DT 26972 (Hints)

Daily Telegraph Cryptic No 26972 (Hints)

Big Dave’s Crossword Club

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Today is the last day that you can enter our September Monthly Prize crossword.

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, an assortment of clues, including some of the more difficult ones, have been selected and hints provided for them.

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Across

4a           By end of over I had ball causing dismissal (8)
A charade of the final letter (end) of oveR, the two-letter abbreviation of I had and a ball (the kind where people take steps in time with the music!)

8a           Dolly has heart turned by regular customer (6)
This Dolly is a well-endowed country singer and actress! – just swap round the middle two letters of her surname

13a         Is annoying society without cause (8)
A verb meaning is annoying followed by S(ociety)

16a         Shrub, being at home in desert, to become sickly when uprooted (8)
This being that is at home in the desert is followed by the reversal (when uprooted?) of a verb meaning to become sickly

21a         Beat Obama, for example, one after another (6)
A verb meaning to beat followed by the three-letter abbreviation for Barack Obama’s political party

26a         Control opening to create in new form (8)
A charade of a verb meaning to control and an opening

Down

1d           Quiet region of Spain, one that’s just perfect (7)
The musical notation for quiet followed by a region of Spain

3d           Unmentionable things zombie does? (6)
These undergarments could be what a zombie does

6d           Did ‘urt with weapons (5)
Drop the initial H from a verb meaning did hurt

15d         American beach barbecue where Madeleine perhaps eats meat (8)
The kind of food item of which Madeleine is an example (perhaps) around (eats) a type of meat

22d         Condescend to exclude son from plan (5)
Drop the S(on) from a plan or pattern,


The Crossword Club is now open.  Feel free to leave comments.

Please don’t put whole or partial answers or alternative clues in your comment, else they may be censored!


The Quick crossword pun: {Western} + {soup} + {ameer} = {Weston super Mare}


76 Comments

  1. Lord Luvvaduck
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 11:07 am | Permalink

    Quite easy for us today, but thanks for the explanation of 8a; could not be anything else as an answer but did not understand it. Now feel quite sheepish about the direction we were heading in.

  2. Peter
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    I enjoyed today’s, finished before 9 am. Got a bit stuck in the NW corner, confusing singers with cloned sheep.
    A good start to the weekend.
    Thanks BD and the setter

  3. Digby
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 11:28 am | Permalink

    Not a sheep, but I did try to get VADREN to work at 8a, till the pennies hit me between both eyes.
    A nice, gentle Saturday work-out on a cracking day in Heavenly Henfield.
    Thanks (Cephas?) and BD

  4. Kath
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:00 pm | Permalink

    I thought this was a lovely crossword with some brilliant clues – really enjoyed it.
    I would NEVER have got 4d if it hadn’t come up before – and I’m still in a bit of a muddle with all the men so haven’t quite unravelled it yet! I was a bit slow to get 16a – kept trying to get “in” for “home” into it somewhere.
    Far too many favourites to write them all down so a few of them are 9, 10, 16 and 23a and 3, 14 and 15d.
    With thanks to the setter – whether it’s Cephas or Mr Ron – and to BD.
    Beautiful sunny day AND the dancing starts again tonight! :grin:

    • Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:04 pm | Permalink

      The men are (3,4,3) respectively

      • Kath
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:18 pm | Permalink

        Thanks BD,
        How dim can I possibly be, not that there’s any need for anyone to answer that! I had 3, 2 and then another three letter one further down – the rest of it was a bit of a mess! :roll:

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:24 pm | Permalink

      Thanks for reminding me about the dancing Kath, something to look forward to :-) , Have only just started this and at first glance it doesn’t look too easy to me, I think 9a is a place I’ve never heard of!!

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:31 pm | Permalink

      Once again we have no sun! :-( , though it was promised

      • Mary
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:53 pm | Permalink

        One of my sons has given up expecting any sun and has bought himself a SAD lamp, thinking of getting one myself, this summer the weather has really been depressing!

        • Collywobbles
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:22 pm | Permalink

          Mary, I doubt that you have heard of 9a. Concentrate on the anagram. This is a lovely puzzle and very doable once you get into it

          • Mary
            Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

            Hi collywobs, I did get it but had never heard of it :-)

            • Collywobbles
              Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:25 pm | Permalink

              Nor me. An odd name.

              • spindrift
                Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:04 pm | Permalink

                Do you not remember that this formed part of the name of the nemesis of Bugs Bunny? I think ….

            • Weekend Wanda
              Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:59 pm | Permalink

              I’m sure you have heard of it. Try pronouncing with four syllables.

  5. Caravaggio
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:23 pm | Permalink

    Although I don’t play golf, I do have a good knowledge of most sports and saw the answer to 4d straight away. But, when I came to find the three men, they weren’t immediately apparent! They are now because one of them is my actual forename and I’m sorry to disappoint anyone who thought that my nom-de-plume was my real name…

    • Collywobbles
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:23 pm | Permalink

      I don’t think that you are old enough Cara

      • Caravaggio
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:37 pm | Permalink

        Incidentally, Collywobbles, I’ve never played tennis either…

  6. Mark L-H
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:39 pm | Permalink

    Always nice to learn from crosswords.

