DT 27827 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27827 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Saturday Crossword Club

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As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Don’t forget that you can give your assessment of the puzzle. Five stars if you thought it was great, one if you hated it, four, three or two if it was somewhere in between.

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct a “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow.


1a    An Italian school’s language (8)
Someone from a particular Italian city followed by SCH(ool)

6a    He is in finest order (6)
Put HE inside an adjective meaning the finest to get a verb meaning to order or command

9a    Servant wearing short skirt (6)
Split as (4,2) this servant could be wearing a short skirt

10a    Ministerial rites arranged in travel regularly (8)
An anagram (arranged) of RITES inside a verb meaning to travel regularly or make regular journeys over a particular route

13a    Nice views might be seen through it (6,6)
Reword this as “views of Nice” and it becomes obvious!

21a    Suppress the endless nonsense and let loose (8)
Start with TH[e] without its final letter (endless) then add some nonsense and an anagram (loose) of LET

24a    Stampede over long grass (6)
A two-letter word meaning over or above followed by some long grass

26a    One’s tied up with drip that’s not welcome in garden (8)
What can be tied in a piece of rope followed by a drip or wimp


2d    Gold book that is getting bound in the East (6)
The heraldic term for gold and a part of the bible separated by (getting bound) the Latin abbreviation for that is

4d    Seeing that bank showing honesty (9)
A five-letter word meaning seeing that or inasmuch as followed by a verb meaning to bank or depend

6d    Composer‘s perfect joy (5)
Two definitions – an English composer and perfect joy or ecstasy

7d    Silence is golden when this is paid? (4,5)
A cryptic definition of an amount paid to someone to ensure their silence

14d    Confounded tar we found before swimming pool game (5,4)
An anagram (confounded) of TAR WE followed by a further anagram (swimming) of POOL

15d    Jumbo might leave this cold on track! (8)
C(old) followed by ON and a verb meaning to track or follow

17d    Where return ticket takes one somewhere in Australia (7)
Split as (3,4) this gives the two parts of a return journey

18d    Cathedral with diocese and building in Paris (6)
A cathedral followed by a three-letter word for a diocese

22d    Flung from end to end as reported (5)
Sounds like (as reported) a seven-letter word meaning from end to end

The Crossword Club is now open.  I’ll be out all day meeting up with friends, old and new, at the Old Joint Stock in Birmingham; feel free to drop by if you are in the area, I’ll be there from 12:30 till 19:00.

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The Quick Crossword pun: filly+bust+err=filibuster



  1. Owdoo
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:29 am | Permalink

    This felt like a workmanlike solve. It all slotted in steadily but I was just not quite on the right wavelength today I guess. Probably something to do with a rather late night last night and an early start today!
    Thanks setter and BD.

  2. Angel
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:49 am | Permalink

    Done and dusted without too much aggro and plenty of fun to be had along the way. Thanks Mr. Ron and BD although I have to admit to a little “cheating” before you came on line! Several clues appealed including 13a, 16a, 5d, 13d and 15d (new word for me). **/***.

  3. dutch
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    Top half went in faster because I made a mess of the two piano clue which had me stumped with the crossers for ages – all worked once corrected. Liked 13a, 26a, 17d, 20d

    thanks setter and BD

    • Angel
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:05 am | Permalink

      Were you xxxxxx wrong with 16a ‘cos I nearly was?!

      • crypticsue
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:27 am | Permalink

        I thought the same as you but didn’t write it in. It isn’t quite in alternative clue territory but I think it is tending towards the overhelpful. I’m sure if BD disagrees, he’ll uncensor it.

      • Angel
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:30 am | Permalink

        Oh dear thought BD might allow an attractive synonym. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/icon_redface.gif

        • crypticsue
          Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:42 am | Permalink

          He still might …. but I don’t think you’re helping your cause http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_whistle3.gif

          • Kath
            Posted June 13, 2015 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

            I hope he does – I’m mystified! http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_unsure.gif

            • crypticsue
              Posted June 13, 2015 at 1:57 pm | Permalink

              Thinking about it over home-made pizza for lunch, it is definitely an incorrect answer even if only phrased in the form of a question to Dutch as to whether he’d been wrong at first too.

