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DT 30517

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 30517
Hints and tips by Huntsman

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BD Rating – Difficulty ** –  Enjoyment ***

Looks like we’ve a wet one today so it’ll be another day of finding things to amuse myself with in order to put off attending to domestic chores. Guess a puzzle or two may come into it & may try to catch another of the award nominated films at a cinema matinee. I saw & enjoyed Michael Mann’s Ferrari last night & am very surprised Penelope Cruz’s performance as Enzo’s wife was overlooked in the BAFTA nominations.

I reckon today’s AP puzzle about on a par with yesterday in terms of difficulty. It took me longer to complete today but I suspect that was because I was still half asleep tackling it. Nicely clued with a good mixture of clue types & one or two misleading surfaces I thought it a pleasant albeit pretty straightforward Tuesday puzzle.

In the following hints, definitions are underlined, indicators are mostly in parentheses, and answers are revealed by clicking where shown as usual. Please leave a comment below on how you got on with the puzzle.


1a Swears at adult leaving public transport (5)
BUSES: remove (leaving) the single letter for Adult from the front of a synonym for swears at.

4a Amazing bird concealing tail in nest (9)
STARTLING: insert (concealing) the final letter (tail in) of nesT into a small to medium size passerine bird.

9a Large pet damaged hotel cable (9)
TELEGRAPH: an anagram (damaged) of LARGE PET + the letter Hotel represents (NATO phonetic alphabet).

10a Bug? Some believe epidemic’s over (5)
PEEVE: a reverse lurker (some/over) found in the words between the indicators. A nicely misleading surface

11a Graceful European student, for example, with a set of books (7)
ELEGANT: link the following – the single letter for European + that for student + the abbreviation of for example + A in the clue + a biblical set of books.

12a Former lover mentioned getting aroused (7)
EXCITED: the usual for former lover + another word for mentioned or quoted.

13a Woods set to lose heart after shout from golfer (6)
FOREST: a shout of warning on the golf course following an errant shot followed by (after) SeT in the clue having removed the middle letter (lose heart). Nowt to with the fella pictured below.

15a Substitutes concerned with soft strings on football boots? (8)
REPLACES: a two letter term for concerned with + the musical letter for soft + the strings you’d find on footie boots or indeed plenty of other items footwear.

18a Finding out leader’s changed? Fancy! (8)
YEARNING: replace the first letter (leader changed) of a word for finding out.

20a Screw – one left over found within wide-mouthed vessel (6)
JAILOR: place the letter for one (Roman numeral) + the single letter for Left & that for Over (cricket) all inside of a type of wide-mouthed vessel.

23a Animal shelter with dog inside house (7)
COTTAGE: insert a synonym for dog or follow inside a type of shelter (for pigeons or doves for example)

24a Farmer may drive this rubbish wagon in reverse (7)
TRACTOR: reverse both a word for rubbish & a type of wagon.

26a Love a party with Royal Engineers (5)
ADORE: A from the clue + the usual for a party + the abbreviation for Royal Engineers.

27a Refreshment break – work even less after little energy (9)
ELEVENSES: an anagram (work) of EVEN LESS preceded by the single letter for Energy (physics).

28a Paused hospital diets and ate nuts (9)
HESITATED: the single letter for Hospital followed by an anagram (nuts) of DIETS ATE.

29a Grows flowers, but not the first one (5)
RISES : remove the initial letter (not the first one) from a flowering plant with many species.


1d Stroke goat, maybe, then run away (9)
BUTTERFLY: a term for a goat for example (referencing a propensity to headbutt each other to establish dominance) + a word for to run away or flee.

2d Victor entering only possible answer (5)
SOLVE: insert Victor (NATO phonetic alphabet) into a synonym for only.

3d Marks smeared in glass (7)
SIGNALS: an anagram (smeared) of IN GLASS.

4d Lists both small and large insects (6)
SLANTS: the single letter for Small + that for Large + insects of the formicidae family.

5d Adult allowed in these short runners (8)
ATHLETES: the single letter for Adult + a truncated (short)  thes(e) from the clue into which you insert another word for allowed.

