in the towel for 19a and 20d so needless to say that I was eagerly awaiting your review – How clever and brave of you to do this! Many thanks to Ray T for an enjoyable puzzle I wished I had completed without help. Mr Framboise is glued to the television mesmerised by the English Team success…

  24. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-phew.gif Need supper and wine, in no particular order as they say!
    Back later to reply to write a few replies so, for now at least, http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_bye.gif

  25. Thought this was difficult, but persevered and finally bunged in 25 to complete it, without being totally sure why. Thought 18a was very clever and my favourite. Completion engendered relief rather than enjoyment, but it was a really good challenge, especially after yesterday, where I was nowhere near Jays wavelength. 4*/3* today.

  26. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cry.gif http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_cry.gif I am not going to live up to my name today. Had tooth out this morning which went horribly wrong and I struggled with crossword. Bottom half went in reasonably well but the top half defeated me. I should have known 1a OH’s favourite word, but once I started reading Kath’s helpful comments it began to drop into place. Thanks to Kath and Ray T, perhaps next week I will do better.

    1. Poor you, Hilary. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_sad.gif
      You’re quite entitled to have a ‘bad’ crossword day after a morning like that. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_rose.gif

    2. Thinking of you Hilary, and hope that having your tooth out solves whatever problem you have had. I had an infected wisdom tooth a few years ago and walked the floorboards for three weeks in agony. Hope you feel better tomorrow.

    3. Oh dear – poor you. Would a little http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_rose.gif help? If it doesn’t then you should resort to alcohol and drugs and have a good sleep. I think that you should just forget about the crossword today and not beat yourself up about it.

    4. I hope you feel better in the morning Hilary. I reckon Reg Carter would have crafted a fine cartoon of you with your jaw in a sling knotted on top of your head.

  27. Thought this was difficult, but persevered and finally bunged in 25 to complete it, without being totally sure why. Thought 18a was very clever and my favourite. Completion engendered relief rather than enjoyment, but it was a really good challenge, especially after yesterday, where I was nowhere near Jays wavelength. 4*/3* today.

    Thanks to Kath and RayT – still 2 clues to finish the quickie. Perhaps will look at the toughie after previous comments.

  28. Got it with the hints for a few in the bottom half.

    Re the hint for 27a it’s fairly nasty – but not as nasty as if you add Pernod and black currant – which is then called a Purple Nasty – for many reasons!!

  29. Well! That was awful! Very clever puzzle, but not for me. I did manage to finish it……eventually, but had to use some of the hints. Earlier this afternoon I was really struggling, and only had about half the clues, so gave up in disgust. But this evening I returned to the horror… And surprisingly was able to almost finish it in no time….why does that happen? Anyway, some of the answers were a bit iffy in my opinion…I still don’t really understand 18a…..unless the first part of the clue is pronounced as ‘sus’ instead of ‘sorce’……difficult if one is an RP speaker! Would never have got 27a in a million years! I thought 20d was a great clue. All very clever, but for me not very enjoyable at all, too convoluted and a bit to contrived. Thank Heavens for the cricket!! 4*/0* thanks to Kath for the (much needed) hints and to the setter…..perhaps eventually I might twig your wavelength!

  30. Well, l enjoyed it! Right on the 2/3* cusp, and a solid 4* for satisfaction. Liz – l made 18a “saw span”, which sounds like “saucepan”, and l’m afraid it’s my favourite clue (although 27a came close, in memory of some absolutely awful headaches during my misspent youth when l was first introduced to the concoction in question!). Ta to Ray T, and to Kath for the review.

      1. How many Liz (s) do we have? Or is it just a change of avatar? I refer to post 11

        1. Hi SL. No its just me. How observant of you to notice my funny face had changed……I missed it completely! I wonder if its anything to do with my having to put my ID in everytime I comment…..something to do with biscuits??..doesnt seem to recognise me.

      1. I can neither confirm nor deny the existence of any such excesses once l was wearing the Queen’s uniform. Mainly because l can’t remember…

  31. This puzzle was solved quite easily on the number 29 bus owing to the tube strike in London.

  32. How can you tell who the setter is, and do you know why the Telegraph don’t mention his/her name? Meanwhile I’m struggling; I seem to have most of it to the left of a diagonal going NE/SW and nothing to the right. Trying not to give in too easily.

    1. Hi Sam. Have a look in the FAQ’s. I think it’s mentioned in there.

      Don’t give up. RayT can be tricky but worth sticking at. And lots of people to help here.

    2. Hi Sam,
      Being obviously new to this blog, you’re going to receive a nice welcome in the not too distant future.
      In the meantime, do feel free to navigate the site and when you come to FAQ which means Frequently Asked Questions, you will find at N° 28 if my memory serves me right, a listing of the setters.
      Welcome from me too.

  33. My first ever visit to a test match. Not very much happened ;) The DT never emerged from my bag. Solve them tomorrow.

  34. I really liked this. Found it pretty tough, but got there in the end and very much enjoyed the ride.

    Thanks to RayT and Kath. Sterling work by both.

  35. I call them “run-on clues” , Kath calls them “lurkers” (22d for instance). What is the official title in cruciverbalist speak?

    1. I called them included words. This blog prefers the term Hidden Words. We like lurkers. Hiding away in the clue laughing at you and daring you to spot them. They are cleverest when spanning several words and two lines of the clue.

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