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ST 3164 (Hints)

Sunday Telegraph Cryptic No 3164 (Hints)

Hints and tips by Senf

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A very good Sunday morning from Winnipeg where some of us, including me, are head scratching and it’s not because of a challenging crossword.  An organisation that goes under the moniker of ‘Economic Development Winnipeg’ has come up with a new slogan/tag line/whatchamacallit for the city – Winnipeg: Made from what’s real. :scratch:

For me, after last week’s problems induced by imbibing vino collapso, I have returned to the amber nectar from north of the border which seems to have worked a lot better – another anagram fest from Dada, eight altogether (with three partials), two lurkers (one reversed), and no homophones – all in a symmetric 32 clues; with 16 hints ‘sprinkled’ throughout the grid you should be able to get the checkers to enable the solving of the unhinted clues.

Candidates for favourite – 13a, 21a, 23a (well I had to didn’t I), 27a, 20d.

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, a number of the more difficult clues have been selected and hints provided for them.

Don’t forget to follow BD’s instructions in RED at the bottom of the hints!

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct as “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow:


1a Papa in novel tries wit (6)
The letter represented phonetically by Papa inserted into (in) an anagram (novel) of TRIES.

5a Famous songwriter somewhere in Germany (6)
A double definition – for the second, and more specifically, the ‘somewhere’ is a city.

11a French food associate fed to pet (9)
A synonym of associate inserted into (fed to) the pet that ‘owns’ the persons who think that they own the pet – just ask Terence.

13a Number nine, peg between two poles (7)
The Roman numeral for nine and the type of peg utilised by golfers all placed between two poles (of the earth).

19a Wild gorilla snatching at reptile (9)
An anagram (wild) of GORILLA containing (snatching) AT from the clue.

21a Slowing down, top dog in the underwear industry? (7)
Written (3,4) this could indicate an important male person (top dog) in the underwear industry especially for a particular item of ladies’ underwear.

25a To a certain extent, viscount ain’t educated — simple! (9)
The ‘forward’ lurker (to a certain extent) found in three words in the clue – personally, I found the reversed lurker easier to spot.

28a Amount of time, very little (6)
A double definition – each one has a different pronunciation.


2d Odd number observed, divided by five (5)
A synonym of observed containing (divided by) the Roman numeral for five.

5d Revelation, beautiful woman (9)
A double definition – the first would probably be considered a sensational, rather than a run-of-the-mill, revelation.

8d Porter regularly going over lovely, small building (6)
Three alternate letters (regularly) selected from porter placed before (going over – it’s a Down clue) an abbreviated form of a synonym of lovely.

9d Malodorous coloured liquid filling malodorous place (6)
A coloured liquid (used in a writing implement) inserted into (filling) a specific type of animal pen that might smell somewhat and thus itself be malodorous.

16d Endless fruit and a nut in a stew for primate (5-4)
A (citrus) fruit with the last letter removed (endless) and an anagram (in a stew) of A NUT.

20d Appearing more flushed, running up and down just the same? (6)
Start with a term that could describe a person who is flushed (in appearance) and then obtain the answer by adding the same word reversed (running up and down just the same).

23d Encoding device way above top of mountain (5)
A synonym of way (as in method?) placed before (above) the first letter (top) of Mountain.

24d A bit isolated (5)
A from the clue and a synonym of bit.

Quick Crossword Pun:


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Perhaps, this is almost another what were we thinking.  The Wurzels were formed in 1966 as backing group for singer/songwriter Adge Cutler with a unique genre of Scrumpy and Western.  After Adge Cutler died in a car accident in 1974, The Wurzels continued with their unique style of music.  Their most successful record, a parody of Brand New Key, written and sung by American Folk Singer Melanie, started two weeks at number one on this day in 1976:

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  1. Very enjoyable without being top notch Dada, with just the last two or three needing a little teasing out.
    Top three for me were 11&21a plus 5d. Good stuff.
    Many thanks to Dada and Senf for the fun in the South Devon sun.

  2. 1*/3*. This seemed very straightforward for a Dada puzzle but it was good fun with 21a my favourite.

    Many thanks to Dada and to Senf. Keep it real in Winnipeg! :wink:

  3. A terrific Sunday offering for Sunday from Dada. I can’t say it was a steady solve as there were several hurdles to cross for my tired grey cells. 5d, for example, held me up for ages. Once again, I had ticks all over the paper including 5a, 12a and 3d. My favourite and COTD is 13a because it landed with a huge “doh”.

    Many thanks to Dada for the Sunday fun work out. Thanks to Senf for the hints. Enjoy living in a real city, Senf! :scratch:

    Now that I have finished the crossword I’ll have to go and cut the grass.

  4. Maybe not stellar Dada but enjoyable enough, with 21a, 13a, 11a, & 5d outshining the rest, with a very interesting use of ‘Machiavellian’ in 3d. Thanks to Senf and Dada. 1* / 3*

    A very good Sunday Toughie too.

  5. No problems to report although I invariably have to talk myself into the 4d type of constructions.
    Top three were 13,21 & 23a (for its nod to our blogger).

    Thanks to Dada and to Senf for the hints. You must be relieved to learn that your city is real and not a figment of someone’s imagination!
    Trying to forget about combine harvesters – don’t want to be stuck with them all day……….

  6. An enjoyable puzzle with the usual Dada quirks. There were a lot of good anagrams, great misdirection, a great lurker and a good geographical clue. COTD for me was the wily 13a,with 11a, 12a and 25a as runners up and, of course 18d, which made me wince in rexollection. Thanks to Dada for another fine SPP and to Senf for the hints.

