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Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 30369

Hints and Tips by crypticsue

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BD Rating – Difficulty **/***Enjoyment ***

Were it not for the brevity and style of the clues, you might wonder whether this crossword was the work of Ray T as it has none of his other usual ‘trademarks’

Please leave a comment telling us what you thought


1a    Stop believer welcoming Sabbath’s beginning (6)
DESIST A believer in a god ‘welcoming’ the letter at the beginning of Sabbath

4a    Alone and single, blasted about love (8)
ISOLATED A single and a way of saying verbally attacked (blasted) which goes ‘about’ the letter representing love

9a    Inspector Lewis’s first piece (6)
MORSEL A fictional Detective Inspector and the first letter of Lewis

10a    Cold containers for bubbly (8)
CHAMPERS The abbreviation for Cold and some baskets (containers)

12a    Train routes are endlessly modified (8)
EUROSTAR An anagram (modified) of ROUTES ARe (‘endlessly’ telling you to omit the E)

13a    Detailed question for foreign agent (6)
CONSUL De-tail or remove the final letter from a verb meaning to ask advice about (question)

15a    Moralising knocked insomniacs out (13)

18a    Britain undoes changes being ungovernable (13)

22a    Cheats and turns cards over (6)
TWISTS An informal way of saying cheats or turns the cards face upwards in a game of pontoon

24a    Cheap curry commonly contains fluff (8)
RUBBISHY The first part of the way a Cockney would refer to a curry into which is inserted (contains) an informal term for a mistake (fluff) [You will either remember this mistake fondly from reading Anthony Buckeridge’s Jennings Books when you were a child, or you’ll be one of many people saying “I’ve never heard of  …”]

26a    Flirtation, losing head, leads to marriage (8)
ALLIANCE Remove the ‘head’ from a flirtation

27a    Custom corset occasionally revealing top (6)
UTMOST The occasional letters of cUsToM cOrSeT

28a    Free handouts could be grand! (8)
THOUSAND An anagram (free) of HANDOUTS

29a    Credit with hidden charge produces depression (6)
CRATER The abbreviation for credit into which is inserted (with hidden) a charge


1d    Check barrier on compound (6)
DAMPEN A barrier to stop water and a compound for animals

2d    Drink flows covering hangover’s last shocks (9)
SURPRISES A verb meaning to drink and a synonym for flows ‘covering’ the last letter of hangoveR

3d    Walks over to find relative (7)
STEPSON Short walks and a preposition meaning over

5d    London district, accordingly, little house (4)
SOHO An adverb meaning accordingly and an abbreviated (little) house

6d    Caricature of crackpot capturing a politician (7)
LAMPOON An informal crackpot ‘capturing’ A (from the clue) and an abbreviated politician

7d    Weeping reportedly leads to rows (5)
TIERS A homophone (reportedly) of some weeping

8d    Make public record on waste (8)
DISCLOSE A record and a verb meaning to waste

11d    Grazing land is beyond river (7)
PASTURE A preposition meaning beyond and a river in North Yorkshire

14d    Wicked rogue promises to pay (7)
IMPIOUS A rogue and some promises to pay

16d    Some lovers, hooting, go too far (9)
OVERSHOOT Hidden in the second and third words of the clue

17d    Policeman’s patch seeing trouble (8)
DISTRACT An abbreviated policeman, don’t forget the S! and a patch of land

19d    Crosses made from stake with beams (7)
BETRAYS A stake or wager and some beams

20d    Authority of a bishop getting grip (7)
ARBITER A (from the clue) and the abbreviation for a bishop into which is inserted (getting) a verb meaning to get a firm hold of (grip)

21d    Boy’s terrified catching sea creature (6)
OYSTER ‘Caught’ in the first two words of the clue

23d    Cold house with one good lavatory (5)
IGLOO The letter representing one, the abbreviation for Good and an informal name for a lavatory

25d    Initially study closely and narrowly (4)
SCAN The initial letters of Study Closely And Narrowly

Quick Crossword Pun:  TUNE + EASIER = TUNISIA

107 comments on “DT 30369

  1. What a great guzzle! We are being spoiled this week. Plenty to like from the Master of Brevity and I have ticks all over the paper along with anagram workings. A busy puzzle with too many good clues to pick out a favourite but I will go for Inspector Lewis at 9a, which I thought was a very good clue referering as it did to his boss.

