DT 26353

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 26353

Hints and tips by Big Dave

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BD Rating – Difficulty ***Enjoyment **

One of our mystery setters has produced a puzzle that gave me little pleasure. There were one or two good clues, but I had seen them before which rather took the edge off.  [Subsequent to writing this, it turns out that Allan Scott, aka Campbell, is the setter.]

Please leave a comment telling us what you thought. You can also add your assessment by selecting from one to five stars at the bottom of the post.

Across

1a    Phone left in recess (6)
{BLOWER} – an old-fashioned slang word for the telephone is built by putting L(eft) inside a shady recess in a garden

5a    Extremely fashionable black suit (2,6)
{IN SPADES} – a phrase that means extremely is a charade of a word meaning fashionable and a black card suit

9a    With bandleader in capital (10)
{WELLINGTON} – combine W(ith) and a famous bandleader to get the capital of New Zealand

10a    Formerly working with church (4)
{ONCE} – a word meaning formerly is a charade of a synonym for working together with the Church of England

11a    Article in French daily exposing drink (8)
{LEMONADE} – put an English indefinite article inside a French daily newspaper to get a soft drink

12a    Mistake made by fielder at Oxford? (4-2)
{SLIP-UP} – this mistake is a charade of a cricket fielder and a word meaning in residence at university

13a    Unsatisfactory, a bygone king (4)
{OFFA} – combine a word meaning unsatisfactory with A to get a bygone king of Mercia

15a    Verse by Forster used in a song and a prayer (3,5)
{AVE MARIA} – put V(erse) and the initials of the author of A Passage to India inside A and an operatic song to get a prayer used in Catholic worship

18a    Musical instrument popular in Bordeaux (8)
{CLARINET} – this musical instrument is derived by putting a word meaning popular inside the another name used for wine from Bordeaux

19a    Before end of encounter, draw level (4)
{TIER} – put a draw, as in a match where no side wins, in front of R (the last letter of encounteR) to get a level or stage
19a    Draw rand out of bank (4) (dead-tree version)
for the newspaper version, draw is as in the CluedUp version and it’s followed by R(and) to get a bank

21a    Terrible rage after child makes accusation (6)
{CHARGE} – an anagram (terrible) of RAGE after CH(ild) makes an accusation

23a    Work out problem (8)
{EXERCISE} – a straightforward double definition

25a    Flaw detected round edge of crown cork (4)
{BUNG} – put a flaw in a computer program around N (edge of crowN) to get a cork or stopper

26a    Pancakes – declines cold ones (4,6)
{DROP SCONES} – these Scotch pancakes came up on Eggheads recently! – a word meaning declines is followed by C(old) and ONES

27a    One may get led astray in just this sort of district! (3-5)
{RED-LIGHT} – a cryptic definition of put an anagram of LED inside a synonym for just to get a district in which ladies of the night operate – this turned out to be a better clue than I had realised; thanks to Allan Scott, the setter, for pointing this out


28a    Dish produced by Greek character on foreign isle (6)
{MUESLI} – this breakfast dish is comprised of a Greek character (for M) followed by an anagram (foreign) of ISLE

Down

2d    European city, for example, featured in story (5)
{LIÈGE} – this Belgian city is created by putting the Latin abbreviation of “for example” inside a story or falsehood

3d    Feel elated having small part broadcast (4,2,3)
{WALK ON AIR} – a phrase meaning to feel elated is a combination of having a small part in a play and to broadcast

4d    Where plane lands makes fugitive lose heart (6)
{RUNWAY} – where an aeroplane lands is a fugitive without the middle A (lose heart)

5d    Originally without appeal, where tour ends? (2,3,4,6)
{IN THE LAST RESORT} – a phrase that originally meant without appeal, but now means as a last expedient, could also mean where a holiday tour ends

6d    Serving up endless wine is ominous (8)
{SINISTER} – reverse an aromatic Greek wine, without its final letter (endless), and IS to get a word meaning ominous

7d    Dressing made from first-rate oil abroad (5)
{AÏOLI} – a garlic-flavoured mayonnaise is a charade of first-rate and an anagram (abroad) of OIL

