DT 30268

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1. Hard work sums this puzzle up and I have tto give up with th the NW corner unfiinshed as my family are about to arrive for lunch and i haven’t a scooby doo. The other three qquarters of the puzzle is ok but some clues aretoo convoluted to be really enjoyable .113a was a nice anagram, however and 22a a nice lego clue. Thanks to Mr K for the hints and to the compiler.

2. Very enjoyable and entertaining, and as ever with this setter a lot of clever and cryptic misdirection.
   I was held up in the NW briefly but once I’d got 1d it was all over.
   I could have ticked well over half the grid but I’ll restrict myself to the ones that produced the biggest smiles and they are 22&26a (where I had the “spinning” as a reversal) plus 3 (brilliant),7&19d. Great stuff.
   Many thanks to Zandio and Mr K, particularly for the information on Donald “Duck” Dunn in 12a.

3. 5*/4*. I found this really tough, particularly in the NW corner but I did enjoy the battle. I thought we were heading for a pangram or perhaps an X-less pangram but in the end, as well as no X, there was also no J to be seen.

   I thought 3d was excellent, and it gets my vote as favourite along with a special mention for the Quickie pun.

   I saw Donald “Duck” Dunn in the 90s in Eric Clapton’s band at the Royal Albert Hall. He was a magnificent bassist.

   Many thanks to the setter and to Mr K.

4. Most enjoyable puzzle.
   Only assistance required was to check if a certain song was in a certain singer’s repertoire.
   Fortunately it was.
   Took some time to gain a foothold, two lurkers and a long anagram greatly assisted.
   Loved 7d for its wit and humour.
   Thanks Zandio and Mr K

5. Impossible puzzle for me today had to use hints and cheats to finish. Isn’t 26a a reversal? Take off b and t to leave LATAN then reverse it.

   Thanks to setter although it was too hard for a beginner like me but hopefully I’ll be able to remember some of the tricks for another grid another day.

   1. PT, i agree with you about 26a.

      1. That’s how I read it as well.

      2. Me too

   2. I agree on 26a being a reversal rather than Mr K’s anagram but he did say that he was not in a puzzling mood today.

   3. I love your alias, PT!

      Well done for not being too disheartened about today’s crossie.

      Friday puts everyone through the wringer as can be evidenced with the regulars’ ratings.

   4. Hi, PT. I agree with StephenL, you, and the commenters below that 26a is better parsed as a reversal. I’ve amended the hint.

6. Ahhh it’s from Zandio. That explains the a) difficulty and b) the mastery (once you have followed the instructions correctly). Thank you Mr K for unravelling 11a.

7. Hard work, but got there in the end. Plenty to enjoy, but one or two gripes.
   11a – the wording to me suggests that VG “holds” the anagram.
   5a and 6d – the surface reads don’t really work for me.
   Some great clues, though. Ticks to 1a, 3d, 7d and 16d.
   Thank you setter and Mr K and Happy Easter to you all.

   1. Shabbo…I initially thought the same re 11a but if you read it as the abbreviation for Very and then the abbreviation for Good being “within the possession” of the anagram the clue works fine, in fact it’s excellent.

8. This was hard work indeed but also hugely rewarding in the end, even though I was pushed well into **** time when I filled the grid with 26a and 20d in one fell, happy swoop. I spent more time parsing, I think, than I did solving, and ultimately decided on 3d (COTD), 22a, & 19d (LOL!) as the podium stars, but I have ticks all over the place. Whew! Thanks to Mr K and Zandio. ****/*****

   1. When I was a little girl we used to have a cleaning lady called Mrs Fell – and we called her Swoopy. Your words brought it back to me, I haven’t thought of her for over half a century!

9. Such a challenging entertainment. I had to lean on Mr K’s tip for 23d until the traditional pennydrop of a synonym for capital. 14a wins anagram of the week award and 18a cotd. Many thanks to our brilliant setter and blogger

10. I was hoping for a pro_imal or a proXXXXimal today; it came close for the former but ‘J’ joined ‘X’ in being AWOL. With an excellent puzzle from Silvanus yesterday, undoubtedly Zandio is our setter today – ***/***.

    No standout favourites but smiles for 1a, 27a, and 3d.

    Thanks to Zandio and Mr K.

11. A proper Friday-level puzzle – thanks to Zandio and Mr K.
    I liked 22a, 7d and 19d but the top clue for me was the excellent 3d.

