ST 2703 (Hints)

Sunday Telegraph Cryptic No 2703 (Hints)

Hints and tips by Big Dave

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This could be the time to have a go at our Monthly Prize puzzle.
All of the entries received so far have given a different answer, and only one of them is correct!

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, I will select a few of the more difficult clues and provide hints for them.

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Most of the terms used in these hints are explained in the Glossary and examples are available by clicking on the entry under “See also”.  Definitions are underlined in the clues.

A full review of this puzzle will be published after the closing date for submission

Across

1a           Manual surfaces, covering small parts for service (6)
These manual surfaces are those on the human body – put them around S(mall) to get parts of a church service

10a         It’s hard to be penniless (5)
An adjective meaning hard and the state of being penniless or broke

11a         Europeans from North and South accepted by chaps of the old school (9)
S(outh) inside some chaps, like Cameron and Osborne, from an old school

12a         Oddly I used to change outside — that’s doubly tiresome (7)
Two anagrams (doubly) that give the same result – oddly I USED TO and change OUTSIDE

14a         Producer of sunflower oils (7,3,4)
A delightful cryptic definition of someone who “produced” a sunflower using oils

21a         Concerning condition of course in progress (7)
A two-letter word meaning concerning followed by the condition of a horse-racing course

25a         Clumsy writer held back by the aforementioned article (5)
An instrument used for writing is reversed (back) inside (held) a two-letter word which refers to a previously mentioned article

27a         Hunted some elephants initially in part of Africa (6)
The initial letters of Some Elephants inside an African country

Down

1d           Fully convinced, as result of development (8)
two definitions – the second one being the result of developing a photograph

Negative and Positive

2d           Evasion from a spokesperson about level of fighting (9)
The A from the clue followed by a spokesperson around a level of fighting used in Japanese combative sports

3d           Month with foreigner in centre for traditional dance (7)
A charade of a month of the year and a foreigner

6d           Handled weapon used in attack that’s carried out by woman (7)
Something with handles which is used by a woman, like Mrs Thatcher, to literally or metaphorically carry out an attack

7d           Careless piece of writing, apart from first slow movement (5)
Start with a careless piece of writing and drop (apart from) the initial letter (first) of Slow
[Jezza has suggested that the initial letter could be dropped by “apart from first” and that leaves “slow movement” as a rather better definition]

9d           County with it can prepare compact living quarters (3-7,4)
A charade of the abbreviated form of an English county, IT, a can and a verb meaning to prepare

15d         Pure, like an unadorned lily, so to speak? (9)
This sounds like an adjective that could be applied to a lily that has not been adorned, as in the phrase which technically means applying gold to a lily but actually means attempting to beautify that which is already beautiful

19d         Using shot in a hospital for extreme pain (7)
An anagram (shot) of USING inside the A from the clue and H(ospital)

22d         Show amusement about a bit of corn (5)
A verb meaning to show amusement around the A from the clue

If you need further help then please ask and I will see what I can do.

As this is a Prize crossword, please don’t put WHOLE or PARTIAL ANSWERS or ALTERNATIVE CLUES in your comment, else they may be censored!


Today it’s Happy Birthday to Barack Obama (52)
 

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56 Comments

  1. jezza
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:02 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to Virgilius for the usual Sunday treat, and to BD for the hints.
    I wondered whether the definition to 7d was ‘slow movement’, or perhaps ‘apart from first’ is not an adequate instruction to drop the first letter.

    • Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:14 pm | Permalink

      I think that’s better than my analysis – both would seem to work.

      • gnomethang
        Posted August 5, 2013 at 6:21 pm | Permalink

        A fun puzzle from Virgilius that I solved this morning on the train due to early golf then family duties.
        Personally I read this clue as Jezza describes and favour that interpretation only because it appears more elegant to me.
        Thanks to Virgilius and to BD for the Hints and Tips.