              • Angel
                Posted June 13, 2015 at 5:09 pm | Permalink

                Sorry to disturb your lunch but am impressed that you go to the trouble of home-making your pizza? Anyway nuff said I bow to your superior wisdom and retire hurt. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-phew.gif

                • crypticsue
                  Posted June 13, 2015 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

                  Mr CS is vegetarian and I do like my meat too – so the easiest way is to do our own. They taste much nicer too.

  4. Nev
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:55 am | Permalink

    An enjoyable work through today with just the NE corner holding me up. 1A last in with help from the clue. Thanks to BD and the setter, 2*/3* for me today

  5. JonP
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:02 am | Permalink

    Fairly benign puzzle today that was enjoyable enough to solve. Thanks to BD and setter **/***

  6. Collywobbles
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:10 am | Permalink

    I think that 1a is a bit questionable

    • Collywobbles
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:38 am | Permalink

      Otherwise, fairly easy with one or two tricky ones. Many thanks to Misteron and to BD whose hints were very useful

  7. Rabbit Dave
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:17 am | Permalink

    2.5*/2*. A bit of a curate’s egg of a puzzle for me today with not much pizzazz and a couple of obscurities thrown in. Finishing off the NE corner took me the longest time.

    BD, “honesty” is a noun and so doesn’t seem right to me as the definition for 4d. Even though I’m not 100% convinced, isn’t “showing honesty” a better fit?

    Many thanks to Mr. Ron and to BD.

    • Kath
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:59 am | Permalink

      I agree with you about 4d.

    • Kitty
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

      Yes RD, I’m with you and Kath. Showing honesty.

    • Liz
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:50 pm | Permalink

      I agree with you RD. I always understood that the definition and the answer needed to correspond as far as the part of speech is concerned ie adverb/ adverb, adjective/ adjective, noun / noun and so on. This doesn’t and gave me quite a bit of trouble….last one in in fact. Otherwise all OK.

    • Posted June 14, 2015 at 7:47 am | Permalink

      Now changed, thanks.

  8. Sweet William
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:44 am | Permalink

    Thank you setter for an enjoyable Saturday puzzle. I thought it was going to be fairly straight forward to begin with, but suddenly hit a few problems. Last in was 4d which seemed more difficult than it should have been. Thanks BD for the hints.

  9. Kath
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    My only complaint is that it hasn’t taken very long and it’s raining so no gardening today.
    I thought there were some good clues and enjoyed this one.
    I’ve never heard of the 1a language – my last answer – should have got it more quickly than I did.
    10a took a while – spent too long trying to use the regular letters of ‘travel’.
    I liked 16 and 26a and 17d. My favourite was either 13d or 13a.
    With thanks to Mr Ron and to BD.

    • overtaxed
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

      I’m with you on the travel theme. Held me up for some time.

  10. Young Salopian
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    The NW corner had me thinking for a while but otherwise an enjoyable and relatively untroubling Saturday puzzle. As usual, if stuck, the clue construction and wordplay can be trusted. *\*** I thought. Like Kath, still chucking it down in the Marches so garden not an option. Dinner party tonight so hope for a gentle puzzle tomorrow.

  11. Heno
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 12:32 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to Mr Ron and to Big Dave for the hints. A nice puzzle, with a few difficult clues. I thought 4d was questionable, and had never heard of 1a, but got it from the wordplay. Favourite was 16a. Was 1*/3* for me. Off to try and connect my wireless printer to the new Hub, oh joy http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_negative.gif

  12. Kitty
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 1:00 pm | Permalink

    I probably got close to a personal record today … but not for the crossword: for sleep. 6d!

    Crossword-wise, my brain was sluggish in shuffling into the land of the living, so this was a rather slow solve. But what a lovely way to wake up and feel human again.

    There were one or two chestnuts (like 19a) and some workaday clues, but there was also much that was very good indeed. 13d made me smile and 16a sent me in a couple of alternative directions before inspiration finally came, so is my favourite.