12. If anyone is looking for a friendly crossword, Cephas set today’s FT

13. Well, even in my Covid riddled state I managed this unaided. Mr M has now tested positive so we make a right pair although he doesn’t seem to have any symptoms at all whereas I am really battling. Its nice to stay in bed reading though. Enjoyed this puzzle at lot with 3d being my COTD when it finally dawned on me having said the second word twice several times. Thanks to the setter and Mr K.

    1. I sympathise Manders,. We both had it too. It was rhe other way round though . I had a brief period of fever, then recovered and Mr CC is stillpoorly 6 weeks on. Go figure as our American friends say. Get Well Soon 💐

    2. That’s jiggered your Easter then Manders, I’m so sorry. we’ve got lovely sunshine , can you sit out and get some sea air?

       1. Overcast here DG with a chilly wind, not for sitting outside!

          1. Oh dear- it is glorious here. Got doors and windows open!

14. Hard work but enjoyable. 3D COTD by some margin ***/****

15. I really enjoyed this once I got started and was pleased it was not as hard as some recent Fridays have been. 22a was my favourite which I initially tried to do as an anagram which produced some very odd and not spikey words! I also liked 3d and 11a. I thought 26a was a reverse lurker too. I needed the hints to unravel a couple of the parsings.

    Beautiful sunny day here in the chilterns so just off to do some weeding!

    Happy Easter to everyone on here and thank you for all the entertainment and fun I get from this blog.

    Many thanks to the setter and to Mr K (at least we can choose to not solve a puzzle if we don’t feel in the mood….you can’t and that must be particular stressful.

16. Tough, but thoroughly enjoyable. Last two in for me were 23d which then made 28a obvious. I was too focussed on defect being a fault.

17. Quite liked 27a and enjoyed the music but that was the height of it for me.
    Nice to see the sun shining, hope everyone enjoys the Easter break.

    Thanks to Zandio and to Mr K for the review.

18. I think the double espresso, got the old grey matter fired up for this Friday challenge. Stared at grid for a while but the easy anagram at 5d, got me started and the rest fell into place working clockwise. I admit I biffed a few answers before working out the wordplay but thoroughly enjoyed the challenge.

    3.5*/4*

    Fav 3d LOI 12a.

    Thanks to setter and Mr K.

19. I fairly sailed through this but spent an inordinate amount of time on 16d. I always forget that ‘liquidation’ is an anagrind. I have made a note to myself that when I see a mad comby like this _ p _ a_ k_ t that it is probably a compound word.

    The brilliant 3d is my COTD, topped off nicely with the outstanding pic that Mr K plumped for. Love it.

    The word holiday in ‘Bank Holiday’ implies a relaxing day but that is never the case with the ‘Zan Master’

    3*/4*

20. I must have been on the setter’s wavelength today, as I worked through this without any significant problem.
    Favourite clue – 3d.

    Many thanks to the setter and Mr K.

21. Hello, compiler here. Thanks very much for taking the trouble to solve, analyse and discuss.
    Can I add a musical item?
    Bob Seger wrote and sang ‘Get Out Of Denver’ in Chuck Berry style in 1974:

    But then Eddie and the Hot Rods did it in Dr Feelgood style in 1976 (both of those great bands coming from my home town of Canvey Island):

    Have a good Easter weekend.

    1. Thanks for a great guzzle Zandio thought I did struggle with 23d. 3d was laugh out loud and 22a very good. Happy Easter. 🐣

    2. Thanks for popping in Zandio and thanks, as ever, for your display of parsing mastery.

       Trying to create a smooth surface for a lurker is always a challenge for a compiler as I spot them immediately 9 out of 10 times. Your effort today gets 9 out of 10 from me.

       23d was great fun. I went down the ‘Guess a capital’ route and, having exhausted Europe and Africa, it hit me like a rake hits Tom when chasing Jerry. One nil to you.

       You definitely have your own style which is right up my strasse.

