DT 28393

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28393

Hints and tips by 2Kiwis

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BD Rating – Difficulty **Enjoyment ****

 

Kia ora from Aotearoa.
Rain, rain and more rain! About a week ago a tropical cyclone hit Queensland in Australia and caused considerable damage and much flooding. The remnants of that weather system have now moved across the Tasman and we are getting day after day of drenching rain with some strong winds at times. Although the river in front of our place is running high with the floodgates upstream now open, we are unaffected and hunkering down indoors.
Jay has given us just the right puzzle for a rainy day.
Please leave a comment telling us how you got on.

Across

1a     Thoughtless charge following popular Conservative spin (13)
INCONSIDERATE : String together the two letter word for popular, the three letter abbreviation for Conservative, a word meaning spin or prejudice, and a word for a charge.

9a     Highest level of pay corporation rejected (3,6)
TOP DRAWER : This one you have to read in reverse order (rejected). A six letter word for pay or recompense and the corporation that a middle-aged beer drinker might have.

10a     Ready after engineers work on renewal (5)
REFIT : Army engineers, and then ready or able.

11a     One way of broadcasting a source of danger in port (5)
RADIO : ‘A’ from the clue and the first letter of danger are inside a South American port.

12a     What 15 do, we hear, in ceremony (4)
RITE : A homophone of the activity of the answer to 15 across.

13a     Island prisoner becomes object of veneration (4)
ICON : The one letter abbreviation for island and then a word for a prisoner.

15a     Authors showing attributes initially overlooked (7)
SCRIBES : Find a synonym of attributes when it is used as a verb, and remove the first letter.

17a     Break a saucer in pieces? (7)
CAESURA : An anagram (in pieces) of A SAUCER.

18a     Relation with a rarely empty store (7)
GRANARY : An elderly female relative, ‘A’ from the clue and then the first and last letters (empty) of rarely.

20a     Competent head of state assassinated (7)
SKILLED : The first letter (head) of state and assassinated or murdered.

21a     Exclude all inhabitants of home city (4)
OMIT : The two central letters (all inhabitants) of each of the last two words of the clue.

22a     Smile — spirit’s about right! (4)
GRIN : Mothers’ ruin contains the abbreviation for right.

23a     Nothing left to cover fire (5)
INGLE : A lurker hiding in the first two words of the clue.

26a     Degree of intensity in effort to sell (5)
PITCH : A double definition. An effort to sell is known as a sales *****.

27a     No parking for individual connected with joint (9)
ARTICULAR : Take a word meaning individual or distinctive and remove the abbreviation for parking from the front of it.

28a     Cleaner reprimands person in tears (6-7)
CARPET-SWEEPER : Reprimands or puts on the mat, and then someone who is crying.

Down

1d     Protesting sure changes those sharing special objectives (8,6)
INTEREST GROUPS : An anagram (changes) of PROTESTING SURE.

2d     Managed fish, eating gutted plaice (5)
COPED : Plaice is gutted by removing all of the inside letters, and what is left is inside another type of fish.

3d     Transport offered by limited circle within club (6,4)
NARROW BOAT : A word meaning limited or not broad, and then the circular letter is inside a club that a cricketer might use.

4d     Direction where nurses’ responsibilities lie? (7)
INWARDS : Split the answer 2,5 to find the places where nurses usually work.

5d     Reinvention of Cartier is unpredictable (7)
ERRATIC : An anagram (reinvention) of CARTIER.

6d     A wife getting lines wrong (4)
AWRY : ‘A’ from the clue, then the abbreviation for wife and railway lines.

7d     Left cafe excited about university producing the intended result (9)
EFFECTUAL : An anagram (excited) of LEFT CAFE contains the abbreviation for university.

8d    Leader of movement‘s regular support with regard to uprising (8-6)
STANDARD BEARER : A word meaning regular or customary, then one meaning support or carry, and finish with the reversal of the abbreviation meaning with regard to.