    My thanks to Ray T for the cruciverbal fun and to CS for the hints, which I will now read.

    Off to lunch in Myddle today.

  2. Tried to log into the Big Dave page yesterday at about 5pm, but got the message ‘Account Suspended’, tried about half an hour later and it was all fine again.
    Mailed the webmaster to ask why this was, but got no reply.
    Did anyone else experience this?

            1. The “account suspended” notice was so final looking, I panicked and contacted CS. It had no need to be so brutal and could have told us to try again later. Thank goodness we’re back on track.

                1. It would seem that only three of you remembered my email address yesterday so it wasn’t a problem

              1. Me too, I even checked my previous posts to see if anything I’d said could possibly have warranted a ban!

    1. Got the same here. My husband used to be in IT and said that “suspended” message usually means your access has been blocked. Oh dear. It first happened about 4pm, 11am in UK. Later I was relieved to be able to open and post my comment. But then by 6pm it was back to suspended again. Like you, I mailed the webmaster but have yet to receive a reply. I did reluctantly bother CS with this, but the message persisted. I did try deleting my cache but that did not fix it. Decided to give up trying until today. Oh happy day, it is working again 😊.

    2. Sorry about that. We knew the site would likely go offline for a bit during the move, but I was expecting that during that period browsers would just say that they couldn’t reach the page. By the time we knew about the scary “account suspended” message it was too late to do anything, including creating a webmaster email account, because we also did not have access to the site.

      The move was a one-time thing, and we expect smooth sailing from this point forward.

      1. Thanks for explaining this Mr K, I realise that it was an oversight now, but it was quite disturbing at the time, regards, TC

  3. No clue over eight words yesterday, nothing over six today! Maybe printing ink inflation is biting at DT towers 🤔

    1. The DT is saving on black printing ink judging by the paucity of journalistic input (perhaps due to the “Silly Season” and holidays etc.) and replacement with ridiculously oversized photographs.

      1. Judging from some of the column topics and the terrible English, even in headlines, one does wonder what is going on at the DT. Used to be you would be hard pressed to find a mistake.

  4. Good puzzle and just, for me, one unknown word 14d, which I deduced but had to look up. Two massive anagrams and saw through one but needed a lot of the other’s checkers. Dexter has a lot to answer for.9a.
    Thanks to setter.

    1. Colin’s “Dexterity” at crosswords and Endeavours love of them is a gift to setters

  5. That was pretty challenging and bit of a slog . It didn’t feel at all like Ray T, more like Proximal. The NW corner was so difficult to get into, I thought I would have to call it a day but dogged persistence won out. I enjoyed the anagrams at 28a and 15a but my COTD was the lurker at23d. Thanks to the compiler, sorry the guzzle wasn’t quite my cup of tea. Thanks to CS for the hints, which I’ll now read as I couldn’t understand some of the parsing.

  6. Thursday lite.
    Apart from some very
    Difficult clues eg 13 and 24a.
    Big smile at the latter, she had
    A lovely voice.
    Most enjoyable puzzle, so
    Thanks very much RayT and CS.

  7. As I had expected, I found today’s offering a tad more puzzling than those of the previous days this week. It was no less enjoyable however and it was a good challenge.

    A couple of thirteen letter anagrams gave a good start but things slowed down when I reached the NW corner.

    Favourites included 9a, the cheap curry of 24a and 21d which took me a while to spot.

    There was an example of a 16d at Sumburgh in Shetland in 1979 with 17 fatalities. It was subsequently not the place for nervous flier to go as it took some time for the wreckage to be removed from the sea at the end of the runway.

    Good to see one of crossword-land’s three or four rivers flowing along again!