    3. Hi, Zandio. Thanks for the puzzle, thanks for popping in, and thanks for the pair of videos above..

    4. Thank you for the challenge, Zandio and have a very Happy Easter. 🐇

22. I found the NW corner solvable but very hard to parse, Zandio has a very twisted and brilliant mind!!

23. I rather enjoyed that once I got my 11a in gear. I do sympathise with MrK though as I know only too well the feeling of having to plough through a crossword when not quite in order.
    Thanks to Zandio for the exercise and hope that Sunday’s Toughie ( a Robyn I believe) is as friendly.
    Thanks too to Mr K for the info about Donald Duck Dunn – a name that cropped up in a recent post about great bass players

24. 3d definitely the cream of the crop this morning, quite superb. The whole puzzle was certainly at the tougher end of the spectrum, as befits a Friday, but what an entertaining and rewarding puzzle it was.

    Top marks to Zandio for this little gem, and thanks to Mr K for his review.

25. Tough but enjoyable, I thought and I needed the hints for a few but it is Friday. The NW and SE corners held out the longest and it was in these areas I needed help. 22a was my LOI and it was a bung in because I could not parse it until I saw the hints. Then, of course, it made sense. Ticks go to the very clever 12a and the PDM of 3d but my COTD is 7d because of the great surface and the huge coin that dropped when I sussed it out.

    Thank you, Zandio for the fun challenge. I don’t mind being beaten on a Friday so long as I can have a good stab at the Tuzzle and you certainly provided that. Thank you, Mr. K for the helpful hints, which I needed on occasion.

    Gave the grass (moss?) its first mowing today. It looks like a badly shorn sheep.

    1. Ours looks like a ploughed field thanks to the jackdaws going for the chafer grubs.

       1. The grass at the front looks like that, DG so I guess that it the reason.

          1. I wondered what they were after. Every spring, a pair of jackdaws come on to my front lawn – pecking away and leave it covered in clumps of uprooted grass and moss. They only do it for 2 or 3 days. They’ve not been yet this time, maybe because I haven’t mowed it thus far.

             1. We also get tawny mining bees but I suppose they aerate the soil.

                1. I did my good deed for the day, or tried to, when I found a big bumble bee on the kitchen floor. I tried to give it sugar water but the poor thing couldn’t take it. ☹️

                   1. Talking of bees, has anyone seen any honeybees? It is rather worrying that they are few and far between in our neck of the woods.

                2. Magpies I mean, not jackdaws. I guess they’re all after the same things.

                   1. Its the starlings looking forrgrubs in my front lawn. It’s a disaster area.

26. Another back page toughie with hold ups in the NW and SE quadrants,
    Last in was 2d which I did not parse correctly- thanks to Mr K for the because reversal explanation!
    Going for a *****/****.spotted the reverse lurker in a readthrough a while after completion..
    Favourite was 3d-top draw, liked 12a
    Most enjoyable and a good start to the holiday.

27. 10a & 8d were both really well hidden amongst a great set of clues. Thanks, Zandio.

    No adverse comments yet?

    Waiting for someone to say that “there is a Toughie available today, so why such a difficult back-pager?”

    But, it’s Elgar! Does anyone still try his Toughies?

    1. It’s a shame we have to keep saying that. And pointless anyway, as it always falls on deaf ears. Far fewer people comment on the Toughie, so the audience is clearly bigger for the regular Cryptic, but that doesn’t seem to count for much.

       1. So far, only 4 people have commented on the Toughie. A select few indeed!

          1. BL and I have been crying in the wilderness for a long time, how nice to have a convert with us!

             1. I’ve felt like you for ages. Crying in the wilderness just about describes it!

    2. Sorry but does it matter? Do we all really want puzzles every day that can be solved with ease? I think I would rapidly lose interest in cryptics if I could solve them all before finishing my toast. I have never solved a clue in a Tuzzle by Elgar but I look at them in the hope I may catch on to his wavelength. Cryptic crosswords should be a challenge and it is great that the challenge varies in difficulty. When I first joined this blog, I never even bothered with the Toughie. Now, I have solved a couple. What is a difficult puzzle today may not be in time.

       I’ll shut up now! 🤣🤣🤣

       1. ‘ear ‘ear.

       2. I don’t want something that is R&W. A nice tussle is enjoyable, but that enjoyment rapidly diminishes when one has to start looking at most of the hints, and/or going for electronic help. My enjoyment has always stemmed from answers I am able to fill in on my own. A handful of hints is fine, which is why I limit myself to the picture hints. Not because of the pictures, but it is a way of controlling the amount of help I’m happy to use. I too have managed the Toughie on rare occasions, but they are definitely aimed above my pay grade. Your comments are always fair and extremely polite. More than a few of us really want to understand why the regular cryptic is offered at a high level of difficulty when the clever lads and lassies can move on to the Toughie when needing a stiffer challenge.