14d     Half of oxygen may produce such a shape (10)
SEMICIRCLE : The chemical symbol for oxygen when cut in half will produce this geometric figure.

16d     It is clear playing is natural (9)
REALISTIC : An anagram (playing) of IT IS CLEAR.

19d     For example, a wagon must reverse a certain distance (7)
YARDAGE : Another clue to be explained in reverse order. The abbreviation meaning for example, then ‘A’ from the clue and a horse-drawn freight wagon.

20d     Boys welcoming a thankyou for compositions (7)
SONATAS : Male offspring includes ‘A’ from the clue and the two letter informal thank you.|

24d     A depression mostly overcome by doctor’s lively dance (5)
GALOP : A general practitioner includes ‘A’ from the clue and a word for depression without its last letter.

25d     Vehicle fuelled by hydrogen is cleaner (4)
CHAR : A motor vehicle includes the chemical symbol for hydrogen.

We like the two backward clues today, 9a and 19d.

Quickie pun   quay    +    pan     +    iron    =    keep an eye on

56 Comments

  1. LetterboxRoy
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:07 am | Permalink | Reply

    Only 17a held me up, never heard of it. Otherwise nowt too tricky today. Like the simple 6d. We’ve seen 11a recently, I’m sure.
    Many thanks to setter and to 2Ks

    • Harport
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:47 am | Permalink | Reply

      ‘A’ Level French Lit in the 1950s brought 17a back to mind, thanks to Racine.. I knew that old bore would come in useful some day.

      • Michael
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:09 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Yes 17a was a new word to me too, my Anagram program failed to find it but my Wordsearch program came up with the goods – isn’t technology a wonderful thing!

        Very enjoyable puzzle today – I didn’t understand the wordplay for 24d but the blog put my mind at rest – thanks for that.

      • LetterboxRoy
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 4:40 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for that nugget of education, Harport – can’t say I like his style much!

    • Posted April 5, 2017 at 1:27 pm | Permalink | Reply

      17a new to us too!

    • Mr Kitty
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 9:15 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Re 11a:
      Mon 13 Mar 17 DT 28373 Send message to a daughter in port (5)
      Thu 23 Mar 17 DT 28382 Bare grip holding plug over wireless (5)

      • LetterboxRoy
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 9:25 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Thanks for looking, thought you might

  2. mcmillibar
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:26 am | Permalink | Reply

    Coffee pot was still warm at the end of this one. Clue that possessed the most awesomeness was 14d. **/***. Thank you to the setter and to NZ. Just off to celebrate the arrival of the new Tax Year.

  3. Scousegit
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:28 am | Permalink | Reply

    I needed the 2kiwis’ help with the SE corner and 17a was new to me. Clue of the day was 19d, beautifully clued. Thank you, Jay and our antipodean friends.

  4. Rabbit Dave
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:36 am | Permalink | Reply

    2*/4*. I agree with everything the 2Ks have written except to say that here in London this is the right puzzle for a sunny day. I would add 21a & 28a to the 2Ks’ selection of 9a & 19d as the picks of the bunch, with 21a taking my accolade of favourite.

    17a was a new word for me and 24d was my last one in.

    Many thanks to the three birds.

  5. Jaylegs
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:50 am | Permalink | Reply

    Nice sunny April day here in the east of England, at first I thought the crossword was a breeze until I arrived in the SE corner and of course 17a just to the north 😨 I got the answer to 14d after much deliberation but honestly how obscure can you get 😬 Ergo ***/*** Thanks as always to the 2xKs ( who appear to have inherited our Spring weather 😰) and thanks to Jay Favourites are 18 & 28a 😜

  6. jane
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:54 am | Permalink | Reply

    A dry but somewhat chilly day here – nice to stay in where it’s warm and solve the crosswords.
    Don’t think I’ve come across 17a before but it did ring a distant bell once the checkers were in place so maybe it was buried in the dark recesses of the grey matter.
    Like 2Ks, I enjoyed the two reversals but my podium places went to 21&28a plus 4&6d.