6d Pity about California- it’s to be expected (7)
TYPICAL: an anagram (about) of PITY + one of the official abbreviations for the 3rd largest US state.

7d The same Conservative in denial? It circulates (9)
IDENTICAL : an anagram (circulates) of the single letter for Conservative + DENIAL IT.

8d Golf does perhaps upset huge appetite (5)
GREED: reverse (upset) does as in the females & insert the letter for Golf (NATO phonetic alphabet again)

14d King with ecstasy put on suits creating responses (9)
REACTIONS: the Latin abbreviation for King + the single letter for the recreational drug Ecstasy + a word for suits in a legal context.

16d Shocks almost guaranteed power increases (9)
SURPRISES: a shortened synonym (almost) for guaranteed + the single letter for Power + a word meaning increases.

17d Grab dividends from the bank (8)
INTEREST: double definition – the former as in your attention maybe.

19d Everyone ate stolen sandwiches – most smart (7)
NEATEST: a lurker (sandwiches) found in the first three words of the clue.

21d Lay a rug on street in France that has to be taken up (7)
AMATEUR: A in the clue + a type of rug or floor covering + a reversal (taken up) of the French for street.

22d Go to a bike race on purpose (6)
ATTEND: A from the clue + the bike race abbreviation ( the Isle of Man Tourist Trophy probably the most famous) + a synonym for purpose or objective.

23d Train carriage (5)
COACH: a straightforward double definition.

25d Hardy character keeping fit ultimately for trials (5)
TESTS: insert the final letter (keeping/ultimately) of fiT into the much wronged title character of my favourite Hardy novel – played by Nastassja Kinski in Polanski’s scenically splendid film of the book.


No 16d that my top two, 8d & 13a, are both golf related. 17d & 23a can fight it out for the last podium spot. Please tell us which ones ticked your boxes.

I’m hugely looking forward to seeing Jason Isbell at the Union Chapel this Sunday. He’s playing a surprise solo gig without his band, The 400 Unit. I hope this one makes the set list

Today’s Quick Crossword pun: CON + FIR + RENTS + CALLS =  CONFERENCE CALLS


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  1. For Tuesday fare I found this one offered a little more resistance than usual. That said it was all very doable once my brain was engaged.
    A special mention for 27a because I love the word and it reminds me why English is such a lovely language.
    The poor folks in 5D must be getting somewhat tired as they have many outings recently.
    I was diverted in 23a as I thought the animal shelter a cage and could not make OTT work as a dog!
    Others of note for me were 9a, 11a, 1D and 21D, but my fave of the day was 24a.
    Thanks to the setter and to Huntsman whose help I needed parsing 23a.

  2. 1.5*/4*. A typical Tuesday puzzle – light and great fun.

    The unusual spelling of 20a was new to me and I spent too long before the parsing penny dropped trying to work out how OTT could equal “dog” in 23a, having erroneously assumed that “cage” was the, admittedly unpleasant, animal shelter.

    My repetition bleeped with “adult” = A appearing twice.

    My top picks mainly thanks to the surface readings were 10a, 13a, 27a, 1d & 7d.

    Many thanks to presumably Anthony Plumb and to Hintsman.

      1. I’ve just realised that my 20a was wrong! I didn’t pay attention to “over”, sloppy of me. I’ve never heard of that spelling.

  3. For some reason this one fell corner by corner – NE,NW, SW then SE – the first time that has been the way for me. Lots of anagrams and all very pleasant so a */**** with our usual horned indicator in 1d – my COTD – although I thought 21d a close second. Most enjoyable. Thanks Huntsman and the setter.

  4. Typically Tuesdayish perfectly partnered with a Floughie Lady Toughie – **/****

    Candidates for favourite – 29a, 4d, and 8d – and the winner is 8d.

    Thanks to Mr Plumb and Huntsman.