    Thanks to the setter. Thanks also to BD, and (with reference to Kath’s comment #28 yesterday) – a flower for the lovely Mrs BD http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_rose.gif.

  13. Paso Doble
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    it took us quite a while to kick start this one, but managed to finish it with a houseful of guests chattering away. **/***
    Thanks to Big Dave and Mr Ron.

  14. Paso Doble
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 2:00 pm | Permalink

    Footnote to some of yesterday’s comments – it was nice to see that Miffypops, Kath and others were thanking BIg Dave for the blog and all the help that this has provided. i don’t think we would have become relatively proficient without it, or indeed, so interested. The wonderful thing about the blog is seeing what everybody else has to say about it and what they think about it. We might even be included in the ‘people who were struggling with the back pager a few months ago and are now regularly commenting on the Toughie’ (Miffypops).
    So, a big thank you to Mr & Mrs Big Dave…..

    And also a big thank you to Sir Van Morrison who deserves his knighthood for all the brilliant music he has produced over so many decades.

    Here is a beautiful but slightly ‘bizarre’ song that he recorded with one of his compatriots….Mr Paul Durcan.

    • Brian
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

      Obviously one gets a Knighthood for being difficult. There is an old saying in the music industry, never work with kids or Van Morrison.

    • Miffypops
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:36 pm | Permalink

      We had an old cabinet style valve radio. I remember trying to tune into Radio Luxemberg and AFN. Almost the only place I could get the music I wanted on a regular basis. The goldfish that were let go in our village pond have grown. So have the Koi carp. Who was Justin?

      • Paso Doble
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:01 pm | Permalink

        I don’t think Justin existed as a person. I think it could be a cryptic definition as in: Just in. The latest record to be played on those radio stations.

        • Paso Doble
          Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:52 pm | Permalink

          As a photographer i also had the pleasure to photograph Van The Man and Lester Piggot many moons ago. Not on the same day….

  15. Little Dave
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 2:17 pm | Permalink

    Pleasant fare and done angst-free. Particularly liked 5d. Many thanks to BD. and the rain has stopped……..!http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/icon_mrgreen.gif

  16. Sarah
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable today some r and w and some needing more thought. I was lucky that 16a was one of my first answers in which helped with 15d. Am feeling a bit 25 a but have a birthday party to organise this afternoon so a 13d xxxxxx of any relaxation (oops I hope this doesn’t break any rules…I don’t think it does…). many thanks to BD and the setter

    • crypticsue
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

      Sorry but you put in a partial answer so…..

  17. Merusa
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 3:02 pm | Permalink

    It all went in quite well except for 1a, I needed the hint for that one.
    Fave was 13a with runner up of 16a.
    Thanks to the setter and to BD for the much-needed hint at 1a.

  18. Expat Chris
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

    Needed the hint for 1A, but otherwise a quick solve today. 5D is my favorite, with 16A close behind.

  19. Werm
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Maybe not the most difficult but that’s the most fun crossword I’ve done in a long time. Maybe cos the sun is shining but I loved it. Thank you.

  20. Tstrummer
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    Completed while watching various air displays out my window at the Biggin Hill air show. Not too taxing and one or two that I really liked (16a, 13a, 26a, 5d). BLIMEY, there go the Red Arrows (or similar)! Red, white and blue 15downs! Thanks to setter and, as ever, to BD. 1*/3*

    • JonP
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

      I saw the red arrows fly over a few times here – I deduce that you must live near me (may change my name to Holmes).

      • Tstrummer
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:22 pm | Permalink

        I live high up enough to command a panoramic view of that part of southeast London that is usually on fire and echoes to the constant sound of emergency service sirens

    • Tstrummer
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:19 pm | Permalink

      Yup. The Red Arrows all right. They flew in tight formation so close to my window that I could make out a couple of pilots. Crickey, but they are good. An unexpected treat on an otherwise quiet Saturday. There will also be a Battle of Britain 75th anniversary display (Biggin Hill was a key airfield), so planned housework put on hold as I await Spitfires, Hurricanes and the last surviving Lancaster.