    Thanks to the setter and crypticsue

  8. An enoyable puzzle – thanks to Ray T and CS.
    I particularly liked 9a, 19d and 23d with my favourite being 24a.

  9. A little bit of Inspector Lewis’s boss was my first one in and the rest flowed smoothly. Thanks to CS and RayT – nice Jennings reference too

  10. I thought three stars for enjoyment was a bit mean. My own view was that this was an excellent example of RT’s craft and yet was still solver-friendly enough to be accessible for most, with 9a, 24a and 6d being my top three.

    Thanks to Mr T for the fun and to CS.

  11. My bag of a crossword today – good fun across the grid. I thought this was at the easier end of the recent Thursday puzzle spectrum. Not sure whether the definition in the clue really works for the answer in 17d but that’s my only (minor) quibble. Loved 9a – my COTD. LOI 13a. All the while listening to Lloyd Cole’s latest album – yes, he’s still going – which is growing on me by the day. Thanks to the setter (I assume Ray T), thanks to CS for the hints and thanks to Lloyd for the musical accompaniment.

  12. Lovely puzzle but I don’t get the normal Ray T vibe?. 20d, 16d and 24a amongst the many favourites today.
    2.5* / 4*
    Thanks to setter and CS.

  13. While, as CS says, other than clue brevity, Ray T’s usual ‘trademarks’ are absent, the clue brevity extends to the single word clues in the Quickie so Ray T it is – 2.5*/4*

    Standout favourite – 9a – does mention of Kath’s favourite policeman count as a Ray T ‘trademark’?

    Thanks to Ray T and CS.

    Now, all we need to ’round out’ an excellent week of cruciverbalism is a pro_imal or proXXXXimal tomorrow!

  14. Always a pleasure to slide into the comfortable familiarity of one of this setter’s compilations, sets me up for the rest of the day with a smile on my face. So many ticks on my paper and think the widest smiles came from 9a along with 6&11d.

    Devotions as ever to Mr T and thanks to CS for the review.

  15. This was vey enjoyable.

    So many good, succinct surfaces with a bit of ‘oo matron’ levity to add to the brevity. 24a will never pass my lips unless it’s, to use the cryptic vernacular, detailed.

    Not easy to pick a top three as there are so many candidates but I’ll go with 1d, 28a (great anagram) and 16d (wey hey!).

    Many thanks to the compiler and CS.


  16. I found this trickier than the more enjoyable offerings earlier this week. The definition dial seemed to have moved a click or two towards the unusual or strained end. For example, I’ve never heard of the synonym for ‘fluff’ in 24a, which is marked as ‘dated’ in my Oxford Dictionary. Whilst to seek an opinion is in the nature of a question, I wouldn’t use the relevant word in 13a in the same way. The word ‘double’ would normally be included in respect of 19d in every day speech. 17d seemed an awkward fit. So while I imagine the denizens of crosswordland will be saying that it is all fair, I feel that this puzzle is trickier for those of us in the outer circles of the land. Favourite was probably 27a. Thanks for the hints Cryptic Sue, especially for the info on 24a. 3*/2*.

    1. Ray T is renowned (or is it notorious?) for using obscure/rarely used definitions and synonyms.

      1. 👍🏻 Thanks Jose. Thinking about it, even the informal name for a mistake given in the clue for 24a is niche, because it is limited to a performing error (in my Chambers dictionary anyway). So there’s a word for a particular type of error that is supposed to be a synonym for a word meaning error generally that appears not to have been used (outside some books I’ve never heard of) in living memory! The answer to 24a is in my Chambers dictionary, but I would shave one letter off if I was to use it in the sense envisaged here. Just as well I’d heard of the rhyming slang for curry, or this clue would have been a total washout.

  17. So far so good. This week’s offerings including today’s have been a gentle assortment. Presumably 24a parses via cockney rhyming slang and Ms. Murray? Favs 13a and 22a. Thank you Mysteron and CS.

  18. 2*/5*. For me, this was RayT as his briefest and best with my top picks being 9a, 24a, 28a, 8d, 14d & 23d.