  2. Kath
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

    Oh dear, again – for the third day in a row I’ve found the crossword really difficult – now totally convinced that it must be me! :sad:
    I was very slow to even get started on this one. Having read all the clues through once I only had five answers – and it didn’t get much better.
    I ended up, after a very long time even by my standards, with absolutely nothing in the top left corner, except 12a.
    It’s ages since I gave up and came running for help with so many gaps – couldn’t even do the sunflowers – really having a dim day.
    I wanted to make 6d exactly what it is but didn’t dare put it in as it made the last bit of ‘the sunflowers’ look a bit unlikely. :roll: should have got it from that!
    Oh well – put it all down to experience!
    I liked lots of these clues, eventually – 4, 13 and 24a and 9d.
    With thanks to Virgilius for the crossword (and for putting me back in my box) and to BD for the much needed hints.

    • Merusa
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:29 pm | Permalink

      You are not alone. Yesterday was hard but with an eventual start was do-able, but today was a real slog. I got 14a immediately, then full stop. I never did complete the top right-hand corner, still don’t know 4a and 8d. The long clues were the easiest. Will revisit later.

      • Merusa
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 4:00 pm | Permalink

        Got 4a, now just need 8d. I think I must be as thick as a short plank

        • Merusa
          Posted August 4, 2013 at 4:02 pm | Permalink

          Got 8d.

        • Kath
          Posted August 4, 2013 at 4:07 pm | Permalink

          No, you’re definitely not as thick as any kind of plank – I’m the plank of the blog today. I really couldn’t do it. I’ve never gaped blankly at any clue for as long as I did with 14a.

        • andy
          Posted August 4, 2013 at 5:05 pm | Permalink

          If it’s any comfort this took me longer to solve than the toughie on Friday

          • Kath
            Posted August 4, 2013 at 8:12 pm | Permalink

            That is of huge comfort – thanks Andy – really cheered me up! :smile:

  3. stanXYZ
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

    Always my favourite puzzle of the week. Thanks to Virgilius!

    (Happy Birthday, Mr President! There are rumours that he is losing weight … but … ?)

    • andy
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 5:00 pm | Permalink

      lol

  4. una
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

    I thought it was a lovely puzzzle, as usual, though not easy.Absolute favourite 14a, which wasn’t immediately obvious.Neck-in- neck for second place were 1a, 4a, and 24a. I’m not really sure how I got 7d and 19d , just the checking letters , I think.Thanks Virgilius and BD for this blog, didn’t need the hints, for once.

  5. ChrisH
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:56 pm | Permalink

    I found this challenging but not as hard as the previous two days. A good puzzle.

    re 15d, I thought the lily was painted, the other thing was ******.

    • ChrisH
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:36 pm | Permalink

      Sitting here on the naughty step, I fail to see the difference between ‘applying gold’ and the word I used.

      • Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:44 pm | Permalink

        The one you used was the one I had jumped through hoops to avoid using as it forms part of the homophone. If you can’t see the difference then it’s best to say nothing.

  6. Kath
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 1:58 pm | Permalink

    PS Just read BD’s comment about the MPP at the top of this. Just about to go and see if I can work out the answer – might as well add another different one!

    • crypticsue
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:43 pm | Permalink

      If its any consolation, the person who tested the puzzle couldn’t get the right answer at first, she had to enlist the help of her husband!!

      • Kath
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 4:03 pm | Permalink

        I wonder who that was! :smile:
        Seriously now, I do think that there are different ways of interpreting the question – husband at work at the moment but I might give it to him later and see what he thinks.

    • KiwiColin
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 7:55 pm | Permalink

      I was pleased to read that one of the answers submitted for the MPP was correct, sincerely hope that it was mine. Agree that there are several possible interpretations. Will just have to wait in hopeful expectation for the 17th August to find out.
      Really fun to do. Solving the puzzle and having a shot at the answer is well within the abilities of all commenters on this blog I reckon. Why not give it a go everyone.

      • Kath
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 8:17 pm | Permalink

        I agree with everything you’ve said.
        Go on everyone – have a go – if I can finish it most of you, if not all of you, can. The tricky bit is the question.
        Do hope that it’s been noticed how good I’m getting at doing the bold and italics stuff! This is, of course, where it will all have gone wrong!

