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DT 28760

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28760

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BD Rating – Difficulty *** Enjoyment ****

Kia ora from Aotearoa.

No it is not Wednesday again. Just our turn to fill in for Deep Threat and write the blog for a Giovanni puzzle.
We think it is the first time we have done this. We made sure we had our BRB close to hand but did not have to use it very often today. Precisely written clues as we expect from this setter and a pleasure to work on.

 Please leave a comment telling us how you got on.


7a     Dispute by river somewhere in France (8)
CAMARGUE : This river flows through a university town, and is followed by a verb for dispute or debate.

9a     Excellent band broadcasting (6)
AIRING : The letter and number that denote excellent and a band or circlet.

10a     Sort of test taken by that female who has given birth? (6)
MOTHER : A driving test is followed by a feminine personal pronoun.

11a     A new job (not exciting one) daughter secured (8)
ANCHORED : ‘A’ from the clue, the abbreviation for new, an onerous task, and finally, the abbreviation for daughter.

12a     Tense? Things will never get better! (7,7)
PRESENT PERFECT : To paraphrase the wordplay, ‘now is as good as it could ever be.’

15a     A very old wife making one swear (4)
AVOW : ‘A’ from the clue and abbreviations for the next three words.

17a     Just fine (5)
RIGHT : A double definition. Fine in the sense of OK.

19a     Untruth provided by female willingly (4)
LIEF : An untruth, and then the abbreviation for female.

20a     Lecturer as host, awfully sweet (9,5)
CHARLOTTE RUSSE : An anagram (awfully) of LECTURER AS HOST.

23a     I act with Tory somehow to expose this cruelty (8)
ATROCITY : An anagram (somehow) of I ACT TORY.

25a     African country entertaining graduate in Caribbean territory (6)
TOBAGO : A Bachelor of Arts is inside a West African country on the Gulf of Guinea.

27a     Part of the meal lacking refinement reportedly (6)
COURSE : A homophone of a word that means uncouth or lacking refinement.

28a      Tot restricted by grown-ups, little boy exasperated (8)
MADDENED : A word for tot or tally is inside adult males and, finally, an abbreviated boy’s name.


1d     PM gets round part of Ireland (4)
MAYO : Your current PM and then the round-shaped letter.

2d     House with crazy exterior is let-down (6)
BATHOS : The abbreviation for house is inside a word for crazy that alludes to flying mammals.

3d      Woman offering half-truth (4)
VERA : The first half of an eight letter word meaning truth.

4d     Performer in political party introduced by the German (6)
DANCER : The South African political party we had in our Wednesday blog is inside one of the German definite articles.

5d     Wild boar (honest!) living among the trees (8)
ARBOREAL : An anagram (wild) of BOAR and then a word for honest or true.

6d     Woman from the past in an Anglican church leading to tension (10)
ANCESTRESS : ‘An’ from the clue, the two letters for the Anglican Church and then a synonym for tension.

8d     Detective writer — one who knows about plots, it’s said? (7)
GARDNER : This name sounds like a person who cultivates plants.

13d     A victor, one involved in act of annulment (10)
REVOCATION : An anagram (involved) of A VICTOR ONE.

14d     Live in squalid conditions as American soldier in hole (3,2)
PIG IT : A hole or mine shaft contains the common appellation for an American soldier.

16d     Arms tired, having carried piano on (8)
WEAPONRY : A synonym for tired includes the music abbreviation for piano (soft) and ‘on’ from the clue.

18d     Disquiet ultimately about a delinquent youth given indulgence (7)
TREATED : The last letter (ultimately) of disquiet, then the two letters signifying about, then ‘A’ from the clue and a delinquent youth from the 1950s.

21d     Characters with questionable identity in Dutch city (6)
LEIDEN : A lurker hiding in the third and fourth words of the clue.

22d     Cheap meat for a ‘hearty’ meal? (6)
UMBLES : This is a ‘hearty’ meal because the heart along with the lungs are its principal constituents.

24d     Vegetables in start of summer month shooting up (4)
YAMS : We need a reversal of the first letter of summer and the month that recently ended.

26d     Energetic person in game, top lady (4)
GOER : The game is an ancient board game originating in the Far East and the top lady is Her Majesty.

Perhaps because we’re feeling in a blissful mood, our favourite today is 12a.

Quickie pun    beast    +    wrong    =    be strong

47 comments on “DT 28760

  1. I completely agree with our bloggers’ suggestion for a favourite clue. 12a stood out for me straight away as a very elegant, concise definition. Overall, this was 2.5* /4* for me, with a fair bit of head-scratching needed to complete it, but the wordplay was sound, so it was very solvable.

    Thanks to The Don and the 2Ks.