  5. As others have said a fun puzzle ,nicely clued throughout.
    I too was unsure of the spelling of the 20a screw-absent from my Chambers, failed to parse 8d, thanks to Huntsman.- a real D’oh moment!
    Favourite was 1d followed by 23a.
    A **/**** for me

    1. 20a in Revised 13th Edition Page 815 under the four letter establishment the ‘screw’ works in with the more familiar version and another variant.

  6. Yep it took me some time to see the difference between the dog and dove cage too but other than that nothing to scare the quadrupeds, Thanks to Mr P and Andy on the first tee – back to the grind

    PS you have the wrong answer under the click here for 16d I couldn’t understand your post amble

    1. Think I was taking a bite out of my toast & marmalade when I entered that one & lost concentration & went back to the footie boots – now corrected. Ta

  7. Really enjoyable guzzle today but I also wondered about the OTT dog! Best bit of the day for me is that I have managed to insert a ‘fake’ cartridge into my HP Envy printer and its working perfectly well – I was told HP would immediately stop my computer from working. I have just noticed an email from them has arrived so maybe I’m being a bit premature but it was half the price of the HP version. Thanks to all for the fun.

    1. Oh really? We are just about to buy another wretched cartridge from HP and they are so expensive and I can only get them in Cambridge. When we first had this printer we signed up to have cartridges delivered as ‘we needed them’ but they were over enthusiastic!

      1. cartridgesave.co.uk and if you look at the reviews they are nearly all 5* – free next day delivery. You can get the genuine HP ones off Amazon a bit cheaper but my fake one is perfect. When I was secretary of the Arts Society, our Treasurer gave me a good tip. When you click on ‘print’ it gives some options. Click on ‘fast economical print’ – I should think I got twice as many sheets than before,

        1. Oh thank you, I shall give it a whirl ! I do click on fast economical printing and print on the
          reverse as well, saving paper (and the planet). Mine is also HO Envy 5546

          1. Mines an Envy 4527 so probably an older version. I also print on the reverse, sometimes it does it automatically (don’t know how it turns the paper over) but sometimes it does one side and tells me to reinsert the paper and I always get it wrong and get one page upside down! It’s quite clever though as I can print out a report that tells me how many copies I’ve printed since we got the printer.

    2. I bought a fake cartridge for my HP at half the price. I do get the occasional lighter spots but it doesn’t bother me. I’m not printing for work any more, who cares if I get a few faded spots.

      1. I have an Epsom printer and I never purchase genuine cartridges; not at their ridiculous prices.

        Instead, I get “fake” ones from Amazon. They work perfectly well. I do get a warning when I initially insert the fakes telling me that they are not genuine, and do I want to continue? I select YES and all is well.

    3. I had problems with fakes in the past when trying to right a printer fault so of course I was persuaded to go back to Epson cartridges

  8. I enjoyed every moment of this, the only hold-ups being parsing problems of my own making. 23a required the hint before the parsing penny dropped and spelling 20a incorrectly left me with an ‘e’ that I couldn’t account for. The folk at 5d are certainly getting a run for their money lately. They’ll catch up with that merry band of players soon! It could be an overfull podium today, but I’ll settle for the clever misdirection at 8d as favourite, joined by 2d and 21d. Many thanks to our setter and to Huntsman.

  9. Well, this pleasant stroll through Crosswordland brightened up a dreary morning.

    An extremely straightforward solve with perfectly crafted clues though it was a shame that 29a and the second half of 16d were so close to each other.

    My podium is 9a, 15a and 8d.

    Many thanks to AP and Hoots Mon!.


  10. Pleasant puzzle. Only the spelling at 20a which I thought should have been an ‘e’ – but that wouldn’t parse.
    There are 4 words in the quickie pun

    1. I did wonder about that JS but don’t have the benefit of the clues being italicised in the digital edition – I’ll amend accordingly

  11. Several chestnuts in this one but nevertheless an enjoyable solve. Top clues here were the animal shelter – once I’d realised it wasn’t a cage! – and the farmer’s rubbish wagon.

    Thanks to Mr Plumb and to Huntsman for the review – couple of adjustments needed in same.

  12. A pleasant and straightforward solve without any need for hints. Bit slow in parsing the second half of 8d 🙄. Thanks to setter and Huntsman.