    Quite like the idea of a 16d, and never heard of 16a before.

    Really enjoyed this one. Could not for the life of me work out why I got 8a, other than it was obvious – thanks for explanation.

    Just about to start an ANTINOVEL having first learnt about the concept last week. – “Report on probability A” – anyone ever read it?

  7. Brian
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:43 pm | Permalink

    Thought at first run through that ths was going to be troublesome but perservation showed it to be quite achievable. Best clue for me was 19a, clever!
    Didnt need the hints today but thx anyway and to the setter.

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:51 pm | Permalink

      Well done Brian I am still perservating on and off with this!

      • Collywobbles
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:30 pm | Permalink

        It’s really quite easy Mary and it’s lovely warm sunshine here, sorry about that

        • Mary
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:41 pm | Permalink

          Oh for some warmth and sunshine!

          • Mary
            Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:47 pm | Permalink

            Having a mug of hot chocolate just to warm my hands on!!

        • Mary
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:50 pm | Permalink

          My brother and his wife are in France for a month in their motorhome in the Languedoc area but haven’t had very warm weather so far

          • Collywobbles
            Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:30 pm | Permalink

            I live in the Languedoc and we have only had 2 cloudy days throughout the summer

            • Mary
              Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:34 pm | Permalink

              I knew you lived there, that’s why I thought it strange!

  8. crypticsue
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:52 pm | Permalink

    Despite the glorious sunshine (sorry Mary) and its warm too, I have had one of those mornings when I might have done better staying in bed. However, solving the Saturday Mysteron just now didn’t take long so perhaps things will improve this afternoon. I particularly liked 3d. Thanks to BD for the hints.

    Two questions – why don’t the DT put italics when the QUick Pun is going to be 3 words? Am I a bad person for laughing out loud in the supermarket queue when I saw today’s Matt cartoon? :D

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 12:54 pm | Permalink

      Not a bad person at all sue, not even for mentioning the warm sunshine you have, once again it is cold and cloudy!

    • Kath
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:34 pm | Permalink

      I laughed at the Matt too – don’t think it makes us bad people but do rather wish that all the photographers would leave them alone.
      I thought the clues for the Quick pun were in italics if it was more than two words, but haven’t done today’s.
      Hope that your day improves – don’t forget the dancing!

  9. Mary
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:07 pm | Permalink

    OK have finished except for 15d, can’t see this even with Daves hint!

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:08 pm | Permalink

      OK see it now, had spelt 16a wrong!

  10. Mary
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:11 pm | Permalink

    Although once I settled down to this it fell into place, I don’t think it was one of the easier Saturday puzzles, thinking Andrews was the last word for 4d didn’t help until I looked it up, needed my usual ‘help’ and one or two hints from Dave, thanks Dave, a three star for me today, fav clue 3d

    • Kath
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:38 pm | Permalink

      Last time we had 4d in a prize crossword I mentioned what you said you were thinking of for the last word – seem to remember being deleted (and probably sent to the naughty corner!!)
      I liked 3d too.
      Maybe the sun will come out later in Wales.

      • Mary
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:43 pm | Permalink

        Really? well hopefully I will not be sent again today, can’t really see what’s wrong with that, maybe you put the three words in Kath?

  11. Prolixic
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Some very enjoyable surface readings from our Mysteron with a crossword that shows it does not have to be fiendish to be fun.

    If anyone has time to solve Gervase’s crossword in the NTSPP series today, I would recommend that you give it a go.

    • Kath
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

      Just having a go at the NTSPP – seem to have ground to a complete halt – more “perservation” needed, I think.

  12. Jezza
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:17 pm | Permalink

    I always seem to end up in the NW at the weekend. The last two for me were 8a, followed by 3d.
    I should have sussed 8a earlier; reminds me of a Chubby Brown song……..
    Thanks to setter, and to BD.

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:20 pm | Permalink

      Strange how our minds work Jezza, 3d was first in for me!

      • Collywobbles
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:33 pm | Permalink

        Do you look at the down clues first, Mary

        • Mary
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:40 pm | Permalink

          I do collywobs and always start with the last down clue

          • Collywobbles
            Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:42 pm | Permalink

            Why?

            • Mary
              Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:46 pm | Permalink

              I know it’s silly and it probably doesn’t apply any more, but my brother who has been doing these for over forty years as opposed to my three, gave me that advice, he used to think that by the time setters got down to the last few clues they were running out of ideas and therefor the last down clues would be the easiest, so that’s what I do :-D

              • Mary
                Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:52 pm | Permalink

                obviously doesn’t always work, as the first down clue I put in today was 3d!