        • Kath
          Posted August 4, 2013 at 8:19 pm | Permalink

          It didn’t! :smile:

  7. Brian
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable puzzle with some clever clues such as my fav 14a and also 12a.
    Needed the hint for 1a due to my usual problems with religious clues.
    Thx to the setter and to BD for the hint.

    • Brian
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

      Bit unsure about shot as an anagram indicator, doesn’t really work for me, what does anyone else think?

      • Derek
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

        “Shot” can mean “knocked about” hence anagram indicator!

    • stanXYZ
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 2:33 pm | Permalink

      Brian, I’m always so disappointed when you actually like the crossword!

      Much prefer it when you think it is “Horrid”!

      • Merusa
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:34 pm | Permalink

        Especially when I found it so hard and the ones I find easy, he thinks are stinkers!

  8. Heno
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 2:27 pm | Permalink

    Thanks to Virgilius and to Big Dave for the hints. I enjoyed this one a lot, but needed the hints for 1&21a to finish. Favourites were 14a and 5d. Was 3*/3* for me. Hope the rain doesn’t spoil the Test Match.

  9. Derek
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 2:31 pm | Permalink

    Another very enjoyable puzzle from Virgilius to round off the week!

    Faves : 1a, 11a, 14a, 24a, 2d, 6d, 7d & 9d.

    Not all 24a are poisonous though!

    Still wandering around my flat virtually undressed to keep cool! 27C inside!

    • Tantalus
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 5:14 pm | Permalink

      All 24a varieties that I put in Mrs Ts granola are.

      Thanks to Virgilius & BD.

  10. Toni
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:10 pm | Permalink

    Found it fairly straight forward today although had lethal in for a while in Sw corner which held me up.
    Spent ages thinking of the 3 letter word at the beginning of the accommodation. Last one in

  11. crypticsue
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 3:57 pm | Permalink

    Superb stuff – very jealous of that Gnome!! Many favourites but 14a has the most stars by it.

    Nieces greatly impressed by my ability to decipher cryptic clues! I’ll convert them to solving too one day.

  12. Annidrum
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 4:35 pm | Permalink

    Like yesterday’s I found this of the teeth-pulling variety but got there in the end .
    Thanks to Virgilius & BD.

  13. andy
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 5:12 pm | Permalink

    Despite jealousy of Dereks heat whilst it’s pouring down in East Anglia, and slightly annoyed that trying to get washing dry is impossible, Virgilius has come up trumps. Thanks to all

  14. pommers
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 5:23 pm | Permalink

    Really glad others thought this a bit at the difficult end of Sunday puzzles – I thought it might just be us having an off day! Took pommette and I about twice as long as usual with only 5 across clues on first pass!

    Finished (eventually) while sitting at the bar in a nice cooling flow from the aircon so I can’t even blame the heat! Must just be us having an off day after all.

    17a is a bit American for my taste but we got there after a bit of head scratching.

    However, it was great entertainment and one of the best Sunday puzzles for some time IMO, and that’s saying quite a lot as Virglius is one of my favourite setters.
    Many thanks to him for the puzzle and for keeping us entertained for an extra beer while we teased out the last few :grin:

    • andy
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 6:02 pm | Permalink

      A bit like cryptic Sue and Eileens comments on a recent Bannsider puzzle on a different site, just when you think you’ve reached the wavelength……..enjoy your beers the pair of you

      • pommers
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 6:10 pm | Permalink

        If I ever get anywhere near Bannsider’s wavelength I’ll know I’ve become a real expert! His puzzles usually take me about 3 days but are always fair and gettable (eventually) once the currency has dropped and the head been banged on the table a few times!

        • andy
          Posted August 4, 2013 at 9:50 pm | Permalink

          I’ve never finished one yet, got close once, ouch me ‘ead hurt

          • pommers
            Posted August 4, 2013 at 10:09 pm | Permalink

            I reckon Bannsider is HD television compared to my 405 line analogue but it is possible to get there in the end. Only been looking at his puzzles for about 3 or 4 months but always found his clues fair, even if very misleading.

