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DT 28210 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 28210 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Saturday Crossword Club

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As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”. Where the hint describes a construct as “usual” this means that more help can be found in The Usual Suspects, which gives a number of the elements commonly used in the wordplay. Another useful page is Wolves in Sheep’s Clothing, which features words with meanings that are not always immediately obvious.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submissions.

Some hints follow.


7a    Accept members ready to fight (4,4)
A word meaning to accept followed by some members or body parts

12a    Examination site where those with correct papers may pass (10)
An examination followed by a site or location

14a    Greek character‘s ten cheers (4)
The pair of letters that look like ten as a number followed by a word meaning cheers or much obliged

15a    Enforce efficiency as captain with a drunken crew? (3,1,5,4)
This phrase could mean to be a captain with a drunken crew

18a    Engineer appeals about barrier, wobbly thing in pipe below head (5,5)
An anagram (engineer) of APPEALS around a barrier in a river – is this one of the worst definitions to ever appear in a crossword?

20a    Prince in story‘s chapter causing damage (8)
C(hapter) followed by a verb meaning causing damage

21a    That man should avoid the rough depression (6)
Drop (avoid) the pronoun meaning “that man” from T[HE] and add ROUGH

23a    More vulgar-sounding shopkeeper (6)
Sounds like an adjective meaning more vulgar

Remember this one?

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24a    Vehicle to bring back horse beyond marsh (8)
The TO from the clue followed by the reversal (bring back) of a colloquial word for a horse which is preceded by a marsh


1d    Blue language? (6)
A type of cheese that is also a language, both from the same country

2d    Assist young dog to get a trim on top (4)
Start with a young dog then drop (trim) its initial letter (top)

3d    Crazy person taking one drug after another (8)
Combine colloquial word for cocaine and marijuana

Not a hint, but especially for LROK!

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5d    Church high-up‘s cold, seeking accommodation in parish with hob for cooking (10)
C(old) inside (seeking accommodation in) an anagram (for cooking) of PARISH with HOB

6d    Salary cap — one’s on the bottle! (5-3)
A slang word for salary or income followed by a cap

15d    Farmer hurried around, brave fellow (8)
A three-letter verb meaning hurried followed by the single-letter Latin abbreviation for around or about and a brave fellow

18d    Birds roost here through sitting under a railway (6)
A three-letter word meaning through preceded by (sitting under in a down clue) the A from the clue and followed by the abbreviation for R(ailwa)Y

22d    Bess’s partner lacking power in party (4)
Start with Bess’s partner in the Gershwin opera then drop the P(ower)

I couldn’t resist the opportunity to brighten up a dull puzzle with my favourite version of a song from the opera:

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The Quick Crossword pun: mote+away=motorway

55 comments on “DT 28210 (Hints)

  1. Well that was short and sweet – sadly over all too soon but fun while it lasted. No doubt DT will get lots of prize competition entries today – I’ve given up trying after decades of nil returns. SW corner last to fall. Fav 15a with 6d running up. **/***.

  2. 15 across also my favourite in this comfortable but enjoyable puzzle. Hammering down with rain here in the Marches hence no gardening and an early post from me.

    Many thanks to the Saturday Mysteron and BD.

  3. Dave, you posed the question to 23a: ‘Remember this one?’ And the answer, of course, is ‘yes’ – I’d guessed what was coming before I actually clicked on the link. I can only think that the compiler had his tongue firmly in his cheek when he included that wording in his clue for 18a…

    1. 23a I remember it well.

      I wrongly predicted that 23a was going to be illustrated in the blog by Ted Heath (and his big band.)

  4. Straightforward enough and quite enjoyable, liked 15a as well. I always feel that clues like 21a contain too much of the answer (if I’m allowed to say that). Felt like we have seen 13d – or something like it – quite recently. The end of a fairly standard week apart from Thurs! Have a good weekend all.

  5. Pleasant enjoyable distraction from the weather here in S Wales. I had forgotten the musical hint, having heard it again I realise why. Wish I knew how to put in an appropriate Tom Lehrer track for 3d.
    Like others 15a COTD but also like simplicity of 1d
    Thanks to setter & BD for entertaining hints.