          1. I understand what you are saying, BL. It can be daunting to struggle with a puzzle when everyone else believes it to be a doddle. I have felt that many times myself. However, the back pager gets harder as the week progresses (ok, not this week when it seemed as if Mr. Lancaster threw the puzzles in the air) but does that progression not lead to some of us lesser solvers having a go at the Toughie as we work through the various layers of difficulty of the back pager? (Sorry- long sentence).

             My point is, don’t dismiss the tough puzzles or Tuzzles as I call them. Try them, see how far you get and check the hints from our wonderful bloggers. Thursday and Friday back pagers used to be beyond me but I stuck with them, checked the hints to see how the parsing and wordplay worked and I now find I am solving more and more puzzles from the likes of Zandio.

28. I think I have already said it – except for thanks to MrK for the tiptoe tabby. Friends coming in to play canasta at 4, we’ll play one game then have some dinner, salmon, and then play another. Such fun! A little alcohol on the way no doubt. Upside is, I’ve had a good whisk round with a duster.

29. We’ve certainly had value for money today. I loved the challenge of this superbly clued puzzle. The variety of clues and the great surface reads of most made for a very enjoyable solve. Mr Mhids came into his own with 12a – I wouldn’t have had a scoobie. Jostling for podium space today are 14a, 18a, 3d, 7d and 19d. Top spot goes to 22a. Thanks to Zandio for the absolute pleasure and Mr K for help with parsing one or two.

30. Another tricky puzzle for Friday. Struggled to start with this one. Wasn’t feeling as good as I could have in tackling this one. On top of it all is that I always have trouble with Zandio puzzles.
    Bit of a stomach upset on Thursday evening as i did this.
    Last area to complete was SE

    2.5*/3* today

    Favourites include 1a, 12a, 18a, 7d & 24d with winner 1a

    Thanks to Zandio & Mr K

31. A Good Friday puzzle!

    Thanks, Zandio and Mr K.

32. I found this one tough, but was delighted to manage to finish it unaided….unusual for me on a Friday.
    I did need some help with the parsings, though, so thanks to Mr K as well as to the setter.

    Nice and sunny up here in Angus today, but distinctly chilly .

    1. So funny when you say you are in Angus – I wear the tartan !

33. Another cracking Friday puzzle from Z. Great clues and a toughish challenge giving an enjoyable solve. Fav: 22a. 4*/4.5*.

    *I parsed 26a as a reversal.

    *I assumed 12a was O (Duck, nil) + a reversal (backed) of sit (TIS) – “what he did on Dock of the Bay” (having never heard of the bassist DDD). That’s why I couldn’t fathom out why ‘Duck’ wasn’t just Duck.

34. Phew. The NW corner and 14A were my holdout and I needed to reveal letters to kickstart a couple of answers. Favorite clue by far was 12A. Thanks to Zandio and Mr. K.

35. For me no fun to be had in this rather dodgy exercise. West went in OK but East was a different story. Sort of thank you Zandio and thanks MrK for helping me to avoid a DNF.
    👎!

36. Words fail me. I understand that Fridays are typically a tougher day, but I will never fathom why, when there is a Toughie on offer for for cerebrally gifted, we ordinary solvers are left out in the cold. Doubly disappointing, as I did a half way decent job with the last Zandio. My hats off to you Mr K, and those above who were able to solve unaided. For all those out there who don’t comment, or just starting to attempt these crosswords, don’t give up, just come back another day when there might actually be a cryptic that the majority of us can solve, rather than the minority. Some days they can be really enjoyable, but not today, IMHO.

    1. Here, here, BusyLizzie! I wonder if the puzzles editor has it in for the ‘ordinary’ cruciverbalist, it so often seems like that on Fridays: two puzzles for the experts, nothing for the rest of us. Still, it has been a lovely day and so I have had lots of more entertaining things to while away the time.

       1. I’m in your camp, but I just wanted to be ornery and poke fun at the intelligentsia.

37. Enjoyable challenge today with some superb clues. Favourite was the brilliant 3d just edging out 12a. Thanks to Zandio and Mr. K.