8d    Private individual (9)
{EXCLUSIVE} – a double definition

14d    Good hand from capacity crowd (4,5)
{FULL HOUSE} – another double definition – a hand at poker consisting of three of a kind and a pair or a capacity theatre crowd

16d    Vegetable all right to be eaten by ambassador on the wagon? (9)
{ARTICHOKE} – a grey-green flower-head, served as a vegetable, comes from the two-letter word meaning all right inside (to be eaten by) the form of address given to an ambassadors after a shortened form of a large wagon – it’s that debatable use of “on” in a down clue again; whatever the crossword editor says, I still don’t like it


17d    Weaker party grounded, unfortunately (8)
{UNDERDOG} – the weaker, or less-fancied, competitor is an anagram (unfortunately) of GROUNDED

20d    Planes (American) abandoned cargo (6)
{JETSAM} – a charade of aeroplanes and AM(erican) leads to cargo jettisoned from a ship and washed up on shore

22d    Splendid beer served up (5)
{REGAL} – a word meaning splendid comes from a wimpish sort of beer reversed (served up)

24d    Give out letters in magic formula (5)
{SPELL} – a double definition

Look out for a new Toughie setter today. It’s about the same difficulty as this one, so why not have a go?

84 Comments

  1. Alikat
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:31 am | Permalink

    My 19a clue read “Draw rand out of bank”. Strange.

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:35 am | Permalink

      The paper clue doesn’t make as much sense as the Clued-Up one used by BD for the hints. Presumably that’s why it was changed??!

    • Prolixic
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:36 am | Permalink

      Presumably this was in the paper version. You sometimes get last minute changes to clues that appear in Clued Up that are not in the paper (or vice versa).

    • Spindrift
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:40 am | Permalink

      As does mine! Bizarre – any explanations forthcoming from you BD?

  2. crypticsue
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:37 am | Permalink

    I found this less difficult than yesterday but not as ‘easy’ as Monday and Tuesday. Agree with recognising some of the clues (how many people will struggle to spell 28a again?), Did like 16d. Thanks to BD and the Mysterious One.

    I too heartily recommend the Toughie, apart from 1a for which the assistance of Gnome’s Law and Prolixic was required before I had a Eureka moment, its great fun and not too tough.

    • Jezza
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:42 am | Permalink

      1a was my last to go in the Toughie. I was along the right lines, but took me a while to find the right word!

    • Nubian
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:48 am | Permalink

      I think 28a in the Toughie edges 28a in the Cryptic for difficulty of spelling.

      • crypticsue
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:50 am | Permalink

        I love those clues where you know the word, have all the letters but can’t necessarily spell the answer!

        • Nubian
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:55 am | Permalink

          Agreed, I was convinced it was rhodo or pholi something and had a running fight with myself to accept what was obviously an anagram. I was trying to get an area of London initially

  3. mary
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Morning Dave, once again no Ooh! Aah! moments, though I did find it quite difficult,I thought 7d was spelt with another L as in alioli? In 26a, I thought it wasn’t ‘the done thing’ to us a complete word from the clue in the answer?? If I have a favourite today it would probably be 3d, personally, I used a lot of bookwork etc. to enable me to finish this and had to read the blog after to get the explainations to quite a few, doable for CC if you feel like perservating!

  4. Jezza
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    In comparison to recent Thursday puzzles, I found this one more enjoyable.
    Intrigued about the new Toughie setter; when I solved it earlier, I did not notice any of the usual setters’ traits.
    Thanks to setter, and to BD.

  5. Nubian
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:40 am | Permalink

    Thursday seems to be computer generated crossword day and as no one as yet has owned up to these puzzles and for several weeks I have stated my belief in such, it only goes to confirm what I think. Again if I am wrong I apologise to the setter but one or two clues are a bit unhelpful. e.g. 15a and 27a. These do not give you an ability to work out the answer. You either know it or you don’t.
    5d I always thought started with ‘as’ and not ‘in’
    No real Favs
    Thanks for the Blog B Dave and ‘The Mysteron’

    • mary
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:43 am | Permalink

      Hi Nubian agree with you there and 5d I always thought was ‘As a last resort’

      • Nubian
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:52 am | Permalink

        Hi Mary, I put it down to a computer glitch

  6. Prolixic
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:43 am | Permalink

    Mnay thanks to the Mysteron for today’s puzzle. I thought that this was fairly gentle – a lot easier than yesterday’s crossword. Favourite clue was 18a. Thanks too to BD for the review.