  2. 3* / 2*. I found this workmanlike, technically accurate but a bit dull; an improvement on last Friday.
    Thanks to Giovanni and the Friday Kiwis.

  3. I’m afraid I surrendered to this one after **** time.

    I hadn’t heard of either 21d or 22d. 6d Is a word I haven’t come across, but was easy enough to work out, and the same can be said for 20a.

    I suppose we were due a bit of a challenge after some of the easier ones this week.

    Many thanks to Giovanni and the 2Ks.

  4. A cracking puzzle for me today and a ****/****.
    last in was 21d when I remembered the city but failed to parse the cryptic bit when on about the third read I spotted the lurker !.
    Don’t remember seeing 22d before but eventually found it and thought the ‘hearty’ reference was because the word usually refers to deer (hart) innards-just a thought.
    Nearly put harangue in for 7a as it nearly fitted then I had the doh moment. Thanks to 2 K’s for the brilliant pic and setter for all the fun.

  5. Wow! Did it eventually but great fun and sense of achievement. Several chuckles too.
    Thank you 😊

  6. Thank you to Giovanni for the best thing so far in a very trying morning – dying washing machine, work related hell/stress and so on. I’d agree that 12a is my favourite clue, although I hope its wrong about things not getting better

    Thanks to the 2Ks for the illustrated explanations

  7. Hadn’t come across 22d before – think I’d avoid it on a menu!
    The 20a sweet has turned up quite recently so that was easily slotted in.

    Thought ‘with’ in 21d would have been better if replaced with ‘of’ – anyone else?

    No particular favourite but thanks to DG for the puzzle and to our 2Ks for taking on extra duties and bringing us a beautifully illustrated blog.

    1. Agree with you Jane, as I said in my blog, it took me several reads through before I unearthed the lurker !

    2. Jane, I bet you’ve heard of the phrase ‘to eat humble pie’ which is a pun based on 22d.

      1. Hi Gazza,
        Yes, a familiar phrase but I don’t quite get what you’re talking about. I simply thought that ‘of’ made the wordplay more accessible.
        Can you explain further – I’m obviously being dim here!

        1. I was responding to your comment that you hadn’t come across 22d before by saying that there’s a derivation of it in the phrase “eat humble pie”.

  8. Not quite a classic but hugely enjoyable just to confuse matters 20a is also an American clothes retailer. I also agree 12a favourite clue but I also liked 11a.
    Thanks to the 2ks and the Don.

  9. I’ve only done 75% of this one and will have to shoot off now and finish it later. But I have the gist of it, enabling me to comment generally. As usual (mind you, I am biased), I found this G excellent. Very good clues, a stiffish challenge and very enjoyable/entertaining. Favs: 12a and 16d. 20a: Isn’t that two helpings of that pudding we’ve had recently, I’m feeling rather bloated… 3.5* / 4*

  10. A gentle and enjoyable end to the work week completed at a gallop – **/****.

    I’m pretty sure that we saw 20a within the last week or two.

    I wonder if Silvanus’ repetition radar will blip on 1d and 24d.

    Candidates for favourites – 7a, 12a, 25a, 6d, and 25d – and the winner is 7a.

    Thanks to Giovanni and the 2Kiwis.

  11. What a tremendous word 22d is.

    Reminds me of a most stunning part of the South Wales coast.

  12. Despite scribbling the answer to 7a in the margin, I was rather fixated on the answer to 3d being Anna. I was then looking for a word twice that long that meant ‘truth’. Spent far too long on one answer. Still, I really enjoyed this one much more than yesterday. Favourite clue was 22d. It sounded as though it came straight out of a Dickens novel. Many thanks Giovanni and 2Ks .

  13. I enjoyed this challenge. Elegant clues that were a pleasure to solve. 1a was my favourite.
    Thanks to DG, and also to the 2K’s for extra duties done well.

  14. Excellent crossword and most enjoyable, I’d never heard of 22d either. Overcast here in North Wales for the first time in a week so had time to finish painting the render on the house this morning before attacking the crossword.

  15. Most enjoyable. Pleased to get 7a without assistance. Like most solvers have never heard of 22d. Liked 12a, always makes me glad I stuck in at Latin!

  16. First impression was somewhat forbidding but before long it all began to unravel and DG’s offering was, as usual, much enjoyed. SE corner presented the most challenge. Had forgotten 19a term. Top dogs included 10a, 12a and 8d with 12a winning through in the end. Thanks Giovanni and the 2Kiwis.

  17. Yes I found this a bit daunting at first pass but with perseverance bits began to come together. Like others unfamiliar with 22d answer also struggled to understand 2d and needed 2K’s help with last in 7a, wrongly put in harangue for that. Some electronic help also needed today . From my point of view a challenging puzzle but fair, and after last Friday’s puzzle pleased to be able to say that.

