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DT 30380

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 30380

Hints and tips by 2Kiwis

BD Rating – Difficulty *** Enjoyment ****

Kia ora from Aotearoa.
Our rugby crazy country has been totally captivated by the Women’s Football World Cup. People who never watch sport (one of our team for example) have become enthusiastic fans and compulsive viewers. By the time this is published we will be sitting in front of TV, late at night (it’s in Oz), watching the semi-final. And who will we be supporting? Being true Kiwis, if we can’t support our own team, we automatically go for anyone who can beat that smug lot from across the ditch.
Enjoy the crossword everyone. We certainly did.

Please leave a comment telling us how you got on.


1a     A mechanism for dealing with complaints? (6,6)
IMMUNE SYSTEM : A cryptic definition of an innate characteristic of living things for dealing with afflictions.

9a     Stand in artist’s studio, or move slowly left (5)
EASEL : A word meaning move slowly or creep plus L(eft).

10a     Bloomer made by Hyde Park officer, we hear (9)
HYDRANGEA : Spoken out loud it could sound like someone working as a park officer in a London green area.

11a     An occasional dabbler in rugby union, daddy regularly gets zero in cricket (5,4)
RUDDY DUCK : The two letter abbreviation for rugby union, the first, third and fifth letter of ‘daddy’ and then a zero score in cricket.

12a     Praise sexton doing without clothes line (5)
EXTOL : The word sexton without its outside letters and then L(ine).

13a     I come travelling with Brit and like our passports? (9)
BIOMETRIC : An anagram (travelling) of I COME and BRIT.

16a     US stew — something chewed with unpleasant smell (5)
GUMBO : Something chewed that can sometimes make bubbles, and then an unpleasant smell associated with poor hygiene.

18a     Criminal teen beginning to repent, which is key for a PC (5)
ENTER : An anagram (criminal) of TEEN and the first letter of repent.

19a     Detective’s going around tough neighbourhoods (9)
DISTRICTS : A Detective Inspector, with her ‘S, surrounds tough or harsh.

20a     Not using up tomato sauce in vessel (5)
KETCH : Start with an alternative name for tomato sauce and remove ‘up’ from the clue.

22a     Row unable to mess up party that’s gone right? (3,6)
NEW LABOUR : An anagram ( to mess up) of ROW UNABLE.

25a     Using intellect, partially inspire a son in GCSEs (9)
REASONING : A lurker, hiding in the clue.

26a     Roman Catholic protecting priest’s holy artefact (5)
RELIC : Crossword’s favourite biblical priest is hiding in the letters for Roman Catholic
27a     In which you may find apples and pears in London? (7,5)
RHYMING SLANG : A cryptic definition. Rosie Lee or butcher’s hook would be other examples.


1d     One suit done badly, maybe worn in the wrong way (6,3)
INSIDE OUT : The Roman numeral one and an anagram (badly) of SUIT DONE.

2d     Asian ex-PM touring the Hollywood area (5)
MALAY : Ex PM, first name Theresa, contains the city where Hollywood is located.

3d     Asian ex-PM has extremely nice personnel, you heard (5)
NEHRU : The outside letters (extremely) of NicE, then the two letters now used for the occupation once called ‘personnel’ and a single letter homophone of the word ‘you’.

4d     Team thrills faithful supporters (9)
SIDEKICKS : Another word for a team and then exciting activities.

5d     Someone rummaging in dustbins, namely Captain America? (9)
SCAVENGER : The two letter abbreviation for the Latin word meaning namely, then a description applied to Captain America because of his mission to put the world right.

6d     Group rowing scoffed loudly (5)
EIGHT : A homophone (loudly) of scoffed or consumed.

7d     Fickle lovers wave, dressed in red suit (13)
HEARTBREAKERS : One of the red suits in a pack of cards surrounds a type of ocean wave.

8d     A success for the King — he is OK and jocular, amazingly (9,4)
JAILHOUSE ROCK : An anagram (amazingly) of HE IS OK and JOCULAR.

14d     Cooked the marrow one’s found in the ground (9)
EARTHWORM : An anagram (cooked) of THE MARROW.

15d     Hand in notice about hole made by animal in navy’s flag (3,6)
RED ENSIGN : Hand in notice or leave employment surrounds a type of animal home.

17d     Mike and Robert record short online post (9)
MICROBLOG : The abbreviation for a microphone (mike), then a shortened form of Robert and a record or diary.

21d     Train heads for the east and comes home (5)
TEACH : The first letters (heads) of five words in the clue.