38. Piece of cake! Like Jose, cracking puzzle, wish Friday’s were always like this, or all the week. Fave 3d, chin, chin, cinzano!
    Thanks to Zandio and to Mr. K, off to try the Toughie now to test my brain.

    1. 🙂

    2. Methinks Merusa is being ironic! 😏

39. After a week away I also had a slow puzzles day where my 11a needed a few cobwebs being blown away. The NW caused me some delays, especially 1d and 2d – act is such a vague word to define! 3d made me smile, 25a was a super lego but my COTD goes to 26a, indecipherable until it was obvious! ***/****

    Thanks to Zandio and MrK

40. Just to keep stanXYZ happy at 27 😬 I have to say it “ should be a toughie not a back pager” I needed far too much help! 😳 *****/*** Favourites 9 & 12a and 8d. Thanks to Mr K for his much needed help and to Zandio 😃 Happy Easter to everyone 🤞the 🌞 keeps smiling!

41. Being Friday I expected a nul point first read through, but to my surprise I actually was able to complete about half, all fairly evenly spread, but like most, less in NW and SE. But then I was truly stuck and even BRB didn’t help. 22a I actually got the right answer, but then convinced myself it was an anagram and so couldn’t match the letters. Eventually gave up and referred to the hints (many thanks for the lifesaver, Mr K), the first hint I approached was 11a, and then the rest of that corner fell into place. I was held up with 14a which I somehow had convinced myself was equidistance, but realising that a Q for a facial feature was not on, eventually came round to the anagram. Another peek at the hints and the rest fell into place. COTD for me must be 12a as the clue brought so many lovely memories and I’ve been singing the song ever since, much to DH’s annoyance. Many thanks to Zandio for a good and challenging puzzle and once again, to MrK for the hints, without which it would have been a DNF.

42. Feeling very stupid but just cannot get into this at all
    I’ll settle with a drink and the hints and see what I’m missing

43. Good grief.

    1. You make me laugh! Good grief, indeed.

    2. Good grief indeed!

44. Tough but fair.
    Great construction all round.
    Favourite 21a.
    Thanks to Zandio and to Mr K for the review.

45. I must have been on the Z wavelength today as I didn’t find this as tough as usual on a Friday.
    Faves 1a, 9a and 18a , but lots of great clues and misdirection
    Thanks to the man from Canvey Island and to Mr K for slogging through it so diligently

46. After 10 years of lurking, raising my head above the parapet. This was a fine struggle that lasted two pints and a bowl of peanuts in the garden in glorious Easter sunshine. Hats off to the setter and the hints writer (and to all the setters and hinters over the last 10 years!)

    1. Welcome to the blog, Hawkhurst Hank.
       Now that you’ve de-lurked I hope that you’ll become a regular commenter.

       1. Thanks Gaza, I’ll do my best. 😀

    2. A warm welcome from me as well, Hawkhurst Hank. I agree with Gazza. Now you have taken the plunge please return on a regular basis.

47. What lovely puzzle! Definitely on Zandio’s wavelength today. I’d forgotten that Mr Sitting on the dock left us so prematurely, along with too many others. (Including Glenn Miller who vanished on my birthday)
    I spent the most time today looking for my Sitting singer’s LP, to no avail. Must have given it to the kids or left it with my brother 50 years ago…
    Pity Mr K couldn’t tell me what happened to it, but many thanks to him all the same for the info about “Duck”, and for his parsing, which I luckily didn’t need (Though I’m in the ‘tata’ camp). And thanks to Zandio too for the puzzle and for dropping by with his music!

48. Good evening
    Last Friday, I was forced to give up the unequal struggle with The Mind Of Zandio; this Friday, owing mainly to a reduced workload (you’ll have all seen the pictures of Nuneham Viaduct in Oxfordshire falling into the Thames; consequently I’m working a train from Oxford to Worcester and back instead of Paddington to Worcester and back ) I was able to devote most of the afternoon to today’s crozzie, and got there, finally! I think today’s Crikey goes to 5a.
    Thank you Zandio and Mr K

49. 4/2. Didn’t really get much enjoyment from this and I don’t like when I have bung-ins, which were correct, but I can’t parse them. Thanks to Mr K for explaining these. Thanks also to the setter.

