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DT 28737 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28737 (Hints)

The Saturday Crossword Club

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When I solve a puzzle online, I try to solve the clues in the order they are presented. Today I achieved that for probably the first time with a daily cryptic. The downside of this is that it makes it difficult to pick the harder clues for these hints, so I have provided a hint for every other clue.

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct as “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow.


1a    Broken sculpture (4)
Two definitions

6a    Villain heading off for part of church (4)
Drop the initial letter (heading off) from a villain

9a    Access space by bay perhaps (6)
A space used in printing followed by the type of plant of which bay is an example (perhaps)

11a    Drawing cleaner fuel (8)
A cleaner followed by a fossil fuel

15a    Standards applied to cleric (6)
Standard scores followed by a word meaning applied to

19a    Doctor upset carrying hooligan by a carriage (8)
The reversal (upset, usually a down-clue construct) of a doctor around a hooligan and the A from the clue

22a    Betook meat feast, cooked, and large fruit (9,6)
An anagram (cooked) of BETOOK MEAT FEAST

24a    Historical novelist greeting the queen (5)
A greeting followed by our Queen’s royal cipher

25a    Arrest devil? (4)
Two more definitions


1d    Flower that’s flatter round top of calyx (9)
A phrasal verb meaning to flatter (6,2) around the initial letter (top) of C[alyx]

3d    Stop broadcasting comedian introducing uplifting poems (5,4)
A comedian around the reversal (uplifting in a down clue) of some poems

5d    Starters of a spicy Latin American sauce served up (5)
The reversal (served up) of the initial letters (starters) of five words in the clue

7d    See a large elk get lost! (7)
The single-letter Latin abbreviation for “see” or “refer to” followed by the A from the clue and a large elk

13d    Person in charge, a live wire maybe (9)
This piece of wire could (maybe) be live

16d    Help carrying flightless bird for fool (7)
A three-letter word meaning help or assistance around a flightless bird

18d    I’m a bank that’s put up folding stuff (7)
I’M and A from the clue followed by a type of bank or financial institution, all reversed (put up in a down clue)

20d    Make plans to steal lead from roof? (5)
Drop (steal) the initial letter (lead) from a type of roof

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The Quick Crossword pun: rasher+gnarl=rationale

65 comments on “DT 28737 (Hints)

  1. A comfortable solve leaving me ample time to concentrate on the vegetable patch that has been neglected for far too long.
    This was one of those crosswords where the enjoyment was in solving the excellent set of clues rather than the scale of the challenge.
    I though the anagram at 8a was very good.
    We had 19a recently?
    Last one in was 21a, probably an oldie but new to me.
    Thanks BD and Mr.Ron.

  2. 1* / 3*. I found this a light but enjoyable Saturday prize puzzle with 21a my favourite.

    Many thanks to the setter and to BD.

  3. I didn’t find that as easy as BD but that is to be expected. I have let my puzzling bone atrophy a bit lately. Most trouble in the SE but I will keep specifics to myself as I don’t want to end up on the naughty step.
    Still solved in 2 brew time sans hints and with only minimal googling to sort out the unmentioned specifics so all in all a v satisfactory Saturday.
    Thanks to BD and Mysteron.
    I hope to meet a few of you next Tuesday.

    1. PS. I don’t normally notice or consider the crossword grid, but today there seems to be more “white” in evidence than normal and a total of 30 clues – good value for money, I presume.

  4. Nothing over taxing today. I too usually work my way down the across clues followed by the down and then after a first run through I go back to the beginning to answer more with the benefit of some crossing words. 8a sprang immediately to mind so that was a productive start. 21a and 14d raised smiles. Took a while to parse 4d. TVM Mysteron and BD.

  5. Like Angellov, it was 21a & 14d that produced the smiles here.
    No problems to report beyond the fact that I wasn’t very convinced by the ‘bank’ in 18d – surely it’s a system used rather than an actual bank?

    Thanks to Mr Ron for the puzzle and to BD for the club.

      1. It was, Senf. It was based in Bootle and used by my parents during that time despite their son working for two of the major High Street banks!

      2. I had the same thoughts and did the checking. The word appears to be an old word for a system of banking rather than a specific bank. Then it was used for a bank in UK but had many changes over the years until at Senf says being absorbed in 2003 by a bank which has itself now disappeared. C’est la vie! Like Aljanon my parents used it too.

    1. Exactly Jane. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      [Redacted – please read the instructions given in red at the end of the hints]

      1. Apologies, I consider myself duly reprimanded and have assigned myself to a spell in the naughty corner possibly sans cake.

    2. I was a customer of that bank – it has been through several new ‘names’ since

      1. I’ve just made a similar observation, Sue, as a reply to Senf’s comment above.

      2. I was also a customer of that bank for many years, and very good it was too, until it was taken over by another outfit which stripped it of all its unique features (and in the process lost my custom).