    Many thanks to RayT and special thanks to CS for a lovely reminder of the Jennings books which I adored as a child.

    P.S. I will be away for a few days, and back posting again sometime next week. Be good!

    1. One of my favourite Jennings stories is the one where his aunt (?) wrote to tell him she had sent him a birthday present but he couldn’t read her writing and so went off to the station to collect what he understood to be a ‘mac hine’ – the machine turned out to be a bicycle :D

      1. One thing that sticks in my memory of the Jennings’ stories is the wonderfully convoluted schoolboy logic as to why his classmate Temple’s nickname was Bod. This runs something like as follows. His name was Charles A.Temple so he was originally called Cat. This got changed to Dog, lengthened to Dogsbody, and finally abbreviated to Bod!

          1. Just popped in to look at the comments, and thought would mention my favourite bit from Jennings. It’s in the first book, where Mr Wilkins is cross with Jennings (for a change), and tells him to go and stick his head under a tap. Wilkins is infuriated when Jennings returns, completely dry, and asks him why his hair isn’t wet. Jennings replies “You didn’t tell me to turn the tap on, sir”.

            It’s an old joke, but still makes me laugh out loud when I think of it, about 45 years after first reading the book.

      1. Never heard of the Jennings books let alone some obscure piece of slang. Apart from that a very nice puzzle.
        Off to find a pub in Newfoundland that serves local beer and good grub.
        Thx to all

  19. My last one in was 1d; I was convinced that compound had a chemical relevance.
    Other than that temporary glitch, everything flowed very nicely.
    Many thanks to RayT, and to CS.

  20. Gosh, this was tough going today – a v long brekfast. Like others slow going on the NW corner. Needed CS’s help (and Google) with 24a for the Murray connection, despite having more Indian cookbooks than any other! (Left the country too long ago?)
    Lots of lovely clues, but no fave.
    Many thanks to RayT and to CS for 24a and the overtime spent on the pics!

  21. For a RayT puzzle this week, I found it in his mid range of difficulty with the NE the last to fall. Overall a decent puzzle with no obscurities or odd-ball GK answers. No sweetheart nor queen this week either … that’s rather odd?

    For me 2*/4.5*

    Favourites include 9a, 12a, 11d, 14d, 19d & 23d — with winner 9a (and 19a a close follow up)

    Thanks to RayT and CS for hints/blog

  22. An option to hide/unhide the pictures would be helpful. If you come here to get help with just one clue it can spoil it if there are loads of pictures that are difficult not to see.

    1. Welcome to the blog, Amy.
      If you come here to get help with just one clue then presumably you already have the answers to the clues to which the pictures relate.

      1. True if you come looking for one remaining clue, not if you just want a hint to unlock some part of the puzzle that you want to complete yourself.

        To Amy: the DanWord site will typically give you just the answer if you type the clue in there.

    2. I love the pictures simply because looking at too many hints dilutes my pleasure in solving. So, on a bad day when I am not getting very far, I limit myself to just the picture clues. I also think the pictures (particularly those from Mr K) really add something on the blog, and I am disappointed on the rare days when there are none. But I can see where if you want to read just one hint and happen to see one of the pictures it might be aggravating. I often find however that the picture clues turn out to be for the clues I have already solved on my own.

  23. I found this very user/ friendly until I suddenly came to a grinding halt. I too was looking for a chemical compound and felt sure the policeman’s patch was beat. The west was the dodgy area, no doubt due to the rumblings and machinations going on with Merusa’s bloviating friend. Many thanks to the indefatigable CS (I do hope you have extra vitamins B,C & D and take care of your health) and to the delightful RayT. Favourite – 15a but I also liked the Right Reverend Bishop at 20d and 9a natch.

    1. No not alone with beat, not sure I see why trouble.
      Yes Daisy, we wait with bated breath. The prosecutor was head honcho at The Hague, so he’s no boy scout.

  24. An excellent, as always, Thursday puzzle from Ray T. About average difficully for one of his, with great clues providing an enjoyable solve. I have ticked several but will pick 9a because of (for me but maybe not some others) the surface misdirection. 3*/4.5*.