    Clues of the day: 12a / 16d

    Rating: 3.5* / 3.5*

    Thanks to the 2Ks and Giovanni

  18. Very tough for me. Was convinced 3D was Ruth, missed Vera.
    Great puzzle though. Thanks all.

  19. I thought this was very enjoyable and quite benign, what a difference a week makes! I only needed electronic help for 22d, wonder if I’ll remember it.
    Lots to like here, I think I’ll pick 7a as fave as spent a hugely enjoyable holiday there once, even saw some of the horses.
    Thanks to Giovanni and to the 2Kiwis for locum duties.

    1. Funny isn’t it Merusa. I found last week a breeze compared to this. My vocabulary is not really up to Giovanni puzzles. But at least I learn new words.

      1. I’m always amazed at how differently we all use our brains! I can never get my head around RayT and it makes me so cross. Those who do get so much enjoyment and I feel I’m missing a lot of fun.

  20. I “umbly” apologise in advance for what follows but the numerous comments on 22 down lead me to the following atrocity (23a):

    “When driving he fumbles
    the Satnav and jumbles
    the directions to Mumbles.

    And so while he bumbles
    and increasingly grumbles
    his confidence crumbles.

    At last he rumbles-
    to the answer he tumbles.

    Admit! Technology humbles
    eat pie of umbles!”

    Trusting that i will remain welcome on this blog,


    1. Forgive me if you know this already but Ashley Cooper was a superb tennis player in the late 50s who won three of the four Slams, including Wimbledon.

      The only downside is that he is an Aussie.

      Steady now, Sir Linkalot. Steady…..

      1. Thanks for your comments. Yes, all my own work (sad).I do know of my Aussie namesake, the tennis player and indeed was named before he came to fame. Greetings to all.

  21. Late today having been in London with the Younger Lamb – I did the crossword on the train on the way there.
    I enjoyed this more than I sometimes do on Fridays – some good clues, well, quite a few really.
    21d was my last answer – even though I did, eventually, get it I didn’t spot the fact that it was a lurker. Oh dear.
    I must tell husband about the clue for 15a – it’ll probably make him laugh!
    I particularly liked 10 and 12a and 5 and 16d.
    With thanks to Giovanni and to the 2 K’s – I hope your blissful mood continues.

  22. Morning all.
    Quite surprised that 22a was unfamiliar to so many people. We both new it so it must have been something we picked up from a crossword sometime in the past that managed to get past our short-term memories.
    The answer to 7a and particularly the horses reminded me (Colin) of a jigsaw puzzle that I tackled many years ago. It was a veritable Elgar of a jigsaw with white horses splashing in the surf and, if I remember correctly, even the sky was misty. Jigsaw doers will appreciate the challenge that was.

  23. Friday’s usual offering of obscure words, general knowledge and dated Christian names This setter is never going to be my favourite though he obviously appeals to the majority on here so he must be doing something right!

  24. The 2Kiwis have worked hard this week! Thank you for some clear, neat hinting. Also thanks to Giovanni for a puzzle that was precise and fair and quite challenging in parts. The top third gave me most trouble but got there eventually. I liked 11a, 12a and 22a with favourite being 7a just for being such a romantic place. Hadn’t heard of 22d but was able to make a guess and confirm it online.

  25. Thought this was quite tricky, especially 7ac and 22d. The latter was one of those where if you didn’t know it, you didn’t know it, and I didn’t…

  26. Samuel Pepys, 8th July 1663, ‘Mrs Turner came in and did bring us an umble pie hot out of her oven, extraordinarily good.’

  27. Above my pay grade as usual for a Friday, with the down clues giving me the most trouble. 22d, never heard of, and not familiar with 2d, nor the use of the female term in 6d. Probably not used these days, when actresses are now referred to as actors. 12a gets my vote for COTD. Not a big sweet eater so couldn’t even do the anagram at 20a. If it’s not coffee ice cream with blueberries and raspberries I’ll pass.

    1. Ooh, Charlotte Russe made with raspberries, yummie! It’s so rich, lovely cream, double yummie!

  28. Got there eventually and agree 12a is my cotd too but I did like 19a mainly because it reminded me of the classic Fairport Convention album Liege and 19a I will leave you to digest the 2nd slice of 20a in recent memory with this…

  29. Overall very satisfying to work through one this tough. Despite 12a being very clever, and things being usually precise (even if hard), I think 4d doesn’t work. Introduced by is not the same as introduced to, which is what the answer seems to require. Anyway, DG has given the obscure word part of the brain a good going over!

  30. Not enjoyable – didn’t see 3d & 26d. I don’t like 3/4 letter answers anyway

  31. Could not do most of the rhs of this one…sigh….

    But it will not stop me from trying.

    Thanks to the setter and to the 2Kiwis.

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