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		<title>By: Big Dave</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8702</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 09:34:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Peter

Not only does the website not have this information, but you don&#039;t even get the Toughie setter&#039;s name there - we have to wait for the paper to be sure of that.

I have answered this before, but I will try again.  For five days out of the seven the setter is almost always the same.  For the other two days we rely on being told by the setters themselves, although we are able to recognise some of them by their style.  Ray T, for example, uses almost invariably one-word answers and his clues have an absolute minimum of padding.

A good example of this is that several of us detected a significant change in the style of the Sunday puzzles, and a mistake made one Sunday revealed that not only had the setter changed, but Peter Biddlecombe identified him correctly. (See http://bigdave44.com/2009/06/21/st-2489-hints/ )</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Peter</p>
<p>Not only does the website not have this information, but you don&#8217;t even get the Toughie setter&#8217;s name there &#8211; we have to wait for the paper to be sure of that.</p>
<p>I have answered this before, but I will try again.  For five days out of the seven the setter is almost always the same.  For the other two days we rely on being told by the setters themselves, although we are able to recognise some of them by their style.  Ray T, for example, uses almost invariably one-word answers and his clues have an absolute minimum of padding.</p>
<p>A good example of this is that several of us detected a significant change in the style of the Sunday puzzles, and a mistake made one Sunday revealed that not only had the setter changed, but Peter Biddlecombe identified him correctly. (See <a href="http://bigdave44.com/2009/06/21/st-2489-hints/" rel="nofollow">http://bigdave44.com/2009/06/21/st-2489-hints/</a> )</p>
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		<title>By: Peter</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8697</link>
		<dc:creator>Peter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Nov 2009 06:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finished much more quickly than usual, without needing a dictionary or to come here!

How do you know who sets the crosswords? Does it tell you on the website? I only ever use the paper version.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finished much more quickly than usual, without needing a dictionary or to come here!</p>
<p>How do you know who sets the crosswords? Does it tell you on the website? I only ever use the paper version.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dave</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8659</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:59:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I hope I&#039;ll do instead of Mary !!

16d Very many expelled were downcast (8)
Very many is a large Roman numeral, and this is followed by a word meaning expelled, perhaps from a military aircraft, to get an adjective meaning downcast</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hope I&#8217;ll do instead of Mary !!</p>
<p>16d Very many expelled were downcast (8)<br />
Very many is a large Roman numeral, and this is followed by a word meaning expelled, perhaps from a military aircraft, to get an adjective meaning downcast</p>
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		<title>By: John P</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8658</link>
		<dc:creator>John P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Nov 2009 00:45:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I STILL havent got 16 d  Mary!  I&#039;ve got all the across cliues so have four letters to complete and have come up witha potential answer which doesn&#039;t seem quite right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I STILL havent got 16 d  Mary!  I&#8217;ve got all the across cliues so have four letters to complete and have come up witha potential answer which doesn&#8217;t seem quite right!</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have a great time</description>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 23:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>bring it on   and .....  :) I did say sorry ...still friends</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>bring it on   and &#8230;..  <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  I did say sorry &#8230;still friends</p>
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		<title>By: Edi</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:35:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again struggled for a while, my brain is not getting out of first gear. But having read the wonderful messages left on this blog and BD&#039;s hints have finished. Off to Oxford to celebrate three years with the missus. see you guys tuesday.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again struggled for a while, my brain is not getting out of first gear. But having read the wonderful messages left on this blog and BD&#8217;s hints have finished. Off to Oxford to celebrate three years with the missus. see you guys tuesday.</p>
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		<title>By: Edi</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8654</link>
		<dc:creator>Edi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 22:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and i thought we were to become friends. can&#039;t wait for the six nations</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and i thought we were to become friends. can&#8217;t wait for the six nations</p>
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		<title>By: Fi</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8652</link>
		<dc:creator>Fi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:20:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks BD. I tried every drink except that one........
You&#039;re one of many who can&#039;t resist - I have a friend called Simon and we take great delight in signing off emails as SiX and FiX</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks BD. I tried every drink except that one&#8230;&#8230;..<br />
You&#8217;re one of many who can&#8217;t resist &#8211; I have a friend called Simon and we take great delight in signing off emails as SiX and FiX</p>
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		<title>By: tilsit</title>
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		<dc:creator>tilsit</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Monk has been doing pangrammatic (and double pangrammatics) in The Times and FT for years.

This really was poor fare, i&#039;m afraid.

For a very enjoyable challenge that will test you a little, try this....