    Thanks to Jay for a fun puzzle and to the two sheltering Kiwis for their usual high standard of review.

    PS To judge by the lack of scribbles on my paper, the Micawber Toughie should be ‘do-able’ for many back-page solvers – don’t think it took me any longer than this one and it was quite a joy – I’ve ticked an inordinate number of answers!

    • Rabbit Dave
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:59 am | Permalink | Reply

      You are a nuisance, Jane. I’ve got lots of stuff I should be doing today, and now I shall have to do the Toughie first …

      • Rabbit Dave
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 1:49 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Mmm…

        That didn’t take long but was good fun. It’s non-tough but enjoyable Toughie week so far.

      • Hathersage John
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 3:45 pm | Permalink | Reply

        My hobby horse again – how I would love to have a go at a Toughie – had a reply from the DT suggesting I subscribe to the Puzzles page. I don’t see why I should be penalised ‘cos I buy the digital version of the paper on an annual sub. ( yes I know it’s cheaper, and you don’t get owt for nowt as they say over t’border uup ere.
        Anyway, I thoroughly enjoyed today’s easy one – thanks for the review Two Kiwis, and other amusing contributors.

    • Miffypops
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Caesura, iambic pentameter, Dylan Thomas, Phillip Larkin are all things my teachers failed to teach me about. Poorly schooled by poor schoolteachers.

      • Tstrummer
        Posted April 6, 2017 at 12:47 am | Permalink | Reply

        Ah, but you sing in your chains like the sea, even if they did f*** you up, your schoolteachers

        • Miffypops
          Posted April 6, 2017 at 1:07 am | Permalink | Reply

          Fern Hill. Why did nobody tell me about Fern Hill? Well their ignorance shines through. My “teachers” should hand back their salaries and pay back their pensions and just **** ***

          Ooh. Not the infant and junior school ones. They taught.

  7. pete
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:58 am | Permalink | Reply

    Quite tricky for me, although I managed to finish without any help, I did need the hints to understand how I got there. The cryptic for 14d and 24d were particularly difficult to work out, the penny only dropped with the aid of 2kiwis. Favourite was 28a. 3.5*/3* Many thanks to the setter and especially to 2kiwis.

  8. Expat Chris
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:58 am | Permalink | Reply

    My hold-up was 17A also. Altogether enjoyable, with 14D my favorite. Thanks Jay and the 2 Ks.

  9. Young Salopian
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:18 pm | Permalink | Reply

    After much head-scratching, 21a proved to be my COTD. Like many others, 17a was a new word, although very gettable from the wordplay, and 24d my last entry. I really enjoyed the whole puzzle, a delight from start to finish. I took a little too long finishing off, but that merely extended the enjoyment, so 2.5*/4* from me overall.

    Many thanks to Jay for a splendid workout and to the 2Ks for their review.

  10. Kath
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

    As usual my last four answers took ages.
    I never did get as far as understanding why 14d was what it had to be.
    I’ve never heard of 17a – it’s not even lurking at the back of my brain – just not there at all and it made me doubt my 8d.
    I liked 18 and 20a and 6 and 24d. My favourite was 28a.
    Thanks to Jay and the 2K’s, specially for explaining 14d.
    I really want to try the Micawber Toughie but had better do a bit more in the garden first.

  11. Miffypops
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:36 pm | Permalink | Reply

    When one is au fait
    with Jay
    what is their to say?
    Everything is OK
    So thanks to Jay
    And those from A O tear O A

    The narrow boat Rachel pictured at 3d is a regular visitor to Canalside LA

    • Miffypops
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:40 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Or Canalside LI

    • Mary
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:48 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Yaye, yaye,
      Thanks to Jay
      Finished without help Today
      Even tho’ 17 was a word
      This simple soul
      Had never heard!!!!!