  21. Brian
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 3:58 pm | Permalink

    Found this to be one of the more difficult Saturday’s that was a real tedious slog. Never heard of 1a before (thx Google) and must admit I struggled even with the hints.
    Almost done but stuck on the last two 19a and 20d! Any help within the rules would be most appreciated.

    • Wayne
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:11 pm | Permalink

      Re: 20d. Answer in the clue.

    • Tstrummer
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

      Re 19a, xxxxxxx [BD always says, if you start with ‘think of’ you’re definitely giving an alternative clue = CS]

      My advice to Brian would be to read the clue ‘literally’ – CS

  22. jean-luc cheval
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 4:10 pm | Permalink

    Did that one coming back from work. 1am my time and it was over quite quickly as it was still dark when I finished.
    Looks to me like the work of RayT. But there again I could be wrong.
    Loved 9a and 21a and a lot of others.
    Thanks to BD for the blog and I am off to print the NTSPP.

  23. Hilary
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 5:16 pm | Permalink

    Exhibition catalogue arrived, looking good but so it should be considering the amount of preparation I put into it. Broke off to do crossword and thoroughly enjoyed it, spelt 1a wrong so 4d eluded me for a while. 9a made me smile because that was my alibi at work when things went awry but real favourite had to be 16a just because it made me smile. Thanks to BD and setter.

  24. Caravaggio
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Having just transmitted my pdf of the crossword to the Telegraph, I’ve realised that I haven’t made any contribution today… I’m late on parade, unlike the Welsh Guards this morning, and I completed the puzzle while watching the Trooping of the Colour. No problems experienced and I particularly liked 16a which made me smile – probably because I saw the answer straightaway.

  25. Badger
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 5:51 pm | Permalink

    Mine was the SW corner…never heard of 15d until I checked in the Dic-US origin.
    Thanks BD! 16a reminded me of axxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx….otherwise it was enjoyable once I got into it. Luckily it was a grim damp day outside…
    Tx to setter

    • crypticsue
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:17 pm | Permalink

      Honestly. You pop downstairs (the computer lives upstairs) for a bacon sandwich and look what happens while you’re away, people start alternative clue hinting…..

  26. KathH
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:19 pm | Permalink

    HELP HELP HELP. Hints please for 16a

    • crypticsue
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

      The easiest way I can think to help (without getting into trouble with myself for giving too much information) is to suggest that you look up definitions of piano in the dictionary until you come to the one for it as an adverb. Then read the clue again and see if the penny drops.

      • Angel
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:38 pm | Permalink

        Perhaps I will resist the the temptation to join in this discussion! http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/icon_rolleyes.gif

      • Miffypops
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:44 pm | Permalink

        xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Well I just had to, didn’t I? cs]

        • Kath
          Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:53 pm | Permalink

          Oh dear – you’re going to be in such trouble – naughty corner for you, and I’m not even sure you’ll be out in time to do the Monday hints! http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_unsure.gif

          • Paso Doble
            Posted June 13, 2015 at 7:50 pm | Permalink

            Look up piano in Italian

            • Kath
              Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:33 pm | Permalink

              Oh dear – are we going to be in trouble with 2Kaths?! I did get 16a without any of the complications that others seem to have had.

          • Miffypops
            Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:27 pm | Permalink

            Those themed hints Kath. If I can manage it.

        • Miffypops
          Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:25 pm | Permalink

          Guilty as charged Ma’am.

      • KathH
        Posted June 13, 2015 at 8:21 pm | Permalink

        Thank you all. My puzzle is now complete…..

    • Kath
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:57 pm | Permalink

      Hello and welcome from one Kath to another. http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_smile.gif There aren’t many of us around!

  27. vancouverbc
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:34 pm | Permalink

    ***/**. This was a real challenge on first read through but some perseverance and it gradually all fell into place. I liked 16a and 17d in particular. Thanks to the setter and BD for the review. Just walked the dogs before the temperatures sky rocket again. Our Serpentine nature reserve is rapidly drying up. We need rain – how strange does that sound!