    I can thoroughly recommend the Toughie – we have a new Toughie setter today with an excellent debut puzzle with lots to tease and amuse. Hopefully he or she will drop by to say hello.

  7. gnomethang
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:52 am | Permalink

    Solid and reasonably enjoyable but as others have noted nothing inspiring. 6d and 18a near the top for me.

    Ditto the Toughie – solved in about the same time as this one but very enjoyable.

    Thanks to BD and our mystery setter.

  8. Geoff
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:54 am | Permalink

    I got bored with this, alas, and gave up with six incomplete when 22d, which imho is not a beer, dawned on me.

    • Nubian
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:57 am | Permalink

      Another computer glitch, it doesn’t know the difference between beer and lager, Or the setter is European

      • Geoff
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 1:24 pm | Permalink

        Last time I was in the NE, I discovered Timothy Taylor’s rather fine Landlord. Have found it in Oxford since as a guest beer.

    • mary
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

      Hi Geoff I’m sure you would have finished if you perservated! but this was a puzzle where I wasn’t sure whether (talking about weather! have all you lucky people still got sunshine??) to ‘keep at it’ either :)

      • crypticsue
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

        We were promised rain this morning but it didn’t appear. Quite cloudy and the promise of rain later, probably when my friend and I are past the point of no return on our walk.

        • mary
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

          we got it for you Sue, it’s quite sunny now but some ominously balck clouds about!

      • Geoff
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 1:21 pm | Permalink

        Beautiful yesterday; heavy rain woke me in the small hours, lashed down earlier this morning, plus a little sunshine. I can nearly see the grass growing …

    • mary
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

      Chambers does give it as beer! in the big red book and the crossword dictionary

      • Geoff
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 1:37 pm | Permalink

        Will I get banned if I suggest the Big Red Book is, how shall I put it, misguided ?

  9. Mr Tub
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:56 am | Permalink

    I’m sure I remember 28a from not too long ago…

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:58 am | Permalink

      28a was the one recently that caused many people to question their spelling, check shopping lists and breakfast packets. Hopefully the correct spelling stuck in their minds ready for today..

      • Kath
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:11 pm | Permalink

        Unfortunately the correct spelling didn’t stick in my mind but I did at least know that I couldn’t spell it so looked it up. I blame my husband who always spells it museli on shopping lists so I get very used to seeing it like that!!

  10. Allan Scott
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:58 am | Permalink

    27a RED-LIGHT – anagram of led inside right (just)

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

      That’s how I read the clue too.

    • mary
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:06 pm | Permalink

      Ah, didn’t see that

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:07 pm | Permalink

      Thanks Allan. Presumably you are claiming ownership of this one!

      Once you are convinced that a clue is a cryptic definition, you do stop looking for further wordplay.

    • Nubian
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

      I’ll give you that one Allan, well spotted

      • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:19 pm | Permalink

        Allan is today’s setter, Nubian!

        • mary
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

          Oh didn’t see that either, thanks Allan

        • Nubian
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

          Well thanks Allan for a fine puzzle although I still don’t accept lager as beer

          • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

            Nubian

            I think you and I will have to concede that bitter and lager are both beers – one for men and the other for wimps!

            • Nubian
              Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:35 pm | Permalink

              Sadly Dave, I think your right.

            • Collywobbles
              Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

              or women

        • crypticsue
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:27 pm | Permalink

          So I was the only one so far who ‘got’ his clue?

          • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:29 pm | Permalink

            Gazza wrote to me about it, but because we have visitors today it was a long time before I saw his email.

          • mary
            Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

            well ‘got’ Sue :)

          • gnomethang
            Posted September 23, 2010 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

            I’ll put my and up to that too!
            Thanks to Mr Scott as well!