  12. Paso Doble
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:48 pm | Permalink | Reply

    A clever but straightforward puzzle from Jay which didn’t give us any problems – a very satisfying solve for a sunny Wednesday in London. Thanks to J and the 2Ks. 1.5/4

  13. Senf
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 12:57 pm | Permalink | Reply

    A later than usual start on today’s puzzle, because of going to a (ice) hockey match, added to the need for some head scratching and the only way to solve 17a was with electronic assistance – 2.5*/3*.

    Standout favourite 14d, but I did like 18a as well.

    Thanks to Jay and the 2Ks.

  14. Una
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 1:01 pm | Permalink | Reply

    The usual pleasant offering from Jay , manageable but not too easy.
    The weather here is dry but still quite nippy.
    Thanks to Jay and the two Kiwis.

  15. Brian
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 1:26 pm | Permalink | Reply

    So sorry to see the cyclone damage to a beautiful part of the world.
    Completely agree with the rating today, very enjoyable.
    The only problem was 17a, don’t remember coming across this word before. Tried an anagram solver online and that didn’t recognise it either. I think Jay must have borrowed Giovannis odd word dictionary 😀
    Thx to all.

  16. Posted April 5, 2017 at 1:33 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Hola from the Mar Menor – we’re at the flat getting it ready for guests. Bright & sunny but with a chilly wind here.
    Fairly straight forward for us but had to confirm 17a like most others.
    Thanks to Jay & our antipodean bloggers.

  17. Blackbaron
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:02 pm | Permalink | Reply

    A lovely crossword with 21a my favourite. SE corner held me up, not helped by there being two possible answers to 14d. Thanks to Jay and the 2 Kiwis. **/****

  18. Miffypops
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:02 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Just heard. Brian Matthews has died.

    • Senf
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:29 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Sad to see him ‘go,’ but 88 is a good number to end on. Just read the obituary on DT on-line. I remember listening to Saturday Club when I was still in short trousers. A truly great radio presenter who was always welcome in my house.

      • hoofityoudonkey
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 5:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

        He was on the radio when I was a kid, he only packed up his radio show a couple of months ago. The airwaves are poorer for it.

    • crypticsue
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:37 pm | Permalink | Reply

      According to BBC News 10 mins ago – he’s ‘critically ill but alive’

      • Miffypops
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

        Golly. Dead or alive? Well he is only heading in one direction the same as the rest of us.

    • Senf
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:48 pm | Permalink | Reply

      DT on-line report has been ‘updated’ and obit has been removed. Apparently, BBC mis-repoprted.

      • Miffypops
        Posted April 5, 2017 at 3:02 pm | Permalink | Reply

        I prefer the words reported wrongly.

        • Square leg
          Posted April 5, 2017 at 7:48 pm | Permalink | Reply

          Et c’est une folie a nulle autre seconde
          Que vouloir se meler de corriger le monde.

          (From le Misanthrope).

          Note the caesuras in the middle of both lines.

  19. HughGfan
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 2:31 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Silly me putting GRANDMA for 18A that will teach to read the clue properly which then mucked up 19D Doh! Otherwise an enjoyable romp new word for me 17A figured an anagram but needed freedictionary.com to help come up with the answer. That will be **/*** from me.

  20. silvanus
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 3:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Another excellent Jay creation, I was held up for far too long with 14d, which meant that the SE corner took longer than the rest of the puzzle combined.

    My three ticked clues were the two involving cleaners (28a and 25d) plus 19d.

    Many thanks to Mr. Mutch and to Colin and Carol, really sorry to hear about your diabolical weather.

  21. Angellov
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 4:03 pm | Permalink | Reply

    First impression was one of extreme foreboding but gradually pennies began to drop and I can hardly believe it is mission accomplished. Am reassured that I’m not alone in forgetting 17a and finding the final hurdles to be in the SE corner. Thank you Jay and the saturated 2Kiwis – West Sussex has wall-to-wall sunshine.

