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DT 30467 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 30467 (Hints)

The Saturday Crossword Club (hosted by crypticsue)

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A proper November morning with lots of bright sunshine but a very strong wind which appears to be coming straight from the North Pole. A perfect day to stay indoors and solve crosswords

A Prize Puzzle which didn’t take me long to solve, with some smiles along the way and the usual problem of picking which clues to hint. If I haven’t hinted the clue(s) you are stuck on, as usual I’d suggest starting by looking for anagrams.  I have written my entry for ‘Guess the Setter’ on a piece of paper so will be interested to see whether I’ve wasted my 50p bet

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct as “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow.

Across

1a    Sweet acting family not without love (7)
A three-generation American acting family and NoT (from the clue) without the ‘love’

9a    Fit silver on table at last (5)
The chemical symbol for silver, the ‘usual’ on [the subject of] and the last letter of tablE

11a    Year in company great on the whole (2,3,5)
The abbreviation for Year inserted into a group (company) followed by a synonym for great

14a    Personality from Poplar, in age fantastic, newsreader initially (6,6)
A lovely surface reading apart from the fact that this person came from Plymouth, not Poplar. An anagram (fantastic) of POPLAR IN AGE followed by the initial letter of Newsreader

22a    Papers taken into French region’s capital (10)
The capital of an American ‘region’ is obtained by inserting some abbreviated identity papers into a French region

25a    Generous sort welcoming writer in Whetstone? (9)
Although as far as the definition is concerned, Whetstone has a ‘misleading’ capital, it is also a London suburb. A person who is very generous ‘welcoming’ an item used for writing

28a    Eastern male, messenger casting first stone (7)
The abbreviations for Eastern and Male and a messenger without (casting) its first letter

Down

1d    Learner in wonderful times hanging loose? (6)
The abbreviation for Learner inserted into a slang adjective meaning wonderful followed by the word used in multiplication sums to mean times

8d    Magnanimous English group backing rave (8)
A reversal (backing) of the abbreviation for English and a set of things together (group) followed by a verb meaning to rave or rage

13d    In Hull, city racecourse for chariots (10)
An informal word meaning fashionable (in), a verb meaning to hull or separate from the husk and an Italian city

15d    Vessel recently located, complete, united leaderless country (9)
An explorer’s ship, sunk in 1915 and recently located. A verb meaning to complete, the abbreviation for United and a European country without its first letter (leaderless)

16d    Does this suggest I step on virgin snow? (3-5)
An anagram indicator suggesting you rearrange I STEP

23d    Monkey minus tail in animation (5)
An African monkey without (minus) its last letter

24d    Partner‘s surgery evidently reversible? (4)
This informal word for a partner has some reversible abbreviated surgery – one going forwards and the other reversed

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The Quick Crossword pun: KITSCH + IN SYNC = KITCHEN SINK

69 comments on “DT 30467 (Hints)
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  1. 2*/3.5*. I enjoyed this a lot with 27a, 3d & 13d my too picks.

    There was quite a lot of diverse GK required today but fortunately I knew most of it. The monkey in 23d was new for me, and I did wonder about the justification for the capital W in 25a until I found an obscure village in Leicestershire of that name.

    The surface of 14a is rather strained but definitely forgivable as it’s a very good clue.

    Many thanks to the setter and to CS.

    1. Totteridge & Whetstone is also an area of North London in the Borough of Barnet – rather affluent & also the home to my golf club, South Herts.

  2. Morning all! Took me a while to get into this, but then all started falling into place. Had to come here for help on 24d as I’ve never heard that term before. Enjoyed 14a and 26a. Thanks as ever for this wonderful resource!!
    PS – Did you mean to reveal the answer for 16d?? 🫣

    1. No – having provided full reviews of the Saturday Prize Puzzles since May 2010, my brain sometimes goes all automatic-pilot and forgets that I mustn’t include the solution on a Saturday.