  13. Enjoyable Tuesday fare, slightly more challenging than yesterday, appropriately enough. Was 16d at the repetition within the attached answers to 16d and 29a – rather clumsy, likewise arguably this being too adult a puzzle. Podium places to 4a for the surface, 23a for the construction, and 8d for the deception.

    2* / 3*

    Many thanks to the setter and to Huntsman

  14. Lots to enjoy this morning. I tackled the easier clues over breakfast, the remainder after a couple of hours’ work (ministering to tags). I find a little time away from the puzzle gives the brain’s deeper recesses some processing time and the pet shelter, ungulates and 19d’s sneaky lurker fell into place.
    Thanks to setter and Huntsman.

  15. Great guzzle! I had a slow start but they soon began to fall once my brain got going. The anagram at 3d was quite clever and I didn’t see it for ages. I had the wrong animal enclosure at first for 23a until I realised the dog was not the four legged variety. I tried to begin 1d with “pat” for a while then the real meaning of “stroke” hit me. 8d also foxed me because I took the second word at face value. My COTD is 21d with yet another word that has a number of meanings.

    Many thanks to the setter for the fun challenge. Thank you, Hintsman for the hunts, which I will now read. I also haven’t read the comments as yet so my apologies if I have mentioned topics already covered.

    Storm Jocelyn is getting going in The Marches as if we needed more water!

  16. Enjoyed today’s puzzle with only 23a not parsed until I read the hints.
    I particularly liked 10a, 20a, 8d and 21d.
    Thanks to setter and hinter as always.

  17. Nicely assembled puzzle.
    No undue hold-ups,
    Except, perhaps by a
    Smidgen, 15a.
    Yet proof again, in 3d
    That any word in the
    English language can
    Be an anagram indicator.
    Thanks to the setter and Huntsman

  18. It took me a while to get on to Mr P’s wavelength but that’s nothing new. Had the alternative spelling for 20a but couldn’t parse it so am grateful to Huntsman for correcting my error. Very enjoyable all round. Thanks to Mr P and Huntsman.

  19. Terrific guzzle. Like many others I found myself with an unwanted ‘e’ at 20a. I pondered the American spelling (with a ‘g’ at the start) but of course that wouldn’t parse. That was my only moment of dillying and dallying really. Although there may have been a minute or two of shilly-shallying too. Possibly I hummed and hawed. Though some would say hemmed and hawed.

    Off to Stamford Bridge later on with the need to overcome a one goal deficit in the semi-final of the League Cup (Carabao if you must). As ever, I fear the worst.

    Thanks to the setter and Hintsman.

    More Jason Isbell – here with The 400 Unit

    1. The alternative spelling of 20a starting with a “g” is definitely not North American. It would never be seen here. I’d have to say it is as British as they come.

  20. Yesterday someone commented that orchestras might be miffed at being called bands. Not so. A bell rang and I checked with George who used to be the Director of the Cambridge Symphony Orchestra. They only came together 4 or 5 times a year so it fitted in well with his ‘day’ job and he lives music. He confirmed that all groups of musicians, classical, dance, jazz etc refer to themselves as bands. Things may have changed now of course but that was the norm.
    To the Guzzle. Brilliant, loved it. 9,24,27,38a and 1,8,21d got daisies and the favourite is 8d. Or possibly the carpet laid on a French street. Many thanks to Messrs Setter & Hintsman from a rain drenched Cambridge.

    1. Daisy I have no idea why your comment was waiting in moderation for approval happened to see it in my email box & it was an honour to give it the ok – I usually eave that sort of thing to the powers that be.

      1. Thank you for rescuing me. You will have noticed that I sent it again, that is because my
        screen suddenly went blank and I had to type the whole thing again. I bothered to do
        it because I thought the ‘band’ issue was worth noting. I am sure Terence must know
        this too?

  21. Took a while to get this puzzle started. Only a couple came to light on first read through. Gradually started in NE and finished in the SE. Nothing too tricky and lots of smiles on the way too.