      3. I was working at Santander when they took over the Alliance and Leicester, and with it what was left of the bank in question.

        1. What is so silly is that I thought at first you were saying the Japanese folding game was also the name of a bank! The right answer was run by the Post Office and was, I suppose, a forerunner of online banking?

  6. This proved to be quite a straightforward romp with some nice touches. Enjoyed 4d, 8 ac, 16d. Will try solving clues in the order they are presented in future but not always possible with more difficult puzzles. Many thanks to BD and the setter

    1. I don’t like solving in order. I prefer to find one I can do and then one thing leads to another! The beauty of this weird method is that sometimes near the end when you are stuck you find a clue which was missed in this process which you can do and which opens more doors (little white boxes). Perhaps I should see a psychiatrist.

  7. Very straightforward, quite enjoyable, and completed at a fast gallop – */***.

    I hope that does not mean that tomorrow’s Virgilius is going to be in the ‘stinker’ range.

    Favourite – a toss-up between 1d and 14d.

    Thanks to the setter and BD.

  8. Nice, enjoyable puzzle – nothing too tricky but thought it was well-clued.

    Like others I’m not totally convinced by 18d. It was a bung in until I’d read the hints.

    Favourites were 1d and 11a

    Thanks to the setter and BD.

  9. All done nice and early so I can relax and enjoy “my” weekend with today falling between my birthday and Mother’s Day. And the weather is gorgeous, to boot. 21A and 24A tickled my fancy. thanks BD and the setter.

    1. Don’t talk to Mrs BD about Mother’s Day – it is an American abomination not, to my knowledge, celebrated in the UK. Mothering Sunday was on the fourth Sunday of Lent (11th March this year).

      Happy Birthday. :rose:

      1. I agree wholeheartedly with Mrs BD

        Happy Birthday to Expat Chris with a :rose: from me too

      2. As an abominable American who spends some time in the UK, I must say that holidays honouring one’s parents make more sense to me than regularly celebrating your banks :)

        Happy Birthday and Happy Mother’s Day, Chris

          1. No problem with Mothering Sunday. I do have a problem with the English version being called Mother’s Day by some. Each to his own.

            1. I do very well! My English domiciled son sends me flowers for Mothering Sunday and my Canadian domiciled daughter sends them for Mother’s Day. the freesias are scenting the living room as I write.

      3. As one who was personally insulted by this site for my admittedly thoughtless negative remark about an Americanism, I think it rather rich that the site owner can do worse with impunity. I shall not be back.

        1. I wasn’t happy with the reaction to your earlier comment. American users of this site should appreciate the fact that it is a UK site about UK crosswords and they are visitors here and should respect that fact. I wouldn’t go on to a US site and complain about their use/abuse of our language.

          1. Let me apologise for my bad manners, my mother would be horrified. I thought we were part of the commentariat, I hadn’t realised that we were outsiders just looking in. I’ll remember that in future. Sorry, BD.

    2. (Mothering Sunday has its roots in people visiting their “mother” church and nothing to do with celebrating motherhood or honouring one’s mother. Mother’s Day is a secular celebration which is all about the latter. If conflating Mother’s day with Mothering Sunday is something to get worked up about, I don’t think that an American marking an American celebration day is.)

      Happy Birthday for yesterday, and and Happy Mother’s Day for tomorrow, Chris.

      1. Thanks.

        Happy Birthday and Mother’s Day, Chris. As I have no children, my Mother’s Day will be celebrated by Sadie.

      2. Mother’s Day in the US is definitely a Hallmark event, unlike Mothering Sunday in the UK, a religious event. So I suspect the US version was created to honor mothers, without offending anyone. Which is why Thanksgiving is the most widely celebrated holiday over here.

      3. FYI, in Costa Rica, Mother’s Day, August 15, is a national holiday with everything shutting down, as Mr BL discovered on arriving there on a business trip…

      4. Apprentices and domestic servants visiting their mother church would surely have made the most of this rare opportunity to visit their mothers. Our Mothering Sunday was invented by Constance Smith in the early 20th century, taking inspiration from the American version which was already established (with no assistance from Hallmark).

    3. Thanks y’all.

      I live here, so we roll with the flow and celebrate Mother’s Day, July 4th and Thanksgiving. My roots are in England, where I was born, so we also celebrate Boxing Day in our house (and my American friends call ahead to make sure I’m making scotch eggs and sausage rolls!).

      It’s a nice and balmy 91F right now so we’re relaxing with a very British Broker’s G&T. Cheers!

  10. 1.5* /3.5* from me for this delightfully straightforward yet fun prize puzzle. 21a was my last one in and runner up to my favourite, 20d. No problem with 18d as I fully agree with CS’s comments at #6.

    Thanks to the Saturday setter and BD.