  3. Is it just me who is finding these Saturday puzzles more tricky? Perhaps my remaining brain cells have started to decay exponentially.

    This one was completed at 3am after taking Emmy the Dog out on one of her night-time rambles and being unable to get back to sleep. Lots of excellent clues which parsed nicely and perhaps suited those of my era with the 14a personality and the 12a obscure combo (with maybe another combo elsewhere in the answers?).

    Favourites include the clever 26a, the racecourse at 13d but my COTD must be 14a.

    Thanks to the setter and crypticsue.

      1. I think the same. I struggled with this, probably not on the compiler’s wavelength seeing others have breezed it

      1. Too hard for me too. I used to be able to do the Saturday cryptic comfortably: but not recently. Struggled even with this helpful advice. Wrong wavelength for me, no fun and left it with only 6 clues completed. Sorry!

      1. Emmy occasionally does not eat until mid-evening with the (other) end result not appearing until the early hours of the morning. Hence my nocturnal wandering. 🙂

  4. I agree with RD that the General Knowledge component of this guze was intriguing and attractive. The monkey was one I dimly remembered and I particularly enjoyed the geographical clues, 2d, 22a, 13d and 3d. It’s not often that I find so many clues that play to my strengths. Tganks to CS for the hints
    (27 F here today and heavy frost first thing). Ive no idea about the compiler but thanks anyway.

      1. Just keeping you all on your toes, H. I don’t want you getting bored. Where would we be without quirks like Terence’s list, Ray T’s sweethearts, Dada’s personal Thesaurus or even in a asmall way my Unwinesque typos.

  5. Just right for the SPP slot with perhaps a leaning towards those of us who sit in the ‘more senior’ category?
    Tops for me was the wonderful personality in 14a and I also ticked 10a along with 13,15&23d.

    Thanks to our setter (Cephas?) and to CS for the hints’n’pics.

  6. Rather like Dave P, above, I didn’t find this the breeze that windswept Sue found. I was humming and hawing all over the place. Especially hawing. More often than not these days I don’t need the hints but I leant on PC Security (anag) more than once today.

    The plan: watch Man City v Liverpool; then a late lunch by the fireside in a pub in the Surrey Hills. Could be worse.

    Thanks to the setter and Siouxsie Sioux.

  7. Good Saturday SPP fun – **/****

    I thought that the definition for 15d was a little vague, but, fortunately, the ‘instructions’ were clear enough.

    Several years ago, I slept with the 14a personality. We were staying in the same hotel on the outskirts of Bristol but had separate rooms,

    Candidates for favourite – 9a, 25a, 26a, 1d, and 13d – and the winner is 13d.

    Thanks to whomsoever and CS.

    1. Regarding 15d, luckily for me the leader of the expedition involving that vessel went to the same school as me (not at the same time, I hasten to add). As a result, the relatively recent discovery of its location was a piece of news that stuck in my brain.

  8. Not my cup of tea today…but you cannot please everyone every time…..

    Had to use the word wizard for 21a, 20d and 23d (didn’t know the monkey).

    Thanks to the setter and to crypticsue .

    Blinking Baltic here today…but bright and sunny.

  9. Happy to have finished this, but it did take a while (longish breakfast!) Some puzzling GK. Had to check that that 23d, which I guessed, was a tailless monkey. At least knew 14a, but having left UK for frogland in the early 70s, only just recognised the 12a folk. For us Oasis is a soft drink! Actually for some reason knew the answer, as a group they preceded the soft drink. Liked 18a and 13d (having lived next door to one for 20 years, but not many chatiots!
    Fave is 15d. My arty brother recently made a scale model (about 3ft) of the vessel for his local church; photo on request!
    Many thanks to the setter and CS for her endeavours!