  25. Four consecutive unaided solves, including a RayT – that doesn’t happen often (to me, at least).

    Many thanks to RayT and CS

  26. I often struggle with Mr. T’s puzzles and print off the Thursday ‘back pager’ with a degree of trepidation when I clock the trademark short clues and only single word answers!
    Today, however, everything went in (relatively) smoothly and the only real hold up was the NW corner. I needed CS’s help post hoc to understand the parsing mid 24a and as usual to check I hadn’t made any mistakes.
    One swallow etc, but chuffed to bits.
    Thanks to RayT and thank you CS for all your work across the site!

  27. Horrible puzzle. I finished the one people found hard last week but there were four clues I couldn’t solve today. I don’t see the parse of arbiter although I guessed it. Riter is not a grip! Never heard of a ruby being a curry and twists was too much of a stumper as I don’t play that game. Took too long to get the ones I managed. Horrible nasty NOT guzzle!

    1. Welcome to the blog, Clare A.

      Please take note of item number 4 of the site etiquette which states:
      Do leave comments about what you like or dislike about a puzzle, but please try to justify any negative comments – comments such as “rubbish puzzle” will be deleted.

    2. Welcome, Clare A. “Ruby” meaning curry is Cockney rhyming slang – “Ruby Murray = Curry”. :grin:

    3. Welcome, Clare. You haven’t parsed 29d correctly – “riter” doesn’t come into it. CS’s H&T above is perfectly fine, but I’ll give a more simplified explanation – which I do occasionally. The clue definition is Authority. The word-play: A (from the clue) and the abbreviation for a bishop (RR – Right Reverend). [Giving ARR]. Into which is inserted (getting) a 4-letter word meaning grip (BITE). Giving the answer AR(BITE)R.

  28. Challenging guzzle for sure. Toast and orange juice without bits were a distant memory by the time I finished this one.

    Some posts you may have missed while the site was suspended:
    ‘For me, and I stress for me…’ (Senf)
    ‘This is a terrible crossword. I don’t know why I get up in the morning’ (Brian)
    ‘Terence! What do you think about boiled eggs?’ (Daisy)
    ‘Daisy! I’m a vegan!’ (Terence)
    ‘Great Guzzle!’ (Chriscross)
    ‘I’m watching you. Always watching…’ (PC Security anag)
    ‘Couldn’t finish it but thanks to the setter for the challenge!’ (Steve Cowling)
    ‘Solved this one while putting out for the win at Sunningdale’ (Huntsman)

    Thanks to the setter and PC Security (anag)

    1. What has happened to Brian? I’m getting seriously worried that he has deserted us in our hour of need! Please come back Brian, all is forgiven, and we miss you every day.

        1. Steve, I don’t remember him popping in this week. I’ll check when I’ve completed my gyrations in the pool.

        2. Did he? I don’t remember seeing his name yesterday in the 2Ks’ blog. I’ve had another look and still can’t see him – but perhaps I need to go to Specsavers? :unsure:

            1. Ah! I see. Steve Cowling seems to have a rather strange idea of “yesterday”. :wink:

              1. We are in a different time zone in Shropshire. There is a portal just outside Oswestry.

                1. Best kept to ourselves, YS. 🤫
                  I’m hoping The Mythical will appear through it. 😎

  29. Is this really Thursday? What a change in a week, I’m floating on cloud nine! It was a DNF, but not as disaster. I needed help with the anagram at 18a, just couldn’t get enough checkers. To my lasting shame, I got the wrong answer at 9a, sorry Kath, now I’ve seen the answer I think it’s one of the best clues. I needed to go for a hint to 24a to get me going again in the SE, not sure I understand the answer. Lots to like, I think fave is 6d.
    Thanks RayT, if not you then whomsoever offered this, and to CS for explaining so much. You are kept so busy, how do you manage it all, you deserve a huge bouquet from us.