  22. Merusa
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 5:08 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Two great puzzles in two days, one after another.
    I needed the hint to understand 14d, how clever is that! I also needed gizmo to get 17a, then I had to look it up.
    Lots to choose a fave from, but I think 14d is it, with 18a following a close second.
    Thanks to Jay and to the 2Kiwis for their hints. Hope the weather soon improves.

  23. jean-luc cheval
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 5:31 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Took forever to spot the lurker in 23a.
    14d and 24d were last ones in.
    Very enjoyable.
    Favourite is 18a.
    Thanks to Jay and to 2ks for the review.

    • mcmillibar
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 7:21 pm | Permalink | Reply

      OMG (G stands for goodness btw)… I did not realise that was a lurker. Gave up trying to fathom that one. What a sneaky excellent luscious lurker.

  24. Mr Kitty
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 6:11 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Zoomed through most of this until progress slowed considerably in the SE. Never heard of 17a and, even though it was clearly an anagram, with there being a few ways to insert the unchecked letters to create plausible-looking words I needed aids for that one. Not wild about 14d – in all common fonts the symbol is closer to elliptical than round. No standout favourite, but I did enjoy most of the puzzle and all of the review. Thanks to Jay and to the 2Ks respectively.

  25. 2Kiwis
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 7:19 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Morning everyone. Not yet daylight here but it looks like, although the rain has eased off it is still literally blowing a gale so maybe another ‘hunkered down’ day in prospect.
    When we were solving only one of us, Carol, knew the answer for 17a so it was not surprising to see that it was new to many solvers. An anagram with checkers for 4 of the 7 letters makes it very gettable though.
    Cheers.

    • LetterboxRoy
      Posted April 5, 2017 at 9:14 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Re: 17a – I wrote out several possibilities and decided whatever it was, I didn’t know it.
      So… just ‘click here, look it up and be educated’, was my thought. Not a fan of anagram solving software etc; don’t see the point. Harport pointed me in the right direction and now I know
      something I didn’t know yesterday. It’s another aspect of the blog which I enjoy.
      Well done Carol; hope the weather blows over.

  26. BusyLizzie
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 7:30 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Well I don’t feel quite so silly now, for not knowing the 17a word. Hadn’t forgotten it, just never seen it before. Plus 14d held me up. 1a fell straight in. Good puzzle overall. Thanks for the hints to the Kiwis and hope you stay warm and dry.

  27. Jon_S
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 7:56 pm | Permalink | Reply

    One that felt harder than it was, the long answers in particular looking a little intimidating at first. Finish time about the ** shown above, with the SE corner taking the longest. 17ac was new to me and I guess most solvers. :-)

  28. Weekendwanda
    Posted April 5, 2017 at 11:50 pm | Permalink | Reply

    23a was last one in and that’s because I missed it was a lurker and could not parse it! Thought 14d slick and clever and enjoyed 28a. Thanks all.

  29. Tstrummer
    Posted April 6, 2017 at 12:55 am | Permalink | Reply

    Slightly trickier than usual from my favourite setter, but some crackers in there: 28a was terrific; 14d was sublime, but 21a, my LOI, was just brilliant. Thank you Jay and C&C. 2*/4*
    Now some homework for the Australians in the morning and then to airport to collect my youngest son who’s been in Canada for a couple of years. I can’t wait

  30. Hoofityoudonkey
    Posted April 6, 2017 at 7:19 am | Permalink | Reply

    Tricky in the SE corner, I thought, but much to like, very late, work is getting in the way.
    Thanks all.

  31. Gwizz
    Posted April 6, 2017 at 5:45 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Almost up to date….
    Good crossword as usual from Jay. 28a was my favourite. 2/3.5* overall.thanks to Mr Mutch and those hunkered down far away for their review.

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