  11. Pete
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:03 pm | Permalink

    Would only give this 2* for difficulty. I found it much easier than yesterdays offering. Once again I agree with the comments made by Nubian relating to the ability to work out the answer.
    I also have the paper version and therefore the different clue to 19a.
    Thanks to Big Dave for the hints.

    • Nubian
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:22 pm | Permalink

      Pete, I’ve had a good look at the blog and it is obvious I don’t know what I am talking about. Those clues are very well hidden. Praise to the Mysteron

  12. Collywobbles
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

    I thought that Thursdays’ cryptic was supposed to be difficult. I found this easier than most but most enjoyable all the same

  13. Nubian
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:28 pm | Permalink

    Big Dave, Do you want to change your opening sentence to Allan Scott in stead of mystery setter ?

  14. Collywobbles
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:38 pm | Permalink

    BD,
    I got 16d but I don’t really understand it. Could you go into more detail?

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

      It’s OK (all right) inside HE (His Excellency) after ARTIC (wagon)

      • Collywobbles
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

        Tks BD. I agree that the word ‘on’ is off putting and probably prevented me from seeing the raison d’etre

        • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:55 pm | Permalink

          During a previous discussion the Telegraph’s Puzzles editor contributed this:

          “I raised this question of “on” with Rufus a while ago, and was happy with his explanation of “on” meaning “in addition to” (as in Chambers). It may not be the convention for Down clues, and of course in one way it appears to go against logic, but you can justify it — just!”

          They may be happy, I’m not!

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:41 pm | Permalink

      There was a stray word (now deleted) in the hint – left over from a cut-and-paste!

  15. crypticsue
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:40 pm | Permalink

    If anyone has the paper and is a fan of John Wayne, on page 27, there is a themed crossword competition (you can win £1,000 but I bet your chances are about as good as getting a pen on Saturday!)

  16. Nubian
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:48 pm | Permalink

    The Toughie is a deusy

    • Nubian
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:49 pm | Permalink

      I mean Duesy

      • Kath
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:13 pm | Permalink

        What is a Duesy?

  17. Dee Harrison
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 12:56 pm | Permalink

    I enjoyed this! Had to reverse engineer the clue from other letters for 16d wasn’t familiar with HE abbreviation but am now!
    Thanks to the setter and to BD for the additional clues. Can’t tell you how thrilling it is to be learning and completing these puzzles on a regular basis now….perhaps I’m not as ‘past it’ as I had feared! Thanks to all.

  18. BigBoab
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    I quite enjoyed this puzzle today, liked 15a and 27a particularly, thanks to Campbell and to BD for the usual great review.

  19. Kath
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 1:28 pm | Permalink

    After several interruptions (walk dog, ironing, make bread and had a visitor) have now finished. I found this easier than yesterday’s crossword but couldn’t make any sense of 25a, even though the answer was obvious, until I read the hint. Agree with 3* for difficulty and also agree with some of the comments about 5d – have always heard it beginning ‘as a’. I enjoyed doing this, even allowing for another sporting reference (12a) – rugby and bridge in the same clue yesterday and cricket today – wonder what it’ll be tomorrow – something else of which I have no knowledge at all!! Weather not nice today so might even have a look at the toughie. Thanks to the setter and BD for the hints.

    • Geoff
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

      You make bread ?? Well done! Tried and failed, several times, sadly. Do you give lessons, perchance?

      • Kath
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:20 pm | Permalink

        Wonder why you’ve failed – we don’t ever buy it as I make it in quite big batches and then freeze it. I’m absolutely delighted that my elder daughter has just started to make it too – was worried that it might die out in our family. Could tell you what to do but am a little worried that other ‘crossworders’ might find it a bit boring and I would hate to be excommunicated from reading the blog or commenting!!

        • Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:22 pm | Permalink

          Post away Kath!

          Only bad language or libel is banned here!

          • Kath
            Posted September 23, 2010 at 11:52 pm | Permalink

            Thank you. Maybe more on this subject tomorrow – my afternoon, and rest of day, was hijacked by my 88 year old mother falling over and now in hospital with fractured femur. Just home, totally knackered ….. Would be very happy to give bread making lessons! It’s really not difficult – just takes perseverance!