23d     Console wife after raising income (5)
WAGES : The reversal of a classic gaming console and W(ife).

24d     Part of that road going north is a major artery (5)
AORTA : A reverse lurker, hiding in the clue.

We loved the four long perimeter clues but our favourite has to be 8d because today is the anniversary of when the king left the building.

Quickie pun    soup    +    earn    +    over    =    supernova

89 comments on “DT 30380

  1. Nearly didn’t bother starting this one when I saw the references to the Asian PMs, but glad I did, it was a peach, absolutely brilliant!
    2 and 3d were very clever (only heard of the answer to 3d due to a type of jacket sold in the Joseph Turner catalogue) Great misdirection throughout, loved all four of the long clues framing the grid, especially 8d, best clue in yonks.
    Don’t know who set it but glad they did, extremely well done.
    Off to watch The Lionesses now, surely this one can’t be as tough as Colombia.

  2. What a super puzzle, had a nice fresh feel to it.
    Lots of potential podium contenders but I’ll go for 2&3d (what a super device) along with 20a.
    Thanks and congrats to the setter and to the Ks.

  3. Tricky in places but fairly clued. I liked the 2d/3d combo after initially thinking it was a repeated clue. Favourites include the thrilling supporters at 4d and the lovers dressed in red at 7d. My COTD is 20a because of its great surface.

    My thanks to the setter for a fun challenge. Thank you, 2Ks for the hints.

  4. Another great puzzle! Held up by 2d of all things till the penny dropped.
    If only they were all like yesterday’s and today’s?
    Many thanks to setter.

    1. Puzzles are always going to vary because we have a variety of setters, each with their own style. We should embrace and enjoy them all as the vast majority are of a very high standard.

  5. Completely agree – excellent puzzle! So many favourites but 20 and 22 across stand out for me! Thanks to Kiwis and setter

  6. I found it really hard t get into this puzzle. There was a lot of splendid misdirection and I had to scratch around to ger some checkers ao that I could giess a few answers and reverse engineer the parsing perseverance prevailed and I began to solve more clues as more checkers wenr in. For me, the best of the clues were themisdirectwd anagram at 8d ( my COTD), the cryptic definition at 27a and the lego clue at 7d. Thanks to the compiler and to the Kiwis for the hints (about time rhat snug lot missed out on a trophy!)

  7. Excellent crossword with many notable clues but with 8D the best by a country mile **/****.

  8. The last four or five took me as much time as the whole of the rest. I actually googled the rhyming slang for apples and pears (stairs if your interested) without realising the answer was staring me in the face! Having got 3d quite easily I really just couldn’t think of another one for 2d, then the penny dropped. Splendid puzzle so thanks to all. 1a my COTD

    1. Me too I was trying to think of a London landmark with stairs – could not get The Monument out of my head and my lovely grandad taking me up there and explaining the history.

  9. This had a really modern feel and was extremely enjoyable – thanks to our setter (Robyn?) and 2Ks.
    I really liked 12a, 8d and 15d but the highlight was the very neat 2/3d pair.

  10. This week from Sunday
    Has been harder than
    All good stuff.
    Loved today’s, expertly clued.
    eg 27a and 3 and 5d.
    Last in 27a, spent too long on thinking
    It was a London district until the proverbial
    Descended. A very loud Duh.
    Many thanks to the setter and the 2Kiwis.

  11. Going against the flow, I thought this was a competent Wednesday puzzle but lacked the sparkle of yesterday’s offering. Not to worry, as Stephen says, we should embrace them all. The only clue that raised a smile here was 4d.

    Thanks to our setter, Robyn presumably, and to our 2Ks for the review – I wonder which team you’re supporting today?

    1. Oh Jane – that just shows how different we all are and how each guzzle has it’s slot –
      I loved it!

  12. For me this was not amongst the most engaging enigmas but nevertheless a worthwhile exercise. 17d had to be but was new to me likewise console in 23d. SE last in mainly due to problem with 17d. No Fav. Thank you Mysteron and 2Kiwis.

  13. Lovely puzzle solved before the first brew had got cold, thanks to the Kiwis who I hope are supporting the Lionesses as they are playing the Matilda’s from over the ditch, thanks to the setter too
    A rather nice Toughie too from Donnybrook needed a second cup

  14. What a little cracker. A real delight to solve on this sunny morning, with a good clue mix and plenty of humour. 7d and 20a proved to be my favourites of many.