  30. Enjoyed this one apart from needing the hint for confirmation of 24a (my kids know the term in a wholly different context 🤣)

    Loved 12a, 28a and 10a. 13a last one in after spending ages not spotting the necessary phantom hyphen, very sneaky!

    🍻🍻 to setter and hinter

  31. After a sleepless night, I did not do well with this challenge today. But I really don’t care, I am just so relieved to be able to access the site again. After I posted my comment yesterday when I thought all was fixed, away it went again. But very glad to be here today. Thanks to the setter, perhaps it will all make sense to me later after a nap, and to CrypticSue.

  32. I found this very tricky and needed assistance but when the answers were arrived at so many were very clever 😳 *****/**** Favourites: 26a, 3d, 19d & 20d. Just relieved to have the blog back😃 Thanks to CS and to Ray T 🤔

  33. Very challenging but enjoyable as always for a RayT offering – the ‘cheap’ solution eventually arrived without my understanding why, so thank you CS for explaining it.

  34. 17d…I don’t think it is ‘seeing trouble’ but ‘trouble’ as in “Can I trouble you for the time?” which is a distraction perhaps ?

    24a .. perhaps an alternative parse is that’bish’ is an old slightly derogatory term for a woman. As is ‘she’s a nice bit of fluff’

    1. I agree about 17d. I took “trouble” alone to be the clue definition – which is a direct synonym of distract. I assumed that “seeing” is merely a link word.

  35. 24a .. perhaps an alternative parse is that ‘bish’ is an old slightly derogatory term for a woman. As is ‘she’s a nice bit of fluff’

  36. It didn’t really feel like a Ray T crossword today – no normal trademarks – never mind and just get on with it!
    My favourite clue was 9a – of course!
    The two very long anagrams 15a and 18a were very difficult ones – I don’t very often have trouble with them but these I did.
    I liked 12 and 13a (eventually) and 3 and 6d.
    Thanks to Ray T for the crossword and to CS for yet another “batch” of hints.

    Off to Pembrokeshire in the morning with our Elder Lamb, her partner and our 6 year old grandson.
    Please could we wish for some slightly better weather . . .

    1. I wish I could wriggle my nose and order good weather for you, perhaps Steve Cowling could say a few incantations. Have a good time!

    2. Hope you all have a great time, and hopefully some better weather. I understand it’s been very cold and wet over there. But I guess that is better than the extreme heat and fires in other parts of Europe. Enjoy Wales!

  37. 9a lovely clue for the xword purist
    19d not easy but I guessed the letters from beams

  38. Clearly a RayT, but not as witty as usual. I found this at least **** for difficulty, charades of stretched definitions and synonyms for example not being much fun for me so ** there.

  39. Typical tricky Thursday for me, I always struggle to get on wavelength with RayT and so I expected to find this one harder than the last couple. It’s a me thing and must be something to do with the brevity and also not always spotting the definition I am looking for. I do not know how he consistently can write such short clues. I got there in the end with a quick look at the hints for a couple but was not certain about the parsing of several of them, particularly 24a. 9a was clever and my favourite but there were plenty of others to like.

    Many thanks to Ray T for the challenge and CS for the hints and to all who got the website successfully transferred and have kept it running for us all to enjoy.

  40. At the more straightforward end of Rayt’s puzzles although I didn’t initially identify him as the setter and I can’t say I rattled through it. The usual quality and excellent were there. Obviously 9a was the standout clue. Thanks to Rayt and CS.

  41. A dnf due to 1d, 8d, 9a and 13a either needing the hints or the answer.

    All of the above clues were fine, it was me.

    Thanks to all.

  42. Struggled a bit today, mainly in rhe NW corner.

    The answer to 24A was also in yesterday’s Quick Crossword. Until yesterday, I don’t rhink I had ever seen it in a crossword before.

  43. Solved early doors this morning & from what I remember very enjoyable. Last in was 9a & unlike everyone else the penny didn’t drop immediately but once it did it bagged top spot. Very enjoyable
    Thanks to Ray T & to CS

  44. 3*/4* ….
    liked 23D “Cold house with one good lavatory (5)” … amongst others.

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