              • Collywobbles
                Posted September 15, 2012 at 1:53 pm | Permalink

                and does it work for you? It seems to defie logic

  13. spindrift
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Completed this while laid flat on my back with a spot of sciatica incurred picking up my briefcase following a meeting at Schiphol airport – not the most comfotable journeys home I’ve experienced. Thanks to Cephas (although I’ve got my doubts) & to BD as usual.

    Now if I can pesuade Mrs S to print the NTSPP then I won’t have to stare at the ceiling for the rest of the afternoon.

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:13 pm | Permalink

      Sorry about your back. It was Cephas last week so Mr Rono this week.

      • spindrift
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:28 pm | Permalink

        I knew it! It was the flavour of 17d & 18d which made me think.

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:22 pm | Permalink

      Sciatica is awful, be better soon :-(

      • spindrift
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:26 pm | Permalink

        Thank you & the feeling is reciprocated.

        • Mary
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:35 pm | Permalink

          :-)

  14. gazza
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:10 pm | Permalink

    Did anyone else think that the definition of 4d is not quite correct?

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:15 pm | Permalink

      Me. It is not a course – there is an Old Course associated with it but it’s definitely a club.

      • Mary
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:18 pm | Permalink

        I just see it as the names of three men and an american coin round i ? If it’s not a golf course what is it?

      • Kath
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:19 pm | Permalink

        See – I SAID I didn’t know anything about golf, or golf courses! MUST learn to keep big mouth shut and stop questioning the clever people! :oops:

    • Kath
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:16 pm | Permalink

      No, why? Not that I know anything about golf, let alone golf courses!

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:21 pm | Permalink

      Isn’t the name of the golf club the same as the name of the course?

      • crypticsue
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:25 pm | Permalink

        Not according to its website.

        • Mary
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:39 pm | Permalink

          I know it says the club doesn’t own the course but if that’s not the name of the course what is?

  15. BigBoab
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:40 pm | Permalink

    Very enjoyable crossword, the *** is the club, but the courses are all owned by and shared with the St. Andrews Local Authority, even the championship courses, they are open to the public ( when there are no matches being played ) theoretically anyway. Glorious sunshine up here on the Fife coast, aperfect day for the airshow at Leuchars, next door to St. Andrews.

    • Mary
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:43 pm | Permalink

      I think that is what the course is called though, Gazza you started this, what do you have to say?

      • gazza
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 2:51 pm | Permalink

        I say that the answer is a club, not a course.

        • stanXYZ
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:05 pm | Permalink

          A similar argument discussion fairly recently !

          http://bigdave44.com/2012/08/16/st-2651/

          See – 5d – Sandwich.

          Gazza is correct! Of course! :grin:

        • Mary
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:33 pm | Permalink

          OK but what is the course called then?

          • gazza
            Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:40 pm | Permalink

            There are lots of courses in the city where the answer is based. The most famous of them is called the Old Course.

            • Collywobbles
              Posted September 15, 2012 at 5:47 pm | Permalink

              Of course

  16. Weekend Wanda
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:08 pm | Permalink

    For me some v good clues especially 8 16 and 23 a and 3 and –
    14 d. Quite a breeze till I arrived in the South West

  17. Wozza
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:23 pm | Permalink

    Quite straightforward but a lovely crossword.

    Has anyone done the quickie. It looks like its a pangram but I’m missing a “G”. Have I gone wrong somewhere?

    Thanks

    W

    • crypticsue
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:32 pm | Permalink

      No G.

      • Wozza
        Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:38 pm | Permalink

        Ok, thanks

        • Wozza
          Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:51 pm | Permalink

          I guess it must be a panram! ;-)

          • Kath
            Posted September 15, 2012 at 4:25 pm | Permalink

            :grin:

    • stanXYZ
      Posted September 15, 2012 at 3:39 pm | Permalink

      I can’t find a “G” either! Maybe, we’ve both gone wrong?

      I really must try to find something more important to do! Ah! Lose some money on the St Leger?

  18. Colmce
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 5:56 pm | Permalink

    Really enjoyed today’s puzzle, this is defined by; I solved it in record time and had no recourse to gizmos.

    Thanks for the hints.

    Thanks to the setter.

  19. Annidrum
    Posted September 15, 2012 at 6:04 pm | Permalink

    Enjoyed this today. A bit of an American flavour to it including 8a ,one of my favouite places in the world . :smile:

  20. Heno
    Posted September 16, 2012 at 1:09 am | Permalink

    Thanks to the setter and to Big Dave for the hints, which I didn’t need for once. First in was 2d, last in was 24a, favourites were 3 & 4d, even though the definition was dodgy.Weather superb in central London, went to Arsenal & they hit 6, great day.

  21. Derek
    Posted September 16, 2012 at 1:15 pm | Permalink

    Very late input from me as was hauled out by my daughter to go to a restaurant in Amstelveen to celebrate her twins’ birthday. Back home this very early morning – slept till 9 o’clock!
    The twins are what the French call “faux jumeaux” – we don’t seem to have a name unless non-identical fits the bill.

    A nice Saturday puzzle.

    Best clues for me : 16a, 21a, 3d & 15d.