          • andy
            Posted August 4, 2013 at 10:31 pm | Permalink

            Agreed m’ dear, off now to walk the pooches, say hola to pomette for me, buenos noches

      • Kath
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 10:55 pm | Permalink

        A different site? Surely there is only one worth looking at – nothing is as good as this one is! This is not an informed decision – never looked at another one, and don’t intend to – it would feel disloyal. As usual thanks to all.

  15. Sweet William
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 5:33 pm | Permalink

    Thank you Virgilius – good as usual. Thanks BD for your hints – some of which I used to get a move on as I was late starting. Rushing round Conway RSPB to beat the rain, a swim, test match and a total failure to concentrate properly ! Had to finish before hopefully a decent dinner in a nice hotel near Caernarfon.

  16. Caroline
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 6:35 pm | Permalink

    sorry to say i did not much like this puzzle.

    The sunflower clue was good but it went downhill after that.

    MrC and i got it all without coming here for hints but really… “anglisizing” an americanism? Especially when there’s a shorter form of that word which is much better English.

    And then one of the Down clues was the most sexist i’ve seen in a crossword for a very long time.

    Sorry, my response is “could do better”

    • gazza
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 7:05 pm | Permalink

      You consider it sexist to refer to the fact that a woman carries a 6d in public ????

      • Caroline
        Posted August 7, 2013 at 7:43 pm | Permalink

        It’s sexist to suggest we fight with them.

        • crypticsue
          Posted August 7, 2013 at 10:04 pm | Permalink

          Just checked in Chambers to see what the definition was – its an informal verb meaning to attack, destroy, wreck or undermine, originally attributed to Margaret Thatcher. You learn something knew every day

    • Kath
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 8:30 pm | Permalink

      I really can’t see anything sexist in 6d – perhaps I’m less ‘sensitive’ than you are on the subject.
      Most complaints about sexism are aimed at Ray T on alternate Thursdays, although never from me – I usually find those kinds of clues/answers some of his best – they make me laugh!

      • Tilsit
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 8:48 pm | Permalink

        I found it a breathtakingly clever puzzle with lots of lovely clues, many that made me smile.

        Best puzzle this weekend by a long chalk.

    • crypticsue
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 9:03 pm | Permalink

      Three generations of females in my family laughed out loud – definitely not a sexist clue

      • andy
        Posted August 4, 2013 at 10:19 pm | Permalink

        and my mates in the pub whom i am tying to “get” cryptics really don’t see it as sexist. Somewhat annoying but lovely when you hear, oi andy, 14a “sunflower oils” , that’s that bloke who chopped his ear off and that 17a gonna be an anagram….

        • Kath
          Posted August 4, 2013 at 10:46 pm | Permalink

          Yes – that 17a anagram all went a bit wrong – thought I’d got the answer and wrote it straight in but it wasn’t on elastic and wasn’t long enough! It wasn’t until I actually wrote out all the letters of the anagram that I realised it was the American version with a couple of extra letters in the middle. That’ll teach me . . .

    • Merusa
      Posted August 4, 2013 at 11:37 pm | Permalink

      Lighten up. Save it for a real transgression.

  17. Roger
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 11:10 pm | Permalink

    I thought this crossword was brilliant with some really clever clues. Very very enjoyable. And straightforward !

  18. Only fools
    Posted August 4, 2013 at 11:48 pm | Permalink

    Virgilius is my favourite setter and like others thought the sunflower clue a knockout !
    I have no problem with anglicisms ,americanisms or sexist clues (was it really ?) but I do have a problem with “could do better ” .
    A real pleasure of a puzzle ,thanks Virgilius .If you can do better ,I for one look forward to it .
    Keep happy Caroline and thanks to BD

  19. Paul Smith
    Posted August 5, 2013 at 6:53 am | Permalink

    A real slog. Thanks for the tips. With repeated efforts, this one has taken me over a day. NOW, I love the sunflower clue:)

  20. Cornish Pasty (not that there is any other)
    Posted August 5, 2013 at 5:43 pm | Permalink

    Finally done the. Darn thing, relieved to see I was not the only one to struggle with this one. 14a required a lot of staring over 2 days to finally twig the key was oils as a medium. I got 5d early on but it took until today to completely understand why.