  11. A really enjoyable solve and a delightful change from a morning digging clay soil in the hope that something will grow. Thank you to the setter and BD whose help I Did not need, quite a change!

  12. A smooth start to fill in the North then as with the rest of the week a slow finish in the South. But got there without the blog. I thought 11ac was an interesting misdirection for “cleaner fuel”. Favourites 1dn, 21ac and 20dn.

    Thanks BD and Mr Ron

  13. What the heck is 8a all about. I know [think] it’s an anagram and have first and last word I think but what is it ?


    1. Try typing the first eight letters into Google then the algorithm should give you the answer and therefore the meaning.

  14. For once I needed no hints so I am guessing it was easier than usually but very enjoyable. The ‘posh boys’ of 8a gave me the answer I then had to check the anagram was correct :D

    Liked 22a too – in fact I like anagrams BUT I have to write all the letters in a ‘cloud’ to break my thoughts away from the source words. Don’t know if I am alone in doing that.


    1. I do exactly the same, the best way to rid yourself of the misdirection. An enjoyable solve today but a bit surprised nobody has wondered about the clue in 14d which surely should have been ‘what shoplifters do’…?

    2. Didn’t need to write out a cloud on this one as I was doing it electronically but when they are proving themselves a bit tricky I often use the killer sudoku grid and bung the fodder in a square and see if any thing pops out. Same with Countdown where I reserve the corners and centres for consonants and the rest for vowels, I get really annoyed at contestants who select more than 4 vowels!

  15. Greetings from Bardolino on the shores of Lake Garda, where the hotel WiFi is infinitely faster than any thing we get at home. I felt very inadequate when I read BD’s opening comment – this puzzle was far from a write in for me but very enjoyable nonetheless. ***/****. Didn’t know the N word in 9 across and after the hint I then misentered it with my usual typo before pressing ‘send’ to ensure that, yet again, I won’t win a prize! How I wish they would give us a ‘puzzle correct’ signal, like they used to. Hey ho. Grazie, to the setter & BD.

  16. Found this quite tough in places, but glad to have got there in the end. The anagram at 8a held out longest, as I had never heard of it, but Mr BL came to my rescue.

  17. I found this a truly delightful solve, lots to love here.
    Strangely enough, the only clue that held me up was 9a, there was a huge clang when the penny dropped.
    My fave was 8a which went in on first pass, seconded by 21a.
    Thanks to the setter and to BD for his hints and tips.

  18. Very nice puzzle I thought although I was not confident about 9a as I always forget this particular type of space. Nearly put wrong ending for 10a but stopped myself in time. My last ones in were 15d and 15a. I had thought of another synonym for comedian (3d) but got back on track and this was one of my favourites. Don’t think I have ever seen 4d before but very good and I don’t think there are any pronunciation problems. 14d another favourite but I am with David P as should be “shoplifters do” . Thanks setter whoever you may be and Big D.

  19. Loved today’s crossword. Very enjoyable and I’ve learned about a new sport to boot. Thanks to all the usual suspects. Enjoy the weekend everybody

  20. I thought that was good fun and not too difficult although I had trouble with my last few answers – no excuses – I just did.
    Having got 8a at last I think I remember seeing it before – sometime in the dim and distant past.
    I liked 17 and 21a and 7d. My favourite was 1d.
    With thanks to whoever set this one and to BD.
    Have cut the grass and now it’s absolutely pouring with rain so feeling very smug.

  21. Great fun with some lovely clues of which 21a and 7d were prime examples. The former was my favourite.
    Thanks to the setter, and to BD for the hints.

  22. Greetings from Sunny Crete . Not a good start to the day due to a warning from EasyJet that the French air traffic controllers were on strike yet again However flight was on time and crossword completed well before landing .
    Thanks to everyone and Fathers Day now being advertised in shops !!

  23. I struggled today, finishing in about ***/**** time. As everyone else seems to think this was a breeze, perhaps I’m just off-form today. Last in 9ac that I failed miserably to understand, and guessed, so thanks for the hint above at which point all became clear.

  24. Completed in short time despite having family visitors, unlike last week!
    Interesting to see the debate on Americanisms -does anyone wonder why they refer to killOmetter but never milllIMetter or cent IM etter? So many here following suit…..
    Back to the crossy there were some lively clues -1d and 14d with 8a and 22a
    Thanks to BD for his hints, for once not required! – and the compiler for his humour.

  25. Can’t get over how good this site is, a view obviously shared by regular contributors. One thing has puzzled me: how are some of them/you able to identify the compiler? Am I missing something obvious?

    1. The simple answer to your question is ‘yes’ – it is a Frequently Asked Question so you’ll find what you seek under the FAQ tab at the top of the page

  26. Can we please rejoice! This is the first cryptic I’ve managed to complete without using any of the hints on here! Mum and Dad clarified a reason for one but I’m still feeling rather chuffed…

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