    • Kath
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 6:55 pm | Permalink

      It doesn’t sound strange at all. I’ve been saying for ages that we need some rain – the trouble is that I’m never happy – it’s rained almost all day here and all I’ve done is complain about it.

  28. Ora Meringue
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 8:29 pm | Permalink

    Just not on the right wavelength with this one today. Needed the hints for one or two as well as some electronic help.
    Started off enjoying it then ground to a halt.
    15d was a new word for me.
    Knew 1a but totally misread the clue.
    Ah well, I’ll keep on trying.

    Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave.

  29. Salty Dog
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 9:12 pm | Permalink

    A nice puzzle: 2*/4* or so, l thought. Some very simple clues, and some requiring rather more thought. I had four contenders – 13a, 26a, 15d and 17d – out of which l just prefer 15d. My thanks to the setter, and to BD.

  30. Kath
    Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:42 pm | Permalink

    That was all good fun – thanks to everyone. Off to bed really soon having had the worst sleep EVER last night – don’t know why – just did. Normally I sleep like the proverbial brick but, http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-yawn.gif . Anyway I’ve got a really good book on the go . . .
    Night night all

    • Kath
      Posted June 13, 2015 at 10:47 pm | Permalink

      Having just said what I did I’m now wondering why bricks are supposed to sleep so well . . . http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/wpml_unsure.gif anyone? I really am off now http://bigdave44.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-monalisa/icons/smiley-yawn.gif

      • crypticsue
        Posted June 14, 2015 at 8:50 am | Permalink

        Never heard of sleeping like a brick – do you mean log or top??

  31. Una
    Posted June 14, 2015 at 12:18 am | Permalink

    No particular favourites ,well maybe 16a and 12a. Anyway very enjoyable ,I had the same problems as others with 10a and the travel.
    Thanks for Van the Man, although Astral Weeks is still my favourite.
    Thanks to the setter and BD.

  32. Faraday
    Posted June 14, 2015 at 7:22 am | Permalink

    An enjoyable puzzle. 4d also troubled me grammatically and 13a made me smile but best of all the crossword was in its “correct” place on the back page of the DT. With OAP’dom only ten days away I guess the grumpy old man syndrome is slowly creeping up on me…..

  33. almo
    Posted June 14, 2015 at 7:56 am | Permalink

    22d – can anyone give a further hint ? I have letters one, three and five, but the obvious answer gives one “flung” in the wrong tense, surely . Alternatively, I have missed the point completely !! Apart from this, I thought it was a good challenging puzzle.

    • Posted June 14, 2015 at 8:09 am | Permalink

      It’s difficult to say much more. Is your “obvious answer” in the present tense? If so remember that flung is past tense.

      • almo
        Posted June 15, 2015 at 11:39 am | Permalink

        oh dear – another senior moment !! Molto ta, BD.

  34. weekendwanda
    Posted June 14, 2015 at 8:39 am | Permalink

    Just enjoyed reading the hints and comments. Did not need the hints but struggle for me was the SW corner. Unbelievably last one in was 20D. I was making it too complicated and missed the obvious – although not helped by having the last letter of 19a. Got there in the end. Top half with the exception of 10 a was quickly completed.

  35. judetheobscure
    Posted June 15, 2015 at 8:15 am | Permalink

    Finally finished this. NE corner went in without trouble but had sticking points in all others – 1a, 18d/24a and 19a all took a while and I had to resort to the hints for 15d – always known it by another name. Conversely 10a and 16a went in at first read. So 3*/2* for me.
    Thanks to Ron and BD.

  36. Newtothis
    Posted June 17, 2015 at 9:53 am | Permalink

    Can anyone help me with 11a please?

    • Posted June 17, 2015 at 11:27 am | Permalink

      11a Curiosity to make a capital return (8)
      It’s simply a double definition, the second being a return on an investment of capital

  37. Newtothis
    Posted June 18, 2015 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

    Thank you, had the wrong answer for 3d, which was confusing me…all sorted now!