  7. Super puzzle, lots of fun finishing this one. My two favs were 13a and 9d. Not sure if I am getting to grips with Dada or if he has been kind in the last few weeks.
    Thx to all

  8. Our regular Sunday setter in benign mood this morning with a simple yet delightful puzzle to entertain us. Like others, 21a was my top pick, with an honourable mention to 13a.

    Many thanks to Dada and Senf.

  9. S. Considering that Canada famously produces a huge amount of timber, perhaps a better city slogan would be – Winnipeg: Made from what’s deal.

        1. And, then you had to have a go at explaining it . . .

          But, most new houses and many other new buildings are still timber-framed.

          1. Thereby reinforcing that, although it was merely a casual play on words, it does contain some intrinsic truth about the history of Canada’s economic develpomnent …

            The explanation was given in response to the inexplicable “Ouch” – as if some sort of slur might have been intended.

            1. Sorry, Jose. I did not mean you had intended a slur. Absolutely not. My “ouch” was for the groan worthiness of “deal”. :grin:

              1. No probs, but thanks for explaining. I suppose, with hindsight, your Ouch :-) instead of Ouch! did rather indicate that. :-)

  10. Excellent puzzle from Dada with a few scratching head and doh clues. I liked 13ac, 21ac and 5dn. But I cannot for the life of me parse 22dn!

    Thanks to Dada and Senf.

    1. Concentrate your mind and do some lateral thinking on the last three words of 22d for one of Dada’s frequent cluing devices.

  11. Regarding Senf’s hint for 11a – tell me about it! My toast and orange juice with no bits in it was substantially delayed this morning. I couldn’t move because Lola decided to settle on my lap. There is an unspoken rule when xxxxx owns you – xxxxxxx sitting on one’s lap may not be disturbed.
    Lola moved into this house as a guest – now she runs the place.

    Lovely crossword – I too am grateful for the nudge-nudge hint for the parsing of 22d which left me pondering until I saw Steve Cowling’s helpful tip. Please do not deposit Steve on the naughty step.

    I thought today’s Quickie was bonkers in the most delicious way. Great fun to solve.

    Thanks to Dada and The Man From Manitoba.

    1. Oh yes – inadvertently, I left a hint for 11a. Apologies – but may I watch the Test Match from the naughty step?

    2. The Quickie almost sent me bonkers – it took me ages and several attempts with starting again and again – husband is now trying to do it . . . we’ll see . . . .

      1. I have to admit that it is not unusual for me to only solve enough of the Quickie to get the pun. Today’s was definitely challenging and needed a lot more than the two across clues that made up the pun.

    3. I too very much enjoyed the Quickie which was more cryptic than usual so needed rather more than a quick thought.

  12. Another week with a very doable and gentle Dada puzzle. 1*/5* for me today. Nowt quirky here.
    10a and 21a gave me a good laugh. Really liked them.
    Podium contenders today are 11a, 13a, 2d, 9d & 15d with winner 2d … clever clue … but then again there were many clever clues in this one.
    Dada operates in a class of his own.
    Thoroughly enjoyable solve and considering no blog/hints when I solved all the more satisfying

    Thanks to Dada and Senf

  13. Straightforward but enjoyable stuff with 13a being the best of the bunch. Thanks to Dada and Senf.

  14. Many thanks Dada for this gentle Sunday workout. Like RC, I wondered about the use of Machiavellian but it didn’t spoil the fun. COTD 13a for me.
    I remember bumping into at least half of The Wurzels in the Holly Bush, Bridgeyate in the late Seventies so thanks for the memories Senf.

  15. I sat in the sun and completed this nice puzzle and then came to check on the parsing of one or two clues. I thought 13a was very clever and 21a made me smile. Thanks to Dada and to Senf. I spotted your letter Steve, that is outrageous! I’ve given up buying presents for my grandsons, I just transfer some money with instructions to buy something they really want! Not quite the right spirit but they seem delighted.

  16. Thanks Dada for another Sunday cracker, thoroughly enjoyed 👍
    As ever, many thanks to Senf for a great blog ‘n hints.

  17. Took some time to get started.
    Eventually from the SE to a satisfying completion in a solid *** time.
    And ***** for enjoyment.
    But delayed by 11a until the proverbial penny and less so by the clever 6d.
    Big smile at 21a.
    Thought 9d the top prize clue.
    Many thanks, Dada and Senf.

  18. A very pleasant and enjoyable Dada puzzle today. Always a bonus when I can finish one of his. But I did have trouble with 1a, although filling in the right word. I could not find any reference in my on line thesaurus to the answer equaling wit. Also not sure 4d fits the definition either. But all very doable, a plus in my book and a great end to the week. Thanks to Dada and to Senf, especially for doing double duty this weekend. Canuckle in 2😊

    1. Well done with Canuckle – it took me 3 but I don’t always attempt it due to N. American spellings – alright for you BL. Have just come across ‘hellowordl’ which is straightforward but can addictively go on and on – not great for insomnia!

  19. Rather over-anagrammed which always makes life easier if not somewhat less enjoyably challenging. W succumbed first. 11a French food is rather all-embracing and I would whinge about 18d burst and also the artless 25a or does a simple synonym come into it? Stupidly 13a peg escaped me. Thank you Dada and Senf.

  20. Done this morning as busy day yesterday. Quick solve although it totally convinced about 22d even after the comments. Penny dropped for parsing of 27a after the solve. Favourites 13 and 21a and 5 and 18d. Thanks Dada and Senf.

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