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2009/11/17/gdn.cryptic.20091121.pdf

Today&#039;s Guardian puzzle by the venerable Araucaria, who, at the age of 88 still knocks most setters into a cocked hat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Monk has been doing pangrammatic (and double pangrammatics) in The Times and FT for years.</p>
<p>This really was poor fare, i&#8217;m afraid.</p>
<p>For a very enjoyable challenge that will test you a little, try this&#8230;.</p>
<p><a href="http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2009/11/17/gdn.cryptic.20091121.pdf" rel="nofollow">http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-files/Guardian/documents/2009/11/17/gdn.cryptic.20091121.pdf</a></p>
<p>Today&#8217;s Guardian puzzle by the venerable Araucaria, who, at the age of 88 still knocks most setters into a cocked hat.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dave</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8650</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:11:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fi (I couldn&#039;t resist that!)

24a Lied about drink I included producing wild excitement (8)
Easy when you know how - an anagram (about) of LIED is followed by an alcoholic drink (for sailors?) around I (I included) to give a word meaning wild excitement</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Fi (I couldn&#8217;t resist that!)</p>
<p>24a Lied about drink I included producing wild excitement (8)<br />
Easy when you know how &#8211; an anagram (about) of LIED is followed by an alcoholic drink (for sailors?) around I (I included) to give a word meaning wild excitement</p>
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		<title>By: Fi</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8649</link>
		<dc:creator>Fi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:02:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having been stuck at home for the last two days with a sick child I think I have become brain dead. I&#039;m struggling with 24a. Help!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having been stuck at home for the last two days with a sick child I think I have become brain dead. I&#8217;m struggling with 24a. Help!!!</p>
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		<title>By: vulpus_rex</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8648</link>
		<dc:creator>vulpus_rex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 18:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I enjoyed it - though this is usually a sign that I finished it without having to come here for &quot;assistance&quot;!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I enjoyed it &#8211; though this is usually a sign that I finished it without having to come here for &#8220;assistance&#8221;!</p>
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		<title>By: Little Dave</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8647</link>
		<dc:creator>Little Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:42:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Overall this week&#039;s selection has introuduced me to some new words which is great.  Favourite word of the week for me being &quot;lentigo&quot;.  It&#039;s also good to see how lively this debate has become.  By the way....my team won 4-1 so I am now going to celebrate with a nice glass of burgundy.  Lovely.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Overall this week&#8217;s selection has introuduced me to some new words which is great.  Favourite word of the week for me being &#8220;lentigo&#8221;.  It&#8217;s also good to see how lively this debate has become.  By the way&#8230;.my team won 4-1 so I am now going to celebrate with a nice glass of burgundy.  Lovely.</p>
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		<title>By: Big Dave</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8646</link>
		<dc:creator>Big Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:36:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome to the blog &lt;strong&gt;Little Imp&lt;/strong&gt;

Sory your comment took so long to authorise.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome to the blog <strong>Little Imp</strong></p>
<p>Sory your comment took so long to authorise.</p>
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		<title>By: kell</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8645</link>
		<dc:creator>kell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:16:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was staring blankly at 9A and then, realising there was one letter of the alphabet still to be accounted for, suddenly found the answer!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was staring blankly at 9A and then, realising there was one letter of the alphabet still to be accounted for, suddenly found the answer!</p>
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		<title>By: Libellule</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8644</link>
		<dc:creator>Libellule</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:40:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ditto for me too...</description>
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		<title>By: bobness</title>
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		<dc:creator>bobness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:26:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, I didn&#039;t think it was that bad, but I didn&#039;t have too many problems with it.
14A is my &quot;new word for the day&quot;.
I always think that the quality of a clue is mainly defined by how it reads &quot;stand alone&quot; and the lack of padding and &quot;obvious&quot; words/phrases, and to be fair, this wasn&#039;t a great one.
Nice to finish it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, I didn&#8217;t think it was that bad, but I didn&#8217;t have too many problems with it.<br />
14A is my &#8220;new word for the day&#8221;.<br />
I always think that the quality of a clue is mainly defined by how it reads &#8220;stand alone&#8221; and the lack of padding and &#8220;obvious&#8221; words/phrases, and to be fair, this wasn&#8217;t a great one.<br />
Nice to finish it though.</p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
		<link>http://bigdave44.com/2009/11/21/dt-26092-hints/#comment-8642</link>
		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I had noticed this ( I usually do) it would have increased my enjoyment, psychologically of course :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I had noticed this ( I usually do) it would have increased my enjoyment, psychologically of course <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mary</title>
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		<dc:creator>mary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Nov 2009 16:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry Toby you did get them the wrong way round :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry Toby you did get them the wrong way round <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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