    1. Your comment re the musical hint gave me a laugh. As a friend of mine used to say, ‘they don’t make ’em like they used to – thank God’.

  6. Similarly damp here in West Cork, so a gentle solve over a mug of tea. Raised a smile at 9 and 14, but needed tip for 20, had 5th letter wrong, doh! **/**** Thanks to BD and Setter.

  7. Anybody else having problems with the iPad version? It won’t auto advance and enters the letter last typed in every square I click. Then the keyboard freezes for varying periods. Entries are not saved when exiting or swiping. The Crossword and Codewords are also affected. Yesterday’s Cryptic works OK today.

    1. When I once had this problem, I got rid of the app and re-downloaded it from the App Store. Worked for me.

      1. First thing I do is switch off device completely then reboot & re- load the edition.
        If that doesn’the work I unplug the WiFi for a minute or so. Plug back in & again reload the edition.
        If those fail I do as YS suggests.
        Good luck.

  8. I thought that was OK for a rainy Saturday morning.
    No major hold-ups apart from wondering why my 17a had to be right – was thinking of the wrong kind of crop. :roll:
    Last answer was 1d – don’t know why.
    I only knew 2d as a verb.
    I agree with Toadson that we’ve had 13d quite recently.
    I liked 12a and 22d. My favourite was 15a.
    With thanks to Mr Ron and to BD.
    Going to have a go at NTSPP and MPP.

      1. Just reading yesterday’s comments this morning – we were out for the evening so sorry not to reply until now – might be a bit late.
        Yes – it’s doable but I took a while to get going – good fun though so really worth the effort although you’ve probably discovered that for yourself by now.

  9. Summer time and the going is easy indeed.
    Still enjoying great weather and steady solve of today’s crossword.
    Not much to declare apart from 20a which I found rather good.
    Thanks to the setter and to BD for the musical blog.

  10. All done and dusted in no time at all, but quite enjoyable.
    Top three for me were 15&23a plus 3d.

    Thanks to Mr. Ron and to BD for the musical review.

  11. What a pleasure today, and a relief after 2 days when I thought my brain had turned to mush. Thanks to setter and Big Dave for pointing me in the right direction for a couple where I got lost. Agree 18a clue could have been better. No real favorite as I thought several clues were rather good.

  12. Weekends allow me more solving time so it’s a little frustrating that the puzzles tend to be gentler than during the week. Not to say I didn’t briefly enjoy this . Luckily this blog gives us the opportunity to try something more challenging. Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave for the entertaining tips and the NTSPP.

  13. Well, to be contrary, I found this a bit tricky, and a bit wordy! I never did get 1d, though I did think of that but couldn’t see why; never thought of cheese.
    How could I ever forget Tom Lehrer. In the 50s and 60s we had a huge fan club and passed his “records” around. I had never heard the Summertime version with Ray Charles, how good was that, forgotten treasures, indeed! Thanks, BD, for those entertainments.
    Fave was 15a, but 12a and 3d close behind.
    Thanks to setter, and to BD for a most enjoyable blog.

  14. Back to the more gentle style of Saturday crossword that we have lately been used to!
    Although I tried to make 20a far more difficult than necessary all was completed quite quickly. 20a was favourite and 2/3* (for a Saturday) overall.
    Thanks to the setter, and to BD for his hints.

  15. Came in after a day out and thought it looked hard. However, soon solved. I actually liked 18a and also 24a 13d and 22d. Got 1d but could not help thinking there could be other words that fit as with 7a. My last two in were 15d and 17a. Think they are all right. Thanks to setter and BD and all you bloggers. Quiet so far so perhaps some are having more trouble – or alternatively thought too easy-peas to comment

  16. Pretty straightforward, with a complete mental block at 1d. One of the easier Saturday prize puzzles we’ve had…

  17. Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave for the hints. No problems with this at all, which made a change for me this week. Some good clues, favourite was 15a. Last in was 24a. Was 1*/3* for me.