    Thanks and congratulations to our setter for a fine puzzle, and to the 2Ks.

  15. I came, I solved, I conquered. Great workout. Lovely assortment of clues. Compliments to the setter.

    1. Love your tweak to the classic quote, AO! I also, of course, love your name. Are you a Londoner?

      Another excellent crossword. So many good surfaces with some great GK thrown in to the mix. We are certainly being spoilt at the moment. I loved the 2d/3d comby and the rekrul in 24d was top notch.

      My podium is 11a, 3d with the winner being 8d.

      Many thanks to the 2 Ks and the compiler.


      1. Thanks Tom. I know London well, having lived there for many years. My moniker is, indeed, based on the old music hall song, made famous by Harry Champion.
        Another handle that I considered using was the Marie Lloyd-inspired Dilly Dally. 😏

        1. Nice name, Annie – but I am proud to say I am a real cockney by virtue of my mother being caught out within the sound of Bow Bells.

          1. Caught out, eh? Sounds like your mum must have been a cricketer then, Daisygirl! Was she bowled over by your dad?
            I bet they shared a bicycle built for two!

        2. What an excellent name Harry Champion is! I Wikied him and see that he was born William Crump. Why change a great name like Billy Crump?

          I am also a Londoner: my parents grew up in Plumstead but moved to Wimbledon where I was reared with five others.

          Madness ensued.

          Dilly-dally is a stonking verb as is shilly-shally and wishy-washy. There was clearly a thing going on at the time.

          Great fun.

          1. ‘Stonking’ is a great word. I don’t think I’ve ever stonked, but I’m certainly up for it!

              1. I hear that Settle is rather nice at this time of year. A good place from which to start exploring scenic Yorkshire.
                That would certainly get me well away from London.

                1. There is a great cheese shop just outside Settle on the A65 – highly recommended if in the area


                  Some cracking Wensleydale (if you like cheese Gromit!)

                    1. Putting a stop to this reckless repartee, I have a huge pile of old music hall music from the thirties , piano music I mean. I wonder if I should put it on eBay? DD 2 will just put it in the skip but I remember dimly from my childhood blind Uncle Reginald bashing out the music and my mother and her six sisters dancing and singing and the lustres on the mantelpiece shaking, Hitlers bombs falling – those were the days, my friend…… somebody must value this stuff, there are song sheets as well , with just the

                  1. Day Zee, I’m replying here as there’s no ‘reply’ button below your splendid post.

                    1. Love ‘reckless repartee’
                    2. DD2?
                    3. Seven sisters???? They missed a trick not setting up a touring company called ”Oily Cart”, doing the stage version of ‘Seven Brides for Seven Brothers’.

                    Bless her beautiful hide…


                    1. Dirty Daughter number two. Don’t ask. And why I don’t have a reply button is beyond me. I respond to most of my buttons when they are pressed.

                    2. You can’t stop yourself, DD2! Are you Joan Sims or Barbara Windsor in disguise?

                      When the shop steward in ”Carry on At Your Convenience” said to the staff….’It’s all about time and motion”, Joan Sims replied….”If you’ve got the time, I’ve got the motion.”

                      Oh, the joy.

  16. Bit of an american theme today, last in was the King, and the stew.
    Favourite was 27a followed by 10a. Agree with the 2K,s ***/****, really enjoyed the puzzle and as Young Salopian says -a little cracker.

  17. It seemed to take ages for the penny to drop on quite a few of theses clues but it was very pleasant head scratching. I needed all the checkers before 1a revealed itself and, though I knew the answer, I didn’t see the lurker at 25a at all. I should know better by now! Favourite today has to be 20a for the LOL moment when that coin shattered the air. I liked all four peripheral answers as well as 2/3d. Thanks to ? Robyn for the absolute pleasure and the 2Kiwis for the parsing of 23d. I had forgotten that particular console.

    1. Ah, the console. Never seen one, though now I think of it the word seems familiar. Definitely needed the 2Ks for that one, so thanks to them and to the setter for a lovely guzzle.

  18. I am inclined to agree with Jane. A decent enough puzzle for a Wednesday but, assuming it is by Robyn, not as sparkling as he has provided. 2.5*/2.5*

    The only smile generator – 27a.

    Thanks to Robyn and the 2Kiwis.

  19. Although this week so far has been so busy that I have not joined the conversation , the puzzles have been really enjoyable. Particularly liked this morning’s offering. 8d. Was fun and great misdirection. It really adds to the experience to visit this site and I thank the setters and the team that give the hints in a kindly way that doesn’t put one down.