    Favourites include 9a, 13a, 20a, 6d & 18d — with winner 20a
    Smiles all over but really liked 13a, 20a, 27a & 1d

    Thanks to AP & Huntsman for blog/hints

  22. I enjoyed this puzzle very much. It was pitched at just the right level for me. Some relatively easy clues and some that required a little head scratching.

    No hints needed today.

  23. I’ve had a long enforced break from crosswords and thought I’d find it tough to get back into solving, but the opposite is true. The rest must have done the brain cells good as I flew through yesterday’s and today’s. I still don’t feel ready for the Toughie though!

  24. Finished without the hints, as others have said I could not see how to explain the dog in my answer to 23a. Some lovely clues with enough misdirection to make it fun.

    Many thanks to AP and to Huntsman for the hints

  25. Fell into just about every bear trap. Knowing several answers had to be wrong made it all the more fun and eventually found the right paths without aid. Chopped vegetables for 50 minutes this morning as contribution for the Arts Society lunch. Just about all of us are retired and we fed our minds on Walter Sickert and the Camden Town Circle and then fed our bodies on good honest vitals. Splendid day so far and many thanks to setter and huntsman

  26. This was a lot trickier than yesterday for me, wavelength says it all. Of course I swallowed the misdirection at 8d, took a long time to tumble to that, wasn’t it clever? I think fave is 24a but so much more could have been top dog.
    Thank you setter for the fun and Hintsman for helping me along.

  27. Very enjoyable thank you to the setter. I still don’t understand 8 d, it had to be “greed”, but I am probably being dense in not understanding the explanation.

    1. Welcome to the blog, Chief.
      8d It’s the Phonetic Alphabet letter represented by Golf (G) + the reversal of does (where does are female deer, so REED).

  28. Today’s challenge was reasonably legato and pleasurable with just a hitch or two in the SE. Needed prompt to sort 23a dog and likewise my 8d bung-in. Great to unusually see 27a mentioned. The quest for novel anagram indicators continues as per iffy 3a. I suppose 18a can be fancy. 21d is becoming a bad penny in varying guises. My Fav was 25d. Thank you MrP and Huntsman.

    1. As for anagram indicators, any word that denotes movement, mixing, transformation, intoxication, confusion, or insanity appears to be fair game. Have I missed any?

      So, I had no issue with “smeared”.

  29. More difficult than yesterday but very solvable 😃 ***/*** lots of favourites: 4a, 15a, 27a and 4d and 22d 🤗 Thanks to AP ( I don’t think he is the real McCoy😬) and to the Huntsman. Horrible wet day today in the East 🌧

  30. Good evening

    Rattled through the top half of today’s crozzie, then sat back and surveyed the arid, inkless void that was the bottom half!

    That was late this morning; since then, I filled in some answers on the way into work, and now, sat sitting in the crew room at Plymouth Station, my pen is down. Some tremendous wit and misdirection at work here; I particularly liked 21d, 8d, and my COTD, 1d.

    My thanks to our compiler (Mr Plumb?) and to Huntsman.

  31. Very straightforward indeed. The only one I didn’t like was the alternative spelling of 20a which I’d never seen before and will
    certainly never use. When things are this straightforward it makes picking a favourite difficult but I’ll go for 23a as I was led up the garden path, like others, by the animal shelter. Thanks to the setter and Huntsman.

  32. Not on the wavelength of this at all. I found this a difficult slog, but it seems everyone else found this enjoyable and straightforward.

    I need the hints to solve 3 clues and to parse another.

    Thanks to all.

    1. Don’t you just hate it when that happens, Bananawarp? Everyone else it at the party and you’re Johnny-no-Mates!
      Don’t worry, it’s happened to all of us, especially me. 👍

      1. I do hate it but, thankfully I see other people making this observation much more frequently.

        Life would be boring if we were all the same!

  33. Another enjoyable Tuesday puzzle, with nothing to overstretch the old noggin.

    Thanks to AP for the puzzle and Huntsman for the hints, although I think that the hint for 7d should be an anagram of Conservative + DENIAL + IT.

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