  10. Tough, 3d doesn’t really work for me, I’m obviously missing something ( besides brain cells). 23d new to me. Thanks to all

    1. 3d – the definition is ‘of Scottish city’ – an anagram (turbulent) of RAIN BANE into which is inserted a party

    2. Difficult to help without being directed to the naughty step – but i’ll try. Take the word you believe to be the answer, subtract any letters you think could be part of an anagram for it and the letters left over will suddenly give you a ‘Road to Damascus’ moment. :-) :-)

  11. top notch entertainment – i felt all the clues were fair and the right side of challenging with no weak spots; just a lovely puzzle which i completed whist playing online bridge much to my partner’s chagrin. honestly, pauline i was concentrating i think……..

  12. I thought this Saturday puzzle was quite approachable with perhaps one clue/answer that will hold up or be troublesome, at least, to those not in the UK. No difficult or weird words either in this puzzle.

    1.5*/4* for me

    Favourites include 5a, 18a, 26a, 3d, 6d, 19d & 24d — with winner 26a … but I’ll have an order of 18a please.

    Thanks to setter & CS for hints/blog

  13. Just submitted this puzzle. There was no offer of a prize pen but instead a £50 gift voucher. Does this mean the pen is lost to us forever ? The point is that the crossword was fun with 27 a as favourite. Many thanks to all.

    1. I completed on line today as I had to wait for my husband to bring the paper. It is easy to submit but both this and the Sunday one are a different draw gor £50 and £25 respectively. I never see the winners published anywhere. The paper version is as before with entries by email as well as post. Fewer prizes than before – 3 fountain pens and five notepads. When I got a consolation prize years ago it was a nice ballpoint pen and notepad and the winners used to get a Mont Blanc pen.

  14. Highly enjoyable, entertaining and nicely testing, with 14a my favourite despite the slightly clunky surface.

    Many thanks to our Saturday setter and CS.

  15. Happily on wavelength for a brisk(ish) solve in under ** time. No issues with the GK fortunately other than the monkey – took a punt post solve as to the missing letter & chose right from what I thought were 3 feasible. Have an inkling this maybe a Chalicea production & very enjoyable it was too. 22a my fav.
    Thanks to the setter & to Sue

    1. Yes, we found it more difficult than usual. It was not one of mine. We have snow here – further from the Pole than CS but higher too.

  16. Enjoyed this very much but it was quite tricky in places – getting the long ones early helped. Glad I couldn’t give Huntsman a ‘reservation’ yesterday because my air fried pheasant was truly awful. I usually slow cook pheasant to keep it moist so this was horrid. I had to quietly eat the bacon half way through the cooking as it was so crispy but put another couple of rashers in for the last 5 mins. However, large stuffed mushrooms for lunch were excellent in the AF. Thanks to the setter and to CS – 20d was my favourite. Jolly cold but we are nearer the North Pole than CS!

  17. I finished it, but with eyebrow raised a few times. The 3d party seemed stretched and I am not sure about 24d. 16d seems essentially a GK question, although I happen to know it. I seem to recall someone on the blog supporting clues like 14a on the basis that the Telegraph puzzle is targeted at 70+ year olds. Having said all that, the crossword was overall quite good. 12a got ‘don’t look back in anger’ playing in my mind nostalgically.

      1. Thanks Sue, and thanks for taking the time to provide the hints. I shall read the explanation of 24d with interest too if it is expanded on. The answer seems to be almost the contrary of what I think the definition is. Certainly when I have heard the word used, it was. The BRB also seems to say it is something other than what I think the definition in the clue is. That was my last one in as even with the checkers and having followed the instructions in the clue I was balking at the answer! But you have confirmed the position, so I went with it.

      2. For some reason I flicked past your hint for 16d on the way to the hint for 24d! Apologies. I should read all the hints before commenting. I can see why it is cryptic now. I read the clue and just wrote the answer in as it seemed obvious without noticing the anagram!