  20. 2*/4* for us – and thoroughly enjoyable.
    COTD = 27A
    Our only quibble was 15D.
    Navy to us implies Royal Navy who do not have this as their flag.
    It’s the Merchant Navy that do.
    Bit pedantic obviously but having been a yottie there’s a big difference.
    Thanks to the setter and the 2 Kiwis.
    Hope you enjoyed the Lionesses everyone.

  21. Well, I enjoyed this. Pretty light fare but elegantly so. Showing my ignorance but I’m surprised no one else baulked at sc for namely. Shamingly, I’ve never come across this abbreviation before. And I read Latin! But that’s what the BRB’s for. Thanks to the setter – and the 2Ks, of course.

    1. I never had the chance to learn latin during my education so I find it extremely frustrating when this type of general knowledge is required. Noting it is latin in the clue as is done for other languages that evolved from latin would at least give me a chance. Otherwise I really enjoyed this crossword especially 22a, 7d and 8d.

      1. Latin is much overrated – you really didn’t miss out. I wouldn’t wish Livy on anyone and it didn’t even help me today!

        1. I find I cannot unlearn the various declensions in Latin.
          They were drilled into me when young.

          1. Amo, amas, Amat, Amati’s, amatis, amant. Miss Hamer in the brown crepe with the large bosom would be proud of me 75 years on!

    2. Elgar and his crossword alter egos use Sc regularly so I keep it in mind when reading any clue with namely in it

    3. You weren’t alone with the Latin ALP – I just assumed it meant what it did & couldn’t be bothered/forgot to check afterwards.

      1. “I just assumed it meant what it did & couldn’t be bothered” 🤣🤣 The hearty battle cry of bungers everywhere!

        I hardly gave it a thought: “Oh it must mean so-called, there we are then.” 😁🙄

          1. Where I grew up, “sic transit gloria mundi” would’ve meant your colleague Gloria threw up in the bus after she drank too much at the weekend 😁😁

    4. I looked in the BRB app and you have to use “sc.” to find the latin entry for namely. Probably due to my unfamiliarity with the app.

      Never seen this use of sc before. As with Huntsman, I forgot to go back to check. Seeing this thread sent me to the BRB app.

      1. You’re absolutely right. I’ve got the app too and it’s buried under sc. not sc – whereas in Collins it popped up straightaway. One of the many reasons I prefer Collins to Chambers. But the latter is, of course, the setters’ go-to, so needs must. They seem a tad sniffy about Collins. I don’t really know why. In any case, I prefer Agent B’s definition = so-called. I’ll never forget it now!

  22. Another Wednesday puzzle that really doesn’t float my boat. Convoluted and difficult to parse, some answers that have me shaking my head. I suppose this another setter where I just don’t get onto their wavelength.


    Favourites that made sense to me were 1a, 11a, 27a, 8d & 14d — with winner… 27a

    Thanks to setter (Robyn??) and the 2K’s

  23. I really enjoyed this.
    Being a birder and a former rugby player, I enjoyed 11a, but my favourite was probably the 2d/3d combo.
    LOI 8d, which fell into place once I got my mind off chess!
    Thank you setter and the Kiwis.

  24. Well, we are a diverse lot are we not? Just as well, something for all. I thought all the ‘downs’ were excellent from the Asian leaders to the fickle lover. Many thanks to the setter and to the 2 K’s. I don’t follow football at all, but gather we have won a match? People seem excited so I m pleased for them! I am feeling quite chuffed as I completed yesterdays toughie at about 3am over a cup of hot chocolate and a digestive biscuit- my go-to sleeping pill. I really was a very happy bunny 🐰🥰

    1. I’ve replied to your comment in Annie Oldiron’s post (no 15) about your mother being one of seven sisters (!) but it’s above it as there’s no reply button under yours.

  25. Top notch for me. Reckon it’s a Robyn production & another in a long line of excellent guzzles. The 2&3d combo take the top spots in my book with plenty of ticks elsewhere
    Thanks to the setter & to the 2Ks

  26. A clever crossword with many good clues but very unhappy with 1a. Since when have body parts and processes been mechanisms? AI will soon be replacing people’s jobs including professionals and you can be sure that the leisure activities promised in the past to make days without work more enjoyable will not be available for the majority of the people.

    It’s time to find old Enoch and start smashing the computers and robots who will reduce our lives to boredom and servitude.