            • mary
              Posted September 24, 2010 at 9:54 am | Permalink

              just have to perservate then?? Hope your mother does ok Kath

        • Prolixic
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

          The only risk in crosswordland of discussing ways to make bread is the risk of a visit from the police for the offence of counterfeiting.

        • Geoff
          Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:31 pm | Permalink

          I possibly don’t knead it enough, there’s been a stodgy layer of dough near the bottom of the loaf.

          • Jezza
            Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:42 pm | Permalink

            … I too suffer with a stodgy layer at the bottom of my loaf. I put it down to years of alcohol abuse! :)

          • mary
            Posted September 23, 2010 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

            I failed my ‘O’ level cookery exam, because my bread was not cooked in the middle, on the outside it looked great, why did that examiner have to cut it!!!!!

  20. ChrisH
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Rather routine, I thought. Puzzled by 19a. Why two sets of clues?

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 23, 2010 at 2:49 pm | Permalink

      It happens more often than you would think. My view on this one, particularly as the Clued-Up one is easier to follow, is that the setter/editor changed their minds about it after the type had been set for the paper version and so changed the on-line version.

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:25 pm | Permalink

      Commonly known as a ScrewUp!

      • Digby
        Posted September 23, 2010 at 4:23 pm | Permalink

        Or “Haven’t got a Clue”

  21. Derek
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:03 pm | Permalink

    An unusually early input from me – the DT arrived early!
    I solved this one in record time and don’t agree with BD that it was poor!
    A very mixed bag of clues from a geographical standpoint. B, CH, F, GR, NZ and Bonnie Scotland.
    Best for me 6d & 14d.

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:14 pm | Permalink

      I didn’t say they were poor, merely that they gave me a sense of déjà vu. If you haven’t seen, for example, the lemonade clue before I’m sure you’d say it was good.

  22. Jerseyman
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:12 pm | Permalink

    Yes, quite an easy one today by Allan Scott, although I got the answers to a few before I understood how they were consructed. I had ‘Ave Maria’ in 15a but didn’t realise how till Big Dave pointed out it was Forster’s initials that made it work. Likewise 16d, ‘artichoke’ was solved but it took Dave’s explanation to see how I
    got there. I still do not like the messy anagram of OK, Cart and HE and where does the I come from?

    After a lovely, warm few days here in Jersey when I could do my Codewords, Quickie and Cryptic sitting in the sun outside, we were back to the rain and cloud this morning,

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 3:15 pm | Permalink

      It’s not an anagram! Artic is short for articulated lorry.

  23. Franco
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

    A new experience for me today. I tackled today’s cryptic while attending about 2 hours of optometric eye tests – lots of waiting time. The last clues in were a bit of a blur! I ended up with extremly dilated pupils – but alas, this was caused by the eye drops that I was given – rather than finding this puzzle particularly attractive. Think I solved it – but will have a closer look tomorrow.

  24. Little Dave
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 7:16 pm | Permalink

    Found this tough and never got going. Not tuned in. Tomorrow will be better.

  25. Peter
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 7:51 pm | Permalink

    I did all but two on the train. Needed help with 8d

    I agree that lager is not beer.

    The one I could not do was 19a Draw rand out of bank (4) (dead-tree version) and I still don’t understand it.

    As it was changed, presumably someone spotted what a poor clue it is. When something like that prevents completion it is disappointing. 1* today.

    • Posted September 23, 2010 at 8:13 pm | Permalink

      TIE (draw) + R(and) = TIER (bank)

  26. paolors
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 8:52 pm | Permalink

    Liked the puzzle, liked the blog, comments were v good. And I ‘got’ 27a I must be getting better. Sleep well all.

  27. Beangrinder
    Posted September 23, 2010 at 9:06 pm | Permalink

    Couldn’t finish 20d since I had piella for 28a. I hate it when you have a watertight answer and it turns out to be wrong…pi & ella meets the Greek and the isle. Thanks to the blog for revealing all again.

    • Franco
      Posted September 24, 2010 at 11:47 am | Permalink

      I’ve tried “Paella” but never “Piella” – but I’m sure it must be preferable to “Muesli”.