50. Having mostly slept through Good Friday, I just awoke to some good Friday news on my doorstep: my first two Irish Country Doctor volumes have arrived, along with Donna Leon’s latest Venetian thriller. And while on the subject of books, may I strongly recommend Eleanor Catton’s new novel. Birnam Wood, which I finished late last night (some of you might remember her from the Booker-winning The Luminaries of a decade or so ago) and which is no walk in the park but well worth your diligence and perseverance. I couldn’t put it down once the climaxes started piing up, and suddenly it was OVER!

    The weather promises to turn Easterish here, which in Charleston almost always means a chilly Easter Sunday (I have no idea what that betokens), which will be most welcome after our June-in-April heat this week. So let me wish all of you a very Happy Easter.

51. Every bit as tough if not tougher than this week’s Tues – Thurs Toughies in my view. Often struggle to get on Zandio’s wavelength & today no exception though can’t claim it got my undivided attention as the golf is on. 16d last in & very slow to twig the anagram indicator & also made a bit of a horlicks of the NW having initially put behold in for 1d. Some excellent clues – 3d my fav with ticks for 1,9,22&26a along with 7,15,16,19&20d.
    Thanks to Zandio & Mr K whose review I’ll read anon.

    1. Completely missed the Donald Dunn context at 12a. Didn’t know he’d played bass on the record but ought to have twigged as he’s featured on so many great recordings. Clue now added to my ticks.

52. Today is Good Friday not impossible crossword day. I am now 82 and have done the crossword since I was a teenager. How pious are the people who finished it today, although I do not see many..Pleaae adjust your compilers for the majority,not brains of Britain. Jacquie Broadway

    1. Well said Jacquie 👍 (from a fellow 82 year old

53. I don’t often cope that well with late starts on cryptic crossword puzzles, but today has been an extremely busy day and so I didn’t get to look at todays puzzle until well past 8.30 this evening, however, most of it went in quite quickly, either side of watching “Would I Lie to You”. I reckoned this a real belter and superbly clued. Seeing that there are 52 comments prior to me typing this, I haven’t yet got around to reading any of the other solver’s thoughts, except those of Jacquie Broadway’s, just before me as I type. Pious or not and given that I am only a couple of years her junior, I can honestly say that I have no complaint with a puzzle that IMHO needed only slightly more thought in solving than any other of the back pagers have done this week – just a question of wavelength I suppose. I’m struggling to pick a favourite, but if pushed for a decision 5a, 21a & 22a would be high on my list, but there are a lot more that would be worthy of addition. My thanks to both our setter and Mr K. A superb puzzle indeed.

54. This 89 year old joins the 82 year olds above. When will the editor understand that a toughie should be on the toughie page and the backpager on the back page. I have been solving DT cryptics for many many years, and the sort of treatment we get tends to put me off carrying on with this hopefully enjoyable brain exercise.
    Thanks to all and happy Easter

55. We were busy on Good Friday, but when I saw this was Zandio, I made sure to go back and do it — not because I’m “pious”, “cerebrally gifted”, or one of the “intelligentsia” (it’s rare for me to be able to solve a Monday Campbell crossword without assistance), but because I find Zandio’s puzzles happen to suit my brain, both in being (largely) solvable and in the humour in the clues providing great enjoyment.

    It’s of course completely fair enough that many solvers have other preferences. But it’s getting tedious encountering so many comments that are effectively insulting anybody who likes today’s puzzle or who dares to solve it. This is a friendly site, with an etiquette guide, yet reading the above comments has taken my mood from the joy of having solved a fun puzzle right down. Please can we all accept each others’ preferences and leave out the attacks and insults?

    12a was my favourite, even before Mr K’s information on the bassist (thank you so much!) which made it even better. The 10a and 8d lurkers are amazing — and special thank you to Zandio for providing 2 musical renditions of a song I was previously unaware of. Do keep expanding my musical knowledge like this! 1a, another musical one, was my other candidate for favourite.

    The 5d anagram just jumped out at me as soon as I read the clue. I realize that isn’t notable for most of you, but I really struggle with anagrams, and I think that’s now 2 that I’ve just cold-solved like that in a month!

    Happy Easter to all reading this.

    1. Happy Easter!

    2. Can I please point out that I am not calling any of the commentariat pious or super intelligent, merely trying to explain to the editors that there is a place for the backpager on the back page, and a place for the toughie elsewhere. It’s as simple as that.

56. 4*/3*…
    liked 7D “Jersey’s assembly in progress? (8)”

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