  27. I was delighted to complete this unaided, last in was 2d. A few mondayish clues helped to get me started and then I just ground away at the rest till completion. Just got to drop my car off for its mot/ service then it will be beer o clock😊. Thanks to all.

  28. Everything seemed to be going quite well and then it all went wrong (to put it politely).
    There were quite a lot of things that I just didn’t know – biometric, microblog, gaming console . . .
    That’ll do I think.
    I liked all the long answers round the outside and my favourite was 11a.
    Thanks whoever set today’s crossword and also to the 2K’s.

  29. Thanks to the setter and 2Ks. Enjoyable crossword not too hard but for me it had lots of enjoyable clues and answers. Made a change.

  30. With the American bit I really wanted “dumpsterdiver” for 5d but of course it wasn’t.
    Good for the Lionesses beating the Matilda’s! Do the Spanish girls have a nickname?
    Like others I was looking for a London stair for 27a which became my COTD

  31. Lots of fun and enjoyment, some tricky ones which took time. The 2d/3d combo was clever and took a while to sort, 27a was my favourite once the penny dropped.

    Well done to the Lionesses!

    Many thanks to the setter and to the 2 kiwis.

  32. 2* time but liked this puzzle a lot
    21,23,27 held me up
    8d clever but once I saw the four letter second part Penny just dropped

  33. Wow😳 a hat trick of clever solvable puzzles and the Lionesses in in the World Cup Final 🏆 😃 Favourites 16 & 26 across 2, 6 and 8 down Thanks to the 2 x Ks and to the Compiler

  34. Morning all.
    As others have mentioned we also, on reading 2d and 3d, thought there might be a gremlin in the works and then it turned out to be a further bit of amusing cleverness from the setter.
    We really appreciated so much about this puzzle and it was a real pleasure to put together the hints and tips.

  35. 3/5. Absolute cracker of a puzzle which little on the first pass but well worth the second attempt. My favourites were 20a and 2&3d. Thanks to the setter and the 2Ks.

  36. Quite a challenge today, which was very satisfying to solve unaided, even if 5d was a bung-in.

    LOI was 8d. Had thought of just about every type of king until the penny dropped.

    Thanks to all.

  37. Nicely challenging puzzle for a Wednesday requiring a fair amount of mental agility as well as some GK. My favourite clue had to be 11a – just love that creature! LOI was 1a with a loud clunk as the penny dropped. Many thanks to the setter and the 2Ks – I guess you’re happy with the women’s football result today!

  38. Good evening
    Made it in the end! An enjoyable solve; I must admit a few clues had me chewing my pen, which does my teeth no good seeing as it’s a Parker with a metal top half, but never mind…
    I had to look up “sc” meaning “namely”; I knew of the Latin “videlicet”, shortened to “viz”, but couldn’t fit it into the answer.
    Special mensh for the excellent misdirection in 23d – crikey! – but top marks to COTD 8d.
    Thanks to our compiler and to 2Ks

  39. DNF for me. Had to leave after a quick breakfast for a doctor’s appointment, and chores were still waiting when I got back. Just had one more quick look and realized I just don’t have enough head scratching time left today. Needed help for 10a, but it is my COTD, very funny. I was so sure the second word in 27a was stair I couldn’t finish it. Enjoyed those I finished and lamented those I didn’t. OMG, it’s Thursday tomorrow. Never mind, I’ve still got Chalicea’s Toughie waiting on the table. Thanks anyway to the setter and to 2Kiwis. Guess you are not too fond of those across the ditch? 😊

  40. I needed a night’s sleep to finish the last few. Didn’t know where the sc came from. Not sure Miss Reddish taught me that before they threw me out of Latin in Lower V. I too knew apples and pears was rhyming slang but failed to spot the obvious after I’d been through all of London. That and 8d were my last in but have to be in my top favourites. Thanks Setter and 2Ks.

  41. I may of missed it in the earlier comments, but did no-one else twig August 16 is the
    anniversary of the 8d King’s death?

  42. A very belated comment. I gave up this puzzle after solving 3 clues, having decided it was way way beyond me. I have now read the hints and looked at the answers and have decided it is unfortunately way beyond my poor brain. I will now read the comments and see if anyone else has the same limited brainpower as myself. Thanks to all.

  43. I didn’t enjoy this one. Some clues were just plain obscure such as 2d, it’s a bit of a stretch for that answer to be appropriate, also 1A, it really isn’t a mechanism for dealing with ‘complaints’, ‘threats’ would be a more appropriate a clue.

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