  18. Top half went in somewhat speedily for Saturday but the bottom was a bit trickier, I like [redacted – as per the second paragraph of BD’s red instructions]
    Thanks to CS and setter, particularly for 12a, that allowed me to revisit some forgotten tunes

  19. Hard enough for me although looking again now I can’t see why I struggled so much.
    I thought 2d might be a bit dodgy.
    Lots of really good clues today so difficult to pick any in particular but I’ll try a few . . .
    . . . 12 and 14a and 1 and 16d. I think my favourite is 10a.
    Thank you to whoever set this crossword and to CS for all the hints and pics that you’ve done for the last 13 years!!! Blimey – that’s quite a while . . . .

  20. Bottom half went in first, and then it was a struggle to get on wavelength with the top. Not my favourite Saturday puzzle, rather disappointing as I look forward to it after the usual tricky Fridays. Thanks to setter and to the always smart CrypticSue.

  21. Very enjoyable fare.

    You’ve got to love a bit of ‘hello there’ GK once in a while. Not easy to pluck out 27a from ‘region’s capital’ but they’re all in my brain somewhere amongst the cobwebbed nooks and crannies.

    I was so happy and surprised (!) to see the synonym for ‘wonderful’ as I use it all the time. This setter is, to quote Mr Cowell, so ‘current’.

    My podium is the aforementioned 1d, 13d as it was nicely parsed and 19d.

    Many thanks to the setter and she of the crypt.

    2*/4*

  22. Most of it went in quite easily but then a bit of a strain. Does help if I’m looking at the right clue. I think 14a is very topical and not just for us oldies, although perhaps not the world over. Thanks Setter and Sue.

  23. A Super Saturday for me, lots to admire. Loved 14A amongst a stellar cast.

    I’m not sure they’re getting harder, the prize puzzles. The style is quite economical, to my way of thinking, which may have changed the feel slightly, but the ideas of late have been very neatly expressed. Happy customer.

  24. Strangely found this much tougher than yesterday’s guzzle. Although having finally got there I can’t understand why. Maybe the need to have checkers in place to reveal what GK our setter was getting at slowed me down – or perhaps listening to a football match commentary at the same time proves multitasking is not my forte! LOI the previously unheard of monkey.

    Thanks to our setter for the challenge and CS for the commentary.
    ***/**

  25. A huge slog for me, DNF in the SE. I can’t get 26a, 19d or 20d, I look forward to your full review CS. I had to google UK newsreader for 14a, I worked out the first name and it came up right away! I had heard of the monkey, it opened up that corner for me, and I knew the vessel at 15d. Without those bits of GK I would have been totally lost. I don’t know if 12a is right, I’m sure two letters are right, and I’ve never heard of Oasis, I’m assuming it’s some sort of pop band. I liked 25a and 5d.
    Thanks to setter, and much appreciation to CS for her help. Stay warm!

  26. Super puzzle, thanks to everyone. I think 14a is as good as constructed clue with surface as I have ever seen; considering the time line

  27. Tough but fun in the main. Mind you first pass lead to a degree of panic!
    I think the DT is trying to cut down the marking work on Prize Ps by making them hard.
    ****/***
    Thx to all

  28. Can’t say I enjoyed the now standard Saturday toughie today.

    A dnf with some of the SW unsolved. I have frankly lost interest.

    Thanks to all.

  29. Too hard for me, I am afraid. Almost a DAH (did about half) which is much worse than a DNF.
    I liked 26a and 2d. The hints helped a lot to get me nearly there.
    Thanks to the setter and for the hints.

  30. I found this tricky and used the hints to help complete it. That said it was still fun and I think I made heavy weather of it. I did not know the synonym in 24d.

    Many thanks to the setter and to CS for the needed hints.

  31. I found this trickier than usual for a Saturday puzzle but I got there in the end.

    It would have helped if I had not spent 10 minutes trying to find the answer to 27A by using the clue to 28A!
    DOH!

    Thanks to the compiler and hinter.

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