ST 2506 – Hints

Sunday Telegraph Cryptic No 2506 – Hints

Hints and tips by Big Dave

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BD Rating – Difficulty *** Enjoyment ****

If you found last Sunday’s puzzle a bit on the tough side, then this one is a little easier.

Don’t forget that you can give your assessment of the puzzle. Five stars if you thought it was great, one if you hated it, four, three or two if it was somewhere in between.

As is usual for the weekend prize crosswords, I will select a few of the better clues and provide hints for them.

Peter Biddlecombe’s full review of this puzzle will be published at 12.00 on Friday, 23rd October.

Across

1a Live quartet heard previously (6)
Here a charade of a word meaning to live and a word that sounds like (heard) the number in a quartet gives a synonym for previously

4a Scion not on hunting expedition (8)
Chambers defines a scion as a detached piece of a plant capable of propagating, especially by grafting; another charade builds this word from “not on” and “hunting expedition”

11a China correspondent? (9)
This must be a cryptic definition , it can’t be a charade as the words are in the wrong order, which is a pity because it is very nearly an all-in-one clue – china is Cockney rhyming slang (china plate = mate) so you are looking for a mate with whom you might correspond

24a Open to investigation likely to include drug (9)
A word meaning open to investigation is constructed by putting a word meaning likely around a drug taken for its stimulant and hallucinogenic properties

Down

1d Luggage – altogether, nine of fifteen (8)
An item of luggage that is used by round-the-world travellers is over-cryptically defined as one of the players behind the scrum followed by the scrum itself, a total of nine players out of the fifteen in a Rugby Union team

3d Old dog moving right to top gets award in show (7)
First combine O(ld) and a type of dog, then move the R(ight) from the bottom to the top (as this is a down clue) and you get an award given in a show to a vegetable, a horse or even a dog!

7d Honours bestowed on European with big corporation (5)
Corporation here is an anatomical reference to the stomach

8d People from house demolished in Stroud (6)
These people include Henry VIII, and are derived from an anagram (demolished) of STROUD – the “in” is padding introduced to improve the surface reading

16d Frantically clear top of chest (8)
Another anatomical reference, this time to the chest!

20d Author seizing power in university position (6)
Put this French author, philosopher, and journalist around P(ower) to get a position in the ground of a university

This one was host to the Times Crossword Championships last weekend:

!f you need further help then please ask and I will see what I can do.

Please don’t put whole or partial answers in your comment, else they may be censored!


12 Comments

  1. Greenhorn
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 1:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Solver all by 11a & 8d without aids or recourse to hints.
    11a Never thought of china =mate.
    8d The extraneous in threw me when I was looking for an anagram.
    Must be 2 star if I can get this far!

    • Posted October 18, 2009 at 1:39 pm | Permalink | Reply

      Greenhorn

      I try to make the star ratings for difficulty reflect the time taken for the whole puzzle!

  2. sarumite
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 1:55 pm | Permalink | Reply

    The first time I’ve bothered with Sun Tel Cryptic for some months, as many of the clues in the previous format were (in my view) imprecise and/or incomplete.

    This was much improved, in line with “standard practice.”

    1d confused me initially, I had the answer, but thought it should read nine “to” fifteen, but all is now clear! :smile:

  3. Prolixic
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 2:12 pm | Permalink | Reply

    This was a lot easier than last week’s Sunday puzzle. Like Greenhorn, if found the extra “in” in 8d misleading. For 11a, I thought that the answer would more usually clued as (3,6) or (3-6) not as one continuous word.

    I enjoyed the puzzle. My favourite clues were 4a and 14a.

    • Posted October 18, 2009 at 8:05 pm | Permalink | Reply

      I didn’t notice at the time but yes, it should be (3,6).

  4. Nubian
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 2:32 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Do you think it is time for Cockney rhyming slang in the ‘Mine’ Big Dave ?

  5. Kaye
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 4:01 pm | Permalink | Reply

    I completed it ,but can’t think why 26a is what it is? Can you enlighten please? Could have got it wrong of course……

    • Prolixic
      Posted October 18, 2009 at 4:08 pm | Permalink | Reply

      The main definition is swaggered along. The other part of the definition gives you an oblique description of what an object would be if it were supported by one or more of the first five letters of the answer.

  6. Kaye
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 4:34 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Thank you Prolixic, I got confused as to why ‘members’ was included. Couldn’t see the relevance. Anyway think all ok with the result.

  7. Lea
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 4:55 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Did this in quicker time than last week but didn’t enjoy it as much. In particular I didn’t like 24a – what a horrible word. I know it’s in the dictionary but …..

    I think my choice is 12a for clue of the day. Didn’t rate it as highly as others have – sorry.

  8. nanaglugglug
    Posted October 18, 2009 at 7:26 pm | Permalink | Reply

    Loved 1d – agree with Prolixic on 11a – surely not one word? Good end to the day.

  9. Franny
    Posted October 19, 2009 at 8:27 am | Permalink | Reply

    I had a good time with this puzzle and finished it without too much trouble. I agree that 11a should have been two words, and think it a great idea to put rhyming slang into The Mine — perhaps also terms from cricket, football and golf — that would have helped me with 1d. My favourite clues were 3d and 14a.

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