  18. No problems with this today, but took a while.
    Thanks to BD for the hints and Mr. Ron for the workout…

  19. Dear BD thank you for the two totally fabulous clipsTom Lehrer and Ray and Cleo. I had at least two Lehrer discs which got lost in one of my many moves so it was a welcome reminder. The crossword made up for the mess that I have made of most of the rest of the week, thanks to setter as well. Enjoy the rest of the weekend.

    1. Hi Hillary,
      If you want more of a journey into nostalgia Google “Tom Lehrer full Copenhagen Performance” most of the songs are there (sadly not “Be Prepared” though).

  20. The last few Saturday prize puzzles have been rather more demanding, but this was fun while it lasted (1*/3.5*) and 23a made me laugh. A slight quibble with 15a, in that l believe the third word of the expression should be different (and shorter), but I admit to having heard this version as well occasionally. Anyway, thanks to the setter and BD.

  21. Very enjoyable. Loved 12, 14 & 15 across. Thanks for the help, which was needed twice. 1d eluded me, and although the letters I had already gave me 6d, I still don’t really get it. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx? Not where I work.

    1. As Merusa says, wherever you work, you can’t give a partial answer for one of the weekend prize puzzles. You could, however, comment to that effect when Gnomey’s review of this puzzle appears at 9 am next Friday morning.

  22. Was very pleased to be able to solve today’s offering without any problem after last week’s rather difficult puzzles. My excuse was being unable to concentrate fully as on the move between Sussex and Hyéres… 3D made me smile as did 20a and 1d. 1*/3.5. Many thanks to setter and to BD. Will be more present on the blog from now on…

  23. Yes , BD, 18a is the worst clue ever, or in any case the worst clue today.
    We had an almost identical 13d in some other crossword recently.
    Still, I enjoyed it. And I enjoyed the Tom Lehrer too.
    Thanks to all concerned .

  24. After putting in a huge effort to complete the MPP today, this provided some light relief. I thought it was a bit of a mixture with the extremes being 5d & 18a (awful) and 15a (brilliant).

    Thanks to Mr Ron and to BD.

  25. Completed while the boy was in theatre – just as well that I took a book as well, because the puzzle was finished before the surgeon had even made his first incision. 1d and 20a vying for top spot. Lots of others to like too, so thanks to the setter and, as ever, to BD. I’m off to poison some pigeons in the park. 1*/3*

  26. Completed fairly quickly today,sorry BD found it dull, but I did enjoy it -had a drink with a pal explaining how it all works -he said his mind didn’t work that way!
    Liked 3d & 8d and 15a.
    At least today the water tubs refilled, but lawns need cutting still.
    Thx BD and Mr. Ron!

  27. Had still one to do at lights out last night, 20a, but solved that as I was falling asleep so the comment had to wait til this morning. But I had to record that I finished without any hints, didn’t I?!
    Thanks to BD and the setter, my sort of cryptic, but still a good brain workout for me.

  28. Very busy yesterday so had to finish this this morning.

    Found it more difficult than most of you and needed some electrpnic help.

    Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave

  29. Spent less time on this cryptic than the quickie-must be improving ?
    Very enjoyable though
    Thanks to all

  30. Why do people write in to a (one and only) Saturday hints blog just to say, ‘I did it all in 2 seconds and didn’t need any hints’? Still struggling with 9a and 4d.

    1. I don’t think anyone’s actually put a time – but one person’s ‘no time at all’ could be quite a long time really.

      I can’t give you hints for 9a and 4d as my solved puzzle is at home and the Telegraph site now requires me to upgrade Adobe Acrobat before it will show me anything and I’m at work so can’t do that without going through administrative hoops of fire :(

      I’m sure someone will turn up to give you some hints soon – if all else fails Gnomey’s review will be available on Friday morning.

  31. 9a The answer is a synonym for one of the meanings of the first work. It is made up of a synonym for awful and a heartless cat.
    4d. Think of crossword land’s word for commercial and a synonym for objective and you get the answer.
    Hope this is not too much information.
    Don’t be disheartened by the quick solvers. It is the pleasure that counts.

    1. Thank you for that Wanda; so you obviously don’t find the ‘2 seconds flat’ bloggers excruciatingly annoying.

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