DT 27133 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 27133 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Crossword Club

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As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Don’t forget that you can give your assessment of the puzzle. Five stars if you thought it was great, one if you hated it, four, three or two if it was somewhere in between.

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Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

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1a           Drink that lacks body (6)
An alcoholic drink that can also be a disembodied soul

9a           Jack’s answer: ‘Pardon?’ (10)
A two-letter abbreviation for a jack or sailor followed by the S from ‘S and an answer

10a         Epidemic requires change, taking steps (10)
Some small change or coins around some steps often found on a footpath

14a         Telegraph covering left-winger with sex appeal — it’s to be admired (10)
A telegraph message around a three-letter word for a left wing politician and the two-letter word for sex appeal

18a         Ducking duel arranged in middle of night (7)
An anagram (arranged) of DUEL followed by IN and the middle letter of niGht

21a         General‘s weapon left out (4)
This adjective meaning general is derived by dropping (out) the L(eft) from a weapon with a long barrel

25a         Delegate makes entrance with hunk (10)
A charade of an entrance or opening and a hunk or fragment

26a         Showy beasts, odd characters misplaced in dull surroundings (6)
Drop the odd letters (odd characters misplaced) from bEaStS and insert the result inside an adjective meaning dull or uninteresting


2d           Not very exciting and lacking drive apparently (10)
Someone who is on foot rather than driving a vehicle

6d           What water may be below zero, and may do above, it’s said (4)
This frozen water sounds like what running water may do

7d           It is inclined to raise one’s standing (10)
A cryptic definition of an item used to reach something too high to reach

13d         Attackers like to travel by sea — soldiers may go under (10)
A word meaning like followed by a verb meaning to travel by sea and some soldier insects

16d         Armies come down on railroads (10)
A verb meaning to come down to earth followed by a verb meaning railroads or compels

20d         Get up late! (6)
A cryptic definition of digging up a deceased (late) person

24d         Book sent for my attention (4)
Split as (2,2) this could mean sent for my attention

The Crossword Club is now open. Feel free to leave comments.

Please don’t put whole or partial answers or alternative clues in your comment, else they may be censored!

The Quick crossword pun: (reef} + {fuel} + {ling} = {refuelling}


  1. Collywobbles
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 10:53 am | Permalink

    What a fine crossword. I particularly liked 9a and 20a. Well done to the setter

    • mary
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:53 am | Permalink

      Well done today collywobs

  2. Rabbit Dave
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 10:58 am | Permalink

    Many thanks to the setter for a very enjoyable puzzle today, which I rate **/****. It cheered me up despite waking to find another fall of snow overnight in London :-( . Some lovely clues. I particularly liked 9a, 2d & 6d but my favourite was 20d. Thanks too to BD for his usual excellent weekend hints.

    Not sure that “misplaced” is strictly correct in 26a wouldn’t “removed” be better? Two of the checking letters for 1a made me obsessed that the answer must be claret – probably because I like it so much – even though I couldn’t see the “lacks body” connection. The penny finally dropped when I got 2d. I probably shouldn’t be thinking about claret in the morning, but I blame the snow.

    At least our cricketers turned up on the second day of the final Test in NZ.

  3. Outnumbered
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:22 am | Permalink

    20d was fun. ***/*** for me, last solved was 25a that took ages. I had the last, err, part of the charade but could not get the first bit.

  4. Addicted
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:30 am | Permalink

    Hard work but done without hints (though quite a bit of electronic help!) Except for 12a, at which I am still staring blankly, so a hint would be appreciated so I can get on with the rest of my life on this particularly foul morning. Thanks to setter for a worthy diversion!

    • gnomethang
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

      12a Mount comeback for four members of Italian team (4)

      The first word is the definition for this old chestnut of an answer. ‘Comeback for four members’ indicates a hidden reversed word in the remainder of the clue.

    • Rabbit Dave
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

      Hi Addicted. The answer (= mount) is hidden in reverse (comeback) in the clue

      • Addicted
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 4:42 pm | Permalink

        Thanks both – just how thick can one be??!! I think I’ll blame the weather.

  5. Amanda
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    At first pass I only put in 3 answers! Obviously drank too much wine last night. So I did something else for a bit and when I came back to it everything sort of fell into place. Most enjoyable.

    BD, regarding your hint for 9a, I don’t think the ‘s’ from the clue is used, unless your word for answer begins with ‘o’! Also, shouldn’t 16d be listed as (4,6)?

    Thanks to setter and BD, though I managed without your hints for once.

    • Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

      Thanks for that – I think I was on Autopilot!

      As far as 16d is concerned, the answer is “not according to Chambers”. Almost invariably Telegraph puzzles use the enumeration from Chambers.

      • Amanda
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:44 am | Permalink

        Oh yes, I should have checked :)

  6. Brian
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    Wow, that was hard! Needed BDs excellent clues more than once today so Thx for that.
    Best clue for me was 20d but worst clue def 25a and I think life is just too short for clues like 26a!
    Feel pleased to have finished and at least it gave Mrs B and I something to do whilst the snow continues to fall. Please Lord, give us Spring soon, this weather is playing the very devil with my golf handicap!

  7. Sweet William
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:45 am | Permalink

    All too much for me ! Used some hints at the half way stage – thank you BD, which enabled me to finish. Think I might have finished eventually, but other things to do ! Thank you setter for a fair but, for me, rather challenging puzzle. Good fun though.

  8. mary
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:50 am | Permalink

    Morning Dave and everyone, I found this tough once again today, needing some of your hints Dave, thanks, two favourite clues 20d and 24d, as for the rest I found this a puzzle with a lot of misdirection, and if there is misdirecting being done then I always fall for it! This week I feel as though my solving skills, such as they are, are going backwards rapidly! At least a three star for me today, dry and fine here but no sun as yet, I hope everyone is safe from the rain, floods and snow

  9. Rosie G
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:53 am | Permalink

    Snowbound today so crossword takes precedence. really enjoyed it but was glad Addicted asked the question on 12a as I was still looking at it too. Really liked 6d, 8d and 20d. Agree with the ratings and thanks to setter and BD.

    • gazza
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

      Your comments are going into moderation because you’re leaving out the full-stop between your first and second names in your email address.

      • Rosie G
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:25 pm | Permalink

        Gazza, there is no full stop between the two names! I think the problem is with the avatar that worked with my previous email address but does not with the new one even tho I have changed it . Not sure how to resolve that except to give up my flowery avatar!

        • gazza
          Posted March 23, 2013 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

          I’ve approved this one as it stands so future comments with this email address should be ok.

          • Rosie G
            Posted March 23, 2013 at 6:00 pm | Permalink

            thank you.

  10. Sarah F
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    Lovely puzzle but wasn’t thinking at first so needed some hints to get me into it! Liked 17a, 10a. 20a, and 20d.

    Not getting 4d, 23a, 25a, and 15d. Anyone help? (probably quite simple!)

    Thanks to setter & for hints.

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

      Part simple and part more complicated!

      4d is a cryptic definition of something you lay out for dinner
      23a is ‘printed matter’ and is anagrams (organisation) (after a fashion) of two of the words in the clue
      25a is a charade of a word meaning entrance (way in to something) and hunk (a part rather than a heartthrob!)
      15d is an anagram of ‘drill master’ once you have removed the abbreviation for miles.

      • Sarah F
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

        Thanks! Simple, if I’d thought more about them!

  11. Chris
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:01 pm | Permalink

    Lovely puzzle and more challenging than the usual Saturday offering, I think. I did finish without help, but it took a while for some of the pennies to drop. I liked 10A and 25A in particular but I just loved 20D. That has to be my favorite clue of the year, so far. 16D was the last one in and I, too thought it should be two words. Many thanks to the setter and to BD for once again taking time on a weekend to compile the hints.

    • Amanda
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

      I agree about 20d. I only got it from the checking letters though, which was a shame!

  12. Only fools
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    As others have said seems to be following the recent trend of “improving” the Saturday puzzles .Enjoyed the misdirection .Faves 10a,6d,16d and 19d.
    Thanks very much .

  13. Kath
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:26 pm | Permalink

    I thought this was really good, and really difficult. Finally finished but needed the hint to explain 10a which I totally failed to untangle for myself.
    I’ve never heard of the nuclear process in 20a. 25 and 26a took for ever. So did 20d – my last answer, and favourite clue. I always forget about the kind of ‘soldiers’ in 20d.
    I liked too many of these clues to pick out any particular ones, apart from 20d. Oh and 16d.
    With thanks to Mr Ron and BD.
    Still snowing here – going to have a go at NTSPP later.

    • Kath
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

      PS Thought 6d was good too.

      • Tantalus
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

        It is not a common word. I tried to explain isotopes to Mrs T, she glazed over at Uranium 235…, hit me at uranium 238, went to make tea as I covered types of radiation. During my explaition of fission vs fusion she threatened divorce so I didn’t get to explain the word. Guess that is why it is not well know.

        Sunny and warm in Boston. Thx to setter and all the bd team

        • Kath
          Posted March 23, 2013 at 5:02 pm | Permalink

          This sounds pretty similar to what happens here if husband or elder daughter try to explain something ‘sciency’ to me – hopeless!
          Glad that it’s sunny and warm in Boston but today could be quite a good one to keep quiet on the subject of the weather. :sad:

  14. Caravaggio
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

    I’m late commenting because I’ve been into town to do some shopping but I’ve really enjoyed this puzzle and think that it’s the best we’ve had on a Saturday for a long while. As some of you know, I live in Cheshire and, looking out of the window, there’s now no evidence of snow having fallen but a friend who lives just outside Chester has posted photographs on his Facebook page which show his garden is under six inches of snow…

  15. Little Dave
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

    I really enjoyed this – a good distraction from this dreadful weather which is beginning to drive me nuts. 13d was my favourite. Looking forward to getting away in Easter to warmer climes. Thanks to the setter for a marginally tougher Saturday challenge.

  16. Michael
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

    I found this really hard going today – Saturdays crosswords are normally a lot easier but I couldn’t get any momentum going and had to slog my way through it.

    • gazza
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:02 pm | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog, Michael.

  17. Kingsley
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:14 pm | Permalink

    I think I’ve finished it – without any hints! – but I’m uncertain of the answers I’ve got for 8d and 19d.
    For 8d, I think the answer is a word meaning “storm” [remaining words ‘edited’]
    For 19d, I have the answer as a person who lives off his capital, but I don’t understand the logic.
    (I hope my question doesn’t break any rules and cause me to be reprimanded – or sent to the naughty corner!)

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:24 pm | Permalink

      You are correct for 8d. For 19d you hvae the wrong answer. The definition is ‘one may not believe’. HE from the clue followed by almost all of a capital city.

      • Kingsley
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:42 pm | Permalink

        Thank you, CS. Got it! (The answer describes me perfectly!)

    • Tantalus
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:29 pm | Permalink

      Send him down! (To the naughty corner)

      • crypticsue
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

        All the corners round here are far too cold – what is this ‘sun’ and ‘warm’ you mention?? Grey, damp, sleety, and blooming freezing, that I understand!!

        • Tantalus
          Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

          Boston USA warmer than Boston Lincs, in March! But we’ve had
          6 inches of snow on the ground since thanksgiving.
          (Sad face)

  18. Colmce
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

    I found this puzzle really hard, took a good handful of hints and cogitation to complete.
    Still not sure of some of the wordplay so will have to wait for full review.

    Thanks BD for the hints, and CS for the extras.

    Thanks to the setter.

    Now on to the Radler.

    What a miserable day, all plans on hold, hope there’s something decent on the telly…some hope.

  19. Eileen
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:23 pm | Permalink

    Hi a good crossword and have completed it but please could someone explain 19d I have a word but not sure if it’s right even though all letters fit. Thanks!

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

      I just explained 19 to Kingsley.

  20. Doodah
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Lovely puzzle. Really liked 20d but took me ages to get 8d. Has just stopped snowing here in Kent for which relief much thanks.

  21. The Tantali
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

    Just can’t believe it but Mr T still won’t help me with 26a, the only missing answer in MY puzzle. Can anyone help – have read the hint, mental block (probably caused by the rantings of a lunatic about isotopes). Mrs T

    • crypticsue
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:19 pm | Permalink

      The definition is showy, remove the odd characters of beasts and insert into a three letter word meaning dull, uninteresting.

      Tell Mr T not to be a meanie – it obviously goes with boring husbands who ramble on about isotopes etc until we fall asleep from the tedium of it all – well that’s my experience :)

      • Tantalus
        Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:46 pm | Permalink

        Please can you ask Mr CS to get an account so we can defend our honor (honour). We can’t take this kind of abuse lying down – sorry, MrsT reminded me that I can take it standing up if I wish.

  22. The Tantali
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:35 pm | Permalink

    Good to know I am not the only one. Thx

    • Tantalus
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

      This seems like good timing to let you know there are other Mrs Ts in my life.

  23. Merusa
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

    What a perfect puzzle, just the right mix of difficulty and fun. I got there but not without help from gizmos and google. Needed the hints to know WHY some of my answers were correct, but I often have that problem! Thanks to setter and BD.

  24. ChrisH
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 3:53 pm | Permalink

    I found this difficult, verbose clues, long words and double-unches. Still, got there in the end.

    20D made me smile.

  25. laney
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 4:46 pm | Permalink

    Thank you for a challenging puzzle (for me). I needed help from BD and gleaned some more from the comments. It’s finally complete and I think I ‘ve the correct answer for8d but do not understand the clue at all.Help please. Thanks to all.

    • Kath
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 5:10 pm | Permalink

      The definition in 8d is storm but it’s not anything to do with the weather. You need the ‘in’ from the clue followed by the two letter abbreviation for Virginia followed by two letters for the lowest classes.
      I’m SO glad that other people do the hints, and I bet everyone else is too! It’s only when you try that you realise just how difficult it is.

      • Coconut
        Posted March 25, 2013 at 9:52 am | Permalink

        Thanks Cath. I don’t get around to the prize until late Sunday / Monday so rarely post. Always need the hints and only just got 8d from yours.

        Just 3 left. Cannot get 19d or 25a despite the hints so far!

        Just got 17a whilst typing. I have been trying to misspell another word because I was focused on lass as a young girl!


      • Coconut
        Posted March 25, 2013 at 9:54 am | Permalink

        Apologies -Kath

        • Kath
          Posted March 25, 2013 at 12:10 pm | Permalink

          Not a problem – lots of people, some of whom I’ve known for donkey’s years, STILL spell me with a C!
          19d – the definition is someone who doesn’t believe. You want the ‘he’ from the clue and then five of the six letters that make up a European capital city.
          25a – quite tricky to help here but I’ll have a go. The definition is ‘delegate’ as in someone who is landed with doing the talking. The first five letters is a word for ‘entrance’ (like a river) and the second five letters is a word meaning ‘hunk’ but not the good looking bloke kind.
          Hope that helps.

          • pommers
            Posted March 25, 2013 at 3:28 pm | Permalink

            Kath, you just earned yourself the Thursday blogging slot which I have recently vacated :smile:

  26. Heno
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave for the hints. Very difficult, but enjoyable. Could only solve 14 clues. Got the rest from the blog and hints. Was 4*/2*for me. Wind still howling in Cumbria, managed to do a low level walk.

  27. Hrothgar
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 5:46 pm | Permalink

    Some brilliant wordplay, all eminently doable, I thought.
    Many thanks Mr or Ms setter and BD for the review.

  28. Dawn
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

    Wow, this did not come easy at all so thank you to one and all for the blog contributions and as ever to BD for
    the hints, it has taken several attempts and a lot of persevering but still a sense of achievement now it’s done :-) Thanks too to CS for explanations

  29. Rod Ash
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 9:34 pm | Permalink

    this took me far longer than usual, so I enjoyed this all the more.

  30. una
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

    I needed all the hints and other aids but I’m still stuck on 17a, any assistance appreciated !oops got it now. Thanks to BD and setter.

    • steve_the_beard
      Posted March 24, 2013 at 12:45 am | Permalink

      Charade of [polite way to address a young lady] + [I] + [ON]. Enjoy :-)

  31. una
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 10:00 pm | Permalink

    Why does my screen look like a programme I might have written in the seventies ?

    • steve_the_beard
      Posted March 24, 2013 at 12:46 am | Permalink

      Which browser are you using ???

  32. Derek
    Posted March 23, 2013 at 10:05 pm | Permalink

    An enjoyable Saturday puzzle.

    Faves : 11a, 20a, 25a, 4d, 8d & 16d.

    • una
      Posted March 23, 2013 at 10:23 pm | Permalink

      We didn’t have snow, just a hurricane. How about Holland ?

      • Derek
        Posted March 24, 2013 at 9:39 am | Permalink

        Hi Una!

        No snow here and this morning it is sunny with a light wind.

        • crypticsue
          Posted March 24, 2013 at 9:54 am | Permalink

          In East Kent, we had snow overnight and it looks like it is thinking about starting again. I read in the paper yesterday that on Friday the wind was so strong in Walies, that no-one felt the effects of a small earthquake! Perhaps one day we might see sun too but I am not holding out much hope.

          • una
            Posted March 24, 2013 at 10:34 am | Permalink

            I am not surprised about earthquakes going unnoticed,Friday and Saturday were battles with the elements. Calm but cold today.

          • mary
            Posted March 24, 2013 at 11:54 am | Permalink

            No earthquakes, no snow, no sun, ah well at least it’s dry but very cold

            • mary
              Posted March 24, 2013 at 11:56 am | Permalink

              Anyone know the forecast for Plymouth, other half off on Ferry to visit elderly mother in Brittany tomorrow?

  33. Rince
    Posted March 24, 2013 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

    OK I suppose but more disappointing clues. For example 20d. the clue points to an intransitive verb (e.g. ARISE) whereas the answer is a transitive verb.

    • Kath
      Posted March 24, 2013 at 6:25 pm | Permalink

      My favourite clue but then what I can remember about transitive and intransitive verbs, or even the difference between them, isn’t worth talking about.

  34. markgrantlondon
    Posted March 25, 2013 at 9:29 am | Permalink

    Finally solved this one. Struggled at first then as always, the answers just seem to come thick and fast. Got stick with 16d and Big Dave came to the rescue – thank you – though I agree with another poster that it really is two words, not one. Fun to do all the same! And then why do I struggle with the ‘concise’ crossword? Must be the way my brain’s wired. Does anyone else have the same challenge?

  35. Terry Healy
    Posted March 25, 2013 at 9:44 am | Permalink

    Could I have some help with 8 down please
    Many Thanks

    • Coconut
      Posted March 25, 2013 at 10:07 am | Permalink

      Kath’s post on the previous page got it for me.

      Def: = “To storm” as in Goths and Vandals etc. The answer is made up sequentially in the normal way.


  36. Terry Healy
    Posted March 25, 2013 at 11:33 am | Permalink

    Thank you Coco I missed Kath’s post on the first page,got it now

  37. N. Creme-Egg
    Posted March 27, 2013 at 9:07 am | Permalink

    7d. ‘It is inclined to raise one’s standing’.
    I only had the *th letter, *, but was confident it had to be ‘metatarsus’ so I put it in. Then, of course, I had to discover this blog before I could put things right.
    After that experience, I can’t give this crossword top marks because ‘metatarsus’ is a far superior solution!

    • Posted March 27, 2013 at 9:38 am | Permalink

      Welcome